[thesite] Re: Read the article, and a usability issue with the site
aardvark
roselli at earthlink.net
Thu Mar 1 20:38:04 CST 2001
Ben, I hope you don't mind, but I'm bringing this over to thesite (the
list devoted to discussions of, well, the site) so that some others
can have some input. I think your points are good points, and I'd
rather not make unilateral assertions without letting other people
take a whack at my logic.
> > Yeah, we use 'accesskey' attributes on the form elements to meet WAI
> > and Bobby accessbility standards.
>
> After a few minutes' thought this occurred to me. It's fantastic
> thing to do in principle, and I support it enthusiastically.
Good. Dammit.
> I just question the wisdom of assimilating a macro that's already set
> aside for a function available to at least two-thirds of the site's
> users, since the same alt-key-combo is used in IE4 as well. And those
> with impaired mobiilty will definitely use the macro in question (as I
> know firsthand, having discussed the subject some time back with a
> quadriplegic who used to - and may still - maintain a Geocities page).
>
> I personally am not impaired - I just like to keep both hands on the
> keyboard unless I'm just-browsing, and even then I often use the
> keyboard to navigate.
Agreed. While my own testing with impaired users hasn't shown
this, that suggests I need to do more testing. One thing we might
want to consider is gathering the alt-key combos from the major
browsers and making those off-limits.
But that begs the question, what if we run out of letters? Do we
dump the accesskey attributes? And who can we blame for this,
browsers or us? I need blame to made.
> > Unfortunately, we can't account for the how the browsers handle it,
> > and we also can't account for every letter in the alphabet
> > considering all the browsers out there.
>
> I suppose not, but one would think on the grounds of common sense that
> the Alt-key macros for NN & IE menu items would be used cautiously.
Agreed, but that's the thing about common sense, it's an
oxymoron. Either way, yes, I did consider that, but clearly my
decision was based on my own perceptions.
So, is it better to kill the accesskeys or force users to use the
mouse? I don't know that answer...
> > We discussed this one for a while, and figured we'd try it. You're
> > the first to specifically comment.
>
> ...Which bothers me, but that's another thought for another time.
That you're the first to comment on it?
Anyway, verboten letters from the windows browsers i use regularly:
IE5: f, e, v, a, t, h
N6: f, e, v, s, g, b, t, h
N3: f, e, v, g, b, o, d, w, h
O5: f, e, v, n, b, m, g, s, w, n
Any others?
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