> http://members.evolt.org/elfur/evolt/themes/index.html very nice collection " showing my (misfotunate) creative side " huh? misfotunate? nothing wrong with your creativity, young lady also, regarding the classic look, i'm afraid i didn't really have any input on it other than maybe to mention that i really liked the old look -- david took it from there and did the work, and now you... rudy