At 01:22 PM 10/04/2001, rudy wrote: >i'll be around on the irc channel, though.... What irc channel? I'll wave from California. Warmly, Shirley -- Shirley E. Kaiser, M.A. SKDesigns mailto:skaiser1 at skdesigns.com Website Development http://www.skdesigns.com/ Pianist, Composer http://www.shirleykaiser.com/ Moderator, I-Design http://www.adventive.com/lists/idesign/summary.html