From roselli at earthlink.net Sun Apr 6 15:05:13 2003 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 16:05:13 -0400 Subject: [thesite] held messages and list admin Message-ID: <3E905039.28655.7ADE0C46@localhost> sorry folks, it turns out that all the moderation of *all* the lists seems to be solely in my hands... i must have not read Dean's email closely enough... as a result, i just wandered through *all* the lists and cleaned up held messages... so you may see some old posts come through on those lists... given that i have less time lately to handle lists (especially all of them now) and can hardly touch them during the business day, please be patient if you send something and it gets held... my former <5min turn-around time is gone and won't be back anytime soon... otoh, if anyone from each list wants to step up and be the admin, email me, and i'll send you the access info and set you up... it's not hard... reject a few spam posts every day, occassionally let a valid post through... so, three hours of my day gone and i *still* have to get to the office... ugh... -- my latest book project: Web Graphics for Non-Designers http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151159/evoltorg02-20 ISBN: 1904151159 From roselli at earthlink.net Sun Apr 6 15:05:13 2003 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 16:05:13 -0400 Subject: [thesite] [totc] held messages and list admin Message-ID: <3E905039.28655.7ADE0C46@localhost> sorry folks, it turns out that all the moderation of *all* the lists seems to be solely in my hands... i must have not read Dean's email closely enough... as a result, i just wandered through *all* the lists and cleaned up held messages... so you may see some old posts come through on those lists... given that i have less time lately to handle lists (especially all of them now) and can hardly touch them during the business day, please be patient if you send something and it gets held... my former <5min turn-around time is gone and won't be back anytime soon... otoh, if anyone from each list wants to step up and be the admin, email me, and i'll send you the access info and set you up... it's not hard... reject a few spam posts every day, occassionally let a valid post through... so, three hours of my day gone and i *still* have to get to the office... ugh... -- my latest book project: Web Graphics for Non-Designers http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151159/evoltorg02-20 ISBN: 1904151159 _______________________________________________ it's uh-volt BTW From roselli at earthlink.net Sun Apr 6 15:05:13 2003 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 16:05:13 -0400 Subject: [thesite] [totc] held messages and list admin Message-ID: <3E905039.28655.7ADE0C46@localhost> sorry folks, it turns out that all the moderation of *all* the lists seems to be solely in my hands... i must have not read Dean's email closely enough... as a result, i just wandered through *all* the lists and cleaned up held messages... so you may see some old posts come through on those lists... given that i have less time lately to handle lists (especially all of them now) and can hardly touch them during the business day, please be patient if you send something and it gets held... my former <5min turn-around time is gone and won't be back anytime soon... otoh, if anyone from each list wants to step up and be the admin, email me, and i'll send you the access info and set you up... it's not hard... reject a few spam posts every day, occassionally let a valid post through... so, three hours of my day gone and i *still* have to get to the office... ugh... -- my latest book project: Web Graphics for Non-Designers http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151159/evoltorg02-20 ISBN: 1904151159 _______________________________________________ it's uh-volt BTW From roselli at earthlink.net Sun Apr 6 15:05:13 2003 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 16:05:13 -0400 Subject: [thesite] [Content] held messages and list admin Message-ID: <3E905039.28655.7ADE0C46@localhost> sorry folks, it turns out that all the moderation of *all* the lists seems to be solely in my hands... i must have not read Dean's email closely enough... as a result, i just wandered through *all* the lists and cleaned up held messages... so you may see some old posts come through on those lists... given that i have less time lately to handle lists (especially all of them now) and can hardly touch them during the business day, please be patient if you send something and it gets held... my former <5min turn-around time is gone and won't be back anytime soon... otoh, if anyone from each list wants to step up and be the admin, email me, and i'll send you the access info and set you up... it's not hard... reject a few spam posts every day, occassionally let a valid post through... so, three hours of my day gone and i *still* have to get to the office... ugh... -- my latest book project: Web Graphics for Non-Designers http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151159/evoltorg02-20 ISBN: 1904151159 _______________________________________________ Content mailing list Content at lists.evolt.org http://lists.evolt.org/mailman/listinfo/content http://lists.evolt.org/htdig/search.html From roselli at earthlink.net Sun Apr 6 15:05:13 2003 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 16:05:13 -0400 Subject: [thesite] [Content] held messages and list admin Message-ID: <3E905039.28655.7ADE0C46@localhost> sorry folks, it turns out that all the moderation of *all* the lists seems to be solely in my hands... i must have not read Dean's email closely enough... as a result, i just wandered through *all* the lists and cleaned up held messages... so you may see some old posts come through on those lists... given that i have less time lately to handle lists (especially all of them now) and can hardly touch them during the business day, please be patient if you send something and it gets held... my former <5min turn-around time is gone and won't be back anytime soon... otoh, if anyone from each list wants to step up and be the admin, email me, and i'll send you the access info and set you up... it's not hard... reject a few spam posts every day, occassionally let a valid post through... so, three hours of my day gone and i *still* have to get to the office... ugh... -- my latest book project: Web Graphics for Non-Designers http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151159/evoltorg02-20 ISBN: 1904151159 _______________________________________________ Content mailing list Content at lists.evolt.org http://lists.evolt.org/mailman/listinfo/content http://lists.evolt.org/htdig/search.html From lists at mantruc.com Wed Apr 16 09:29:13 2003 From: lists at mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 10:29:13 -0400 Subject: [thesite] thelist guidelines down? Message-ID: <3E9D68B9.8060504@mantruc.com> I can't get to thelist's guidelines page thanks javier From r937 at interlog.com Wed Apr 16 10:04:45 2003 From: r937 at interlog.com (rudy) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:04:45 -0400 Subject: [thesite] thelist guidelines down? References: <3E9D68B9.8060504@mantruc.com> Message-ID: <046201c30429$85d16a10$0cb96618@r9373j4yqbe8dy> > I can't get to thelist's guidelines page works for me http://lists.evolt.org/index.php?content=listinfo rudy From lists at mantruc.com Wed Apr 16 11:09:47 2003 From: lists at mantruc.com (javier velasco) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 12:09:47 -0400 Subject: [thesite] thelist guidelines down? In-Reply-To: <046201c30429$85d16a10$0cb96618@r9373j4yqbe8dy> References: <3E9D68B9.8060504@mantruc.com> <046201c30429$85d16a10$0cb96618@r9373j4yqbe8dy> Message-ID: <3E9D804B.7090901@mantruc.com> rudy wrote: >>I can't get to thelist's guidelines page > > > works for me > > http://lists.evolt.org/index.php?content=listinfo I do reach a page, but it's the leo home, the one I wanted is the one that had this content: 1.1 General information The list is intended for professional Web workers: designers, webmasters, programmers, what have you. Anything that relates to Web development is up for discussion. The list is unmoderated (though monitored), and is maintained and supported by volunteers. Individuals who post to the list hold the copyright to their own posts. 1.2 Discussion list guidelines 1. Respect each other. Diversity in Web development is not only tolerated but encouraged. Argument and debate are fine. Character digs and personal attacks are not. You are responsible for what you write. Those who cannot be civil will be removed from the list of subscribers and will not be permitted to return. 2. Limited off-topic posts are fine; however they must be labelled [OT] in the subject line. Also, we ask that you "pay" for off-topic posts by including a Web tip that you find useful. Example: Include META tags in all of your pages for better search engine placement. Please stay consistent with the tags, so that our Tip Harvester can extract them for the archive. If you want to be extra helpful, your opening tag could be formatted: Include META tags in all of your pages for better search engine placement. 3. To the best of your ability, keep posts short. 4. Keep your subject lines specific, as many people decide what posts to read from the subject line. "Help!," "What am I doing wrong?," and "Arrraugh" are not acceptable subject lines. If an ongoing discussion drifts from the initial subject, please change the subject line to reflect the new subject. For example, "e-commerce solutions" becomes "problem clients (was: e-commerce solutions)." 5. When responding to a post, delete all information that is not strictly necessary. This includes the evolt.org tag line and .sig files. Delete anything you're not specifically responding to. 6. When responding to a post, please make it clear who you're responding to. Not everyone is going to remember who the original sender was. 7. Don't post urban legends, virus alerts or humorous forwards. Please. 8. Don't post copyrighted material. If you think an article would be helpful to others on the list, provide a link. 9. You must ask permission if you want to forward or otherwise reproduce a post from a member of the list. From cparker at swatgear.com Wed Apr 23 18:50:15 2003 From: cparker at swatgear.com (Chris W. Parker) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:50:15 -0700 Subject: [thesite] FW: failure notice Message-ID: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE2B7A5F@ati-ex-01.ati.local> If someone on the admin team could take a look at this and help me out I would appreciate it. (Please also take note of the content of the email I was trying to send.) chris. MAILER-DAEMON at acornparenting.org <> wrote: > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at acornparenting.org. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't > work out. > > : > Unable to chdir to maildir. (#4.2.1) > I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too > long. > > --- Below this line is a copy of the message. > > Return-Path: > Received: (qmail 24465 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2003 21:13:25 > -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO swatgear.com) (67.17.248.230) > by 0 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2003 21:13:25 -0000 > content-class: urn:content-classes:message > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Subject: Email not getting to thelist > Disposition-Notification-To: "Chris W. Parker" > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:13:23 -0700 > Message-ID: > <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE14E5EC at ati-ex-01.ati.local> > X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > Thread-Topic: Email not getting to thelist > Thread-Index: AcMEXQN5I+Nsi1y4SB2MuFWX0qT6Xg== > From: "Chris W. Parker" > To: > > Hello. > > After the odd DNS change from lists.evolt.org to lists.evolt.org.uk > (and = back again) I have not been able to send emails to thelist. > Actually = that's not totally true, it seems like 90% of my emails do > not go = through. I don't get any undeliverable reports or anything. > My email = just goes off into nowhere land. > > What gives? > > > Thanks, > Chris. From dmah at shaw.ca Wed Apr 23 20:12:52 2003 From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 19:12:52 -0600 Subject: [thesite] FW: failure notice In-Reply-To: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE2B7A5F@ati-ex-01.ati.local> References: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE2B7A5F@ati-ex-01.ati.local> Message-ID: <20030424011252.GA5517@alice.cg.shawcable.net> The admin list has been discontinued. List management and Web site management issues should be sent to content at lists.evolt.org. What are you seeing as the mail exchanger? dig lists.evolt.org mx Dean On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 04:50:15PM -0700, Chris W. Parker wrote: > If someone on the admin team could take a look at this and help me out I would appreciate it. (Please also take note of the content of the email I was trying to send.) > > > chris. > > > MAILER-DAEMON at acornparenting.org <> wrote: > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at acornparenting.org. > > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > > addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't > > work out. > > > > : > > Unable to chdir to maildir. (#4.2.1) > > I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too > > long. > > > > --- Below this line is a copy of the message. > > > > Return-Path: > > Received: (qmail 24465 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2003 21:13:25 > > -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO swatgear.com) (67.17.248.230) > > by 0 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2003 21:13:25 -0000 > > content-class: urn:content-classes:message > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Subject: Email not getting to thelist > > Disposition-Notification-To: "Chris W. Parker" > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 > > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:13:23 -0700 > > Message-ID: > > <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE14E5EC at ati-ex-01.ati.local> > > X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > > Thread-Topic: Email not getting to thelist > > Thread-Index: AcMEXQN5I+Nsi1y4SB2MuFWX0qT6Xg== > > From: "Chris W. Parker" > > To: > > > > Hello. > > > > After the odd DNS change from lists.evolt.org to lists.evolt.org.uk > > (and = back again) I have not been able to send emails to thelist. > > Actually = that's not totally true, it seems like 90% of my emails do > > not go = through. I don't get any undeliverable reports or anything. > > My email = just goes off into nowhere land. > > > > What gives? > > > > > > Thanks, > > Chris. From cparker at swatgear.com Thu Apr 24 10:53:32 2003 From: cparker at swatgear.com (Chris W. Parker) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 08:53:32 -0700 Subject: [thesite] FW: failure notice Message-ID: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE2B7A60@ati-ex-01.ati.local> Dean Mah wrote: > The admin list has been discontinued. List management and Web site > management issues should be sent to content at lists.evolt.org. ok. > What are you seeing as the mail exchanger? > > dig lists.evolt.org mx ;; ANSWER SECTION: lists.evolt.org. 120 IN MX 20 lists.evolt.org. lists.evolt.org. 120 IN MX 10 lists.evolt.org. ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: evolt.org. 86400 IN NS ns1.everydns.net. evolt.org. 86400 IN NS ns2.everydns.net. evolt.org. 86400 IN NS ns3.everydns.net. evolt.org. 86400 IN NS ns4.everydns.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: lists.evolt.org. 120 IN A 216.40.227.23 ns1.everydns.net. 155440 IN A 209.75.39.141 ns2.everydns.net. 155440 IN A 216.218.240.206 ns3.everydns.net. 155440 IN A 81.17.40.70 ns4.everydns.net. 155440 IN A 63.219.183.200 thanks, chris. From dmah at shaw.ca Thu Apr 24 15:00:06 2003 From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 14:00:06 -0600 Subject: [thesite] FW: failure notice In-Reply-To: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE2B7A60@ati-ex-01.ati.local> References: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE2B7A60@ati-ex-01.ati.local> Message-ID: <20030424200006.GA3816@alice.cg.shawcable.net> On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 08:53:32AM -0700, Chris W. Parker wrote: > > What are you seeing as the mail exchanger? > > > > dig lists.evolt.org mx > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > lists.evolt.org. 120 IN MX 20 lists.evolt.org. > lists.evolt.org. 120 IN MX 10 lists.evolt.org. > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > evolt.org. 86400 IN NS ns1.everydns.net. > evolt.org. 86400 IN NS ns2.everydns.net. > evolt.org. 86400 IN NS ns3.everydns.net. > evolt.org. 86400 IN NS ns4.everydns.net. > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: > lists.evolt.org. 120 IN A 216.40.227.23 > ns1.everydns.net. 155440 IN A 209.75.39.141 > ns2.everydns.net. 155440 IN A 216.218.240.206 > ns3.everydns.net. 155440 IN A 81.17.40.70 > ns4.everydns.net. 155440 IN A 63.219.183.200 All of that looks fine. When you do notice a 'failure' try to ensure that the IP address for lists.evolt.org is correct. You may also want to try e-mailing here or to me directly and I can check the logs to see if your message appears or if there are any errors. Also, ensure that you are mailing to thelist at lists.evolt.org and not something like thelist at evolt.org. Dean