.jeff wrote: >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< >>why not just send me a note, "Dan, heres what could be >>done better"? >><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< >> > > precedent. we've never really done it that way. practically since the > beginning i've gone in and made performance enhancements where i've seen the > need. why should i do it any different now? because the more you do this 'behind the scenes updates/whatever', the less other people trying to work on this site understand how things work. a couple weeks ago we were talking about who would be comfortable working on the CF code for evolt. i'm not anymore because of the behind the scenes stuff you're doing and not telling anyone about or documenting anywhere but your own head. > to me though, didn't you already thank me for stepping in and working on it? > > http://lists.evolt.org/thesitearchive/2001-November/1564130.html yes, i thanked you for finishing it up? does that make it ok that you pretty much changed the way i wrote it? i didnt even know it was done because you ddint say anything. my thanks was for what i thought was finishing my code. *not* for changing it and then not checking to see it worked 100% > it's like anything, we need to test to find bugs. i can't be expected to > find *every* possible one. that's why we have a staging site to begin with. fuck *that*. if you're in there changing code, you can at least do minor bug testing, like logging out and back in. this isn't the 'jeff writes code and everyone else does QA' show. > if you find something, know what the problem is, and have time to fix it > then take care of it yourself. if not, send a notice to me via thesite list > and i'll address it if i have time. however, *don't* complain because i try > to help. that's not too much to ask is it? ya, it is. i'm not the bad guy here because i'm complaining about you making changes to what i did without telling anyone. i'm *not* complaining about you trying to help, so don't spin it that way. seriously, if you can't be bothered to simply let people who are also trying to work with you on this know what you're doing, don't bother working on it at all. > i don't want to upset anybody by reporting back that i fixed some code i > thought was causing performance issues, could be written smoother, was just > straight up sloppy, or whatever. however, my urge to make the site perform > to its maximum outweighs this. it's not like i'm trying to hide anything. > if anybody asks, i'm more than happy to talk about changes. i'm just not > going to make it a point to go into detail about every little nuance that > was altered. common, we're all big kids here... no one has a problem with hearing better ways to do things or your urge to make things better. people(myself being #1 probably and most vocal) have a problem with you changing code they may have written and not telling them about it. thats the problem. .djc.