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Message-ID: Opencube offers a Perl script at http://www.opencube.com/ that does what you describe (look at the left side navigation.) It's flaky in Netscape and broke in Opera from what I can tell, but it might help. Steve Clason > -----Original Message----- > From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org > [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Jeff Lucido > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 4:02 PM > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Subject: [thelist] DHTML expanding lists > > > Evolters: > > I have been banging my head around here for a few days working on what I > thought was a simple implementation of an expanding DHTML listing. > Specifically, the project I am working on requires a listing of data > with one level of data underneath. For example: > > LINK 1 > LINK 2 > LINK 3 > link 3.1 > link 3.2 > link 3.3 > LINK 4 > link 4.1 > link 4.2 > link 4.3 > LINK5 > LINK 6 > > The tricky part is this listing of data is contained within a table and > varies in vertical position based on the information needed for the page > (i.e. the number of elements above link 3 will vary from page to page). > Secondly, links 1,2,5,6 are not part of the expanding list, rather they > are regular links to other pages. So, basically if the visitor clicks on > link 3 the below main links (4,5,6) would move down accordingly based on > the amount of links contained under link 3, with the same being true for > link 4. The visitor would then see the exposed sub-links of 3.1,3.2,3.3. > I have tried several scripts form a few places (DHTMLCentral, > DynamicDrive, etc.) but they are all called using absolute positions and > require the setting of a container height for the possible amount of > space needed to display the items. > > I hope I am making some sense here. All I really need it to do is when a > visitor clicks on a link which contains sub-links the main links below > it move down to accommodate the listing of sub-links. Also, when a > visitor "opens" a link (in the case number 3) and then opens another > link containing sub-links (in the case link 4) then the previously > opened one closes and the newly requested one opens. Nothing too hard, > right? Also, I do not care about persistence across clicks so when the > visitor returns to the page the proper link is still "open." > > If any kind soul out there has run into this and can lend some support > in any form I would be greatly appreciative. > > Thanks for the help! > -JSLucido > -- > For unsubscribe and other options, including > the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! > > From burhankhalid at members.evolt.org Mon Sep 2 19:58:01 2002 From: burhankhalid at members.evolt.org (Burhan) Date: Mon Sep 2 19:58:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Event Registration System Message-ID: <354863629.20020902200136@members.evolt.org> Hello thelist, I have been searching for a couple of days now, but can't seem to find something like this, and I know that I am not the first person to find a need for this. What I need is a system (language is really not an issue yet) where the administrator can schedule events, and then users can register to attend these events. Basically, a calendar event registration system with user registration. I have found tons of stuff where the administrator adds events, and then the users can view them. What I need is for the users to be able to sign-up/register to attend the event. This is going to be for a tutoring scheduling app that I am trying to put together (this is one part, the rest of the app I am working on). Also, I need to be able to print/view the list of people that have signed up to attend an event (or if there are no people signed up for a certain event). Any links would be appreciated. -- *---------------* | Burhan Khalid | *---------------*---------------------------* | Email : burhankhalid[at]members.evolt.org | | Web : members.evolt.org/burhankhalid | | ICQ : 6016166 | | AIM : digitz0819 | | MSN : burhankh[at]hotmail.com | | Yahoo : burhan_khalid | *-------------------------------------------* From david at gigawatt.com Mon Sep 2 20:13:01 2002 From: david at gigawatt.com (David Kaufman) Date: Mon Sep 2 20:13:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] DHTML expanding lists References: Message-ID: <001d01c252e7$02b2f200$0100a8c0@snowwhite> Jeff Lucido wrote: > > I have been banging my head around here for a few days working on > what I thought was a simple implementation of an expanding DHTML > listing. Specifically, the project I am working on requires a listing > of data with one level of data underneath. [snip] > > If any kind soul out there has run into this and can lend some support > in any form I would be greatly appreciative. here's some open-source dhtml code that works on IE5+ and Mozilla, and degrades well on NS4 (degrades=list is always completely expanded): http://youngpup.net/?request=/components/ypXmlTree.xml hth, -dave From ken.kogler at curf.edu Mon Sep 2 20:22:01 2002 From: ken.kogler at curf.edu (Ken Kogler) Date: Mon Sep 2 20:22:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() In-Reply-To: <01c252d1$e99fc640$d05c1dd1@rudy> Message-ID: <000201c252e8$240ae7e0$0808810a@eagle5> >>I want to return any sign where the search term is in the sign's title, >>or in the category of the sign. >yes, but that's what i meant -- if the search term is found in the >category, then you're saying you want all the signs in that >category returned... Yes. Strange, but my well-informed client wants it that way. My problem is that if a search term is present in the sign's title and in one of the sign's categories, then that sign comes back TWICE in the search results. That's what I'm trying to avoid... --Ken From lesliezhou at netscape.net Mon Sep 2 20:35:01 2002 From: lesliezhou at netscape.net (Leslie Zhou) Date: Mon Sep 2 20:35:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Re: CSS Positioning Question Message-ID: <3D741192.7010708@netscape.net> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi, Embedding within

won't work well to meet your need. Try the following: ... ... ...

Align to the right

... Thanks, Leslie >Hello List, > >I've got a CSS position question. I've got an

tag, and in that >tag, I want to align some text to the right. I first thought a span >would to the trick : > >.rightalign { float:right; text-align:right; } > >It aligns it to the right, but it bumps the text down (have a look at >my website for what I mean). The [ + ] | [ - ] text is in the >tag. > >I am trying to get it to align with the
text. > >Any ideas? > > > >-- > > Set its display style to none in a class for it: .myTextArea { display: none; } HTH Tom From wkolean at hotmail.com Mon Sep 2 20:57:01 2002 From: wkolean at hotmail.com (William Kolean) Date: Mon Sep 2 20:57:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Re: IE5Mac horizontal scrollbar bug solved In-Reply-To: <20020901170210.10201BFD9@relay.evolt.org> Message-ID: I noticed that 15 pixels is the exact width of the scrollbar, and in your example you don't get the scrollbar as long as you stay to the edge of where the scrollbar would be, if it were there. So does Mac IE5 give all absolutely positioned elements a secret margin of 15px, or just the ones that intrude in the scrollbar area? William > My current theory is that IE5Mac gives each absolutely positioned element a > secret margin of 15 pixels. My solution, based on this theory, works in two > simple test cases. It also doesn't bother the other browsers. > > See http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/js/ie5mac/margin.html for the full story and > the solution. From luminosity at members.evolt.org Mon Sep 2 22:03:01 2002 From: luminosity at members.evolt.org (Lachlan Cannon) Date: Mon Sep 2 22:03:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Address Book Markup Language - Address Books written in XML References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020901140018.01b39b40@mail.incutio.com> Message-ID: <3D742555.5070407@members.evolt.org> Simon Willison wrote: > Looks like an interesting project. Here are a few thoughts: > > 1. How about allowing multiple comments for each contact? "comments" > instead of "comments?" Can you give me an example of when you wouldn't want to put all your comments under the one tag? > 2. You use a huge amount of elements with #PCDATA which could be replaced > with attributes. Remember, many XML parsers handle attributes faster than > #PCDATA so using them can give a good overall performance gain. For > example, birthdate(month, date, year) could be better handled with: > > > > > month CDATA #REQUIRED > day CDATA #REQUIRED > year CDATA #REQUIRED > > > > Alternatively you could have the month/day/year attributes as part of the > birthdate/anniversary elements themselves - I'm not sure what is considered > best practise for that kind of thing. Hmm... to make it easier, I've changed it to multiple date elements coming from the dates element, each with those three attributes, and a type attribute to define what type of date it is. I think that works around that problem well enough, and it makes it more easily extensible for other types of dates. > 3. businesses could do with having optional addresses information I've put down a single optional address element in businesses. My original thinking was that this would be covered by the work address element, but I realised that you might need to have the companies head office as well. I don't think that other addresses for the company would be relevant though, since they wouldn't affect the person which the address book listing is about. Thoughts? Thanks, -- Lach Web: http://illuminosity.net/ E-mail: lach @ illuminosity.net MSN: luminosity @ members.evolt.org From falieson at faliesonsworld.com Mon Sep 2 22:09:01 2002 From: falieson at faliesonsworld.com (Falieson Prince) Date: Mon Sep 2 22:09:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Embeddng html within Flash(6) Message-ID: <000801c252f6$f6c8ea70$52608cac@your9id4oqkvbf> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am working on creating a new version of a website for myself... yet i am having some troubles with a certain idea of mine. I want to have my flash over my website, as you would a template a piece of paper. I would like to have my website be a layer in my flash site... (http://lan.faliesonsworld.com/beta/site.html) the black area inside the flash is where my website would be. clicking on a link to the left would just be like clicking the link in a frame.. and would just change the website in that area... not forwarding teh webclient to another site, but my whole website running in that one place. I do not understand how to do this. I dont know if its even possible.Yet my friend said that you where the people to come to for this, so here I am. \=) -this is purely beta form.. it looks bad right now.. really bad.. its gonna have a lot of touch ups, just want to get the above working first. --- Thanks very much, Falieson ( forum.faliesonsworld.com -make your self heard!) -- From Dave.Naden at sas.com Mon Sep 2 22:13:01 2002 From: Dave.Naden at sas.com (Dave Naden) Date: Mon Sep 2 22:13:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Netscape 6/7- trouble with style.display= changing the layout! Message-ID: <590086B5F26F294298B8C8C5C43619440C9E98@merc16.na.sas.com> Dear list, I'm at a loss with this problem--when I run the enclosed code, by assigning style.display- "block", my alignment is thrown off; extra space is added between each row. When the page first loads, it's fine. This works fine in IE 5 or 6, but Netscape 6 doesn't render it correctly. Please help! Is there a workaround? -Dave Naden dave.naden at sas.com Code follows: Test Page to find out why NN6 is not rendering this thing right!
First table

Second table

Third table

From r937 at interlog.com Mon Sep 2 22:28:00 2002 From: r937 at interlog.com (rudy) Date: Mon Sep 2 22:28:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() Message-ID: <01c252f9$deb16fe0$09e9059a@rudy> >>yes, but that's what i meant -- if the search term is found in the >>category, then you're saying you want all the signs in that >>category returned... > >Yes. Strange, but my well-informed client wants it that way. okay, try this -- select sID, sNumber, sTitle, sOshaAnsi, aApp from xrefAppsSigns inner join tblSigns on aNumber = sNumber where aApp LIKE '% s %' union select sID, sNumber, sTitle, sOshaAnsi, aApp from tblSigns where sTitle LIKE '% s %' the first select finds all categories that meet the search criteria, and pulls out all their signs the second select finds all signs that meet the search criteria UNION -- without the ALL -- takes care of removing duplicates did you want those spaces in the search strings? because that will not find the s if it's at the beginning or end of the field rudy From r937 at interlog.com Mon Sep 2 22:34:00 2002 From: r937 at interlog.com (rudy) Date: Mon Sep 2 22:34:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() Message-ID: <01c252fa$b82c2e40$09e9059a@rudy> oops, didn't notice the aApp in the select list, the second select has to have a join as well select sID, sNumber, sTitle, sOshaAnsi, aApp from xrefAppsSigns inner join tblSigns on aNumber = sNumber where aApp LIKE '% s %' union select sID, sNumber, sTitle, sOshaAnsi, aApp from tblSigns inner join xrefAppsSigns on sNumber = aNumber where sTitle LIKE '% s %' rudy From ken.kogler at curf.edu Mon Sep 2 22:42:01 2002 From: ken.kogler at curf.edu (Ken Kogler) Date: Mon Sep 2 22:42:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() In-Reply-To: <01c252f9$deb16fe0$09e9059a@rudy> Message-ID: <000501c252fb$baab69a0$0808810a@eagle5> > okay, try this -- [snip] SQL looks like a work of art, Rudy, but it appears as if Access doesn't support the join... Is there another way to do it? In my original post, I had something to the effect of: select from tblOne, tblTwo ...which is how Access handles joins (I think). > did you want those spaces in the search strings? Yup... It's actually supposed to read: ...LIKE '%" & s & "%'... Which is the ASP way to pop a value in between the '% and the %'. From r937 at interlog.com Mon Sep 2 23:10:01 2002 From: r937 at interlog.com (rudy) Date: Mon Sep 2 23:10:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() Message-ID: <01c252ff$b4b20960$09e9059a@rudy> > SQL looks like a work of art, Rudy, you are too kind > but it appears as if Access doesn't support the join... > Is there another way to do it? whoa, it works in access 97, i use it all the time -- that's the new-fangled inner join syntax okay, try the old way, it should still work (although i did see something about microsoft eventually not supporting it, but maybe that was sql/server...) select sID, sNumber, sTitle, sOshaAnsi, aApp from xrefAppsSigns , tblSigns where aNumber = sNumber and aApp LIKE '%s%' union select sID, sNumber, sTitle, sOshaAnsi, aApp from tblSigns , xrefAppsSigns where sNumber = aNumber and sTitle LIKE '%s%' >> did you want those spaces in the search strings? > >Yup... It's actually supposed to read: > > ...LIKE '%" & s & "%'... ah, okay, then the spaces aren't actually part of the string (see revised query) rudy From ken.kogler at curf.edu Mon Sep 2 23:28:01 2002 From: ken.kogler at curf.edu (Ken Kogler) Date: Mon Sep 2 23:28:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() In-Reply-To: <01c252ff$b4b20960$09e9059a@rudy> Message-ID: <000601c25302$24d05bf0$0808810a@eagle5> Well, that worked, but I'm facing the same problem. Perhaps some resultant data would help... This is 3 rows from the recordset (using the SQL from your last post, Rudy): sID | sNumber | sTitle | sOshaAnsi | aApp ------ | ------- | ---------------------- | --------- | ---------- 010017 | D1024 | DANGER- do not oper... | OSHA | Electrical 010027 | ZD1050 | DANGER- electrical... | ANSI Z535 | Electrical 010027 | ZD1050 | DANGER- electrical... | ANSI Z535 | Laser Note that the 2nd and 3rd rows are the same sign. Row #2 matches the search string ("electrical") in both the title and the app (also called "category"). Row #3 is returned because the search string is in the title but not the category. It seems like I should do "...WHERE sNumber != sNumber" but I know that's not right (since it blows up on me :) It's a one-to-many relationship between signs and categories, so this xrefAppsSigns table has multiple rows for each sign; the exact number depends on how many categories each sign belongs to. How can I prevent sign number "ZD1050" from being returned as rows 2 AND 3? I'm desprately trying to do this via SQL. The only alternative I can see is looping through the recordset row by row and comparing the current sNumber to the previous one, but I know that's not a good option. Thanks in advance! --Ken From ken.kogler at curf.edu Mon Sep 2 23:36:01 2002 From: ken.kogler at curf.edu (Ken Kogler) Date: Mon Sep 2 23:36:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() In-Reply-To: <000601c25302$24d05bf0$0808810a@eagle5> Message-ID: <000701c25303$44130660$0808810a@eagle5> Trying that result table again: From ken.kogler at curf.edu Mon Sep 2 23:36:06 2002 From: ken.kogler at curf.edu (Ken Kogler) Date: Mon Sep 2 23:36:06 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() In-Reply-To: <000601c25302$24d05bf0$0808810a@eagle5> Message-ID: <000801c25303$4ebf4380$0808810a@eagle5> Trying that result table again: sID | sNumber | sTitle | sOshaAnsi | aApp ------ | ------- | ---------------------- | --------- | ---------- 010017 | D1024 | DANGER- do not oper... | OSHA | Electrical 010027 | ZD1050 | DANGER- electrical... | ANSI Z535 | Electrical 010027 | ZD1050 | DANGER- electrical... | ANSI Z535 | Laser --Ken From r937 at interlog.com Mon Sep 2 23:45:01 2002 From: r937 at interlog.com (rudy) Date: Mon Sep 2 23:45:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() Message-ID: <01c25304$9f7ae080$09e9059a@rudy> > How can I prevent sign number "ZD1050" from > being returned as rows 2 AND 3? don't include the category in the result ;o) if you're going to remove "duplicates" by looping through the result set, which category do you keep? the first one? the last one? you can get the same result with sql, by the way, but i wouldn't do that if it were me, i'd do a modified crosstab -- 010017 | D1024 | DANGER- do not oper... | OSHA category: Electrical 010027 | ZD1050 | DANGER- electrical... | ANSI Z535 categories: Electrical, Laser piece of cake in coldfusion, with the GROUP= parameter in asp you'll have to do the programming yourself -- which means looping, oddly enough, although you're not discarding any information, just reformatting the one-to-many differently and this way you only print each sign once rudy From ken.kogler at curf.edu Tue Sep 3 00:14:01 2002 From: ken.kogler at curf.edu (Ken Kogler) Date: Tue Sep 3 00:14:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() In-Reply-To: <01c25304$9f7ae080$09e9059a@rudy> Message-ID: <000901c25308$92c5de40$0808810a@eagle5> > > How can I prevent sign number "ZD1050" from > > being returned as rows 2 AND 3? > don't include the category in the result ;o) You know, I didn't take this as more than a joke, but you're right... I don't need to display the category on the result page (but I do on the product info page). I do need to include it in the search algorithm, but I don't have to display it. That helps take out some of the complexity involved... > if it were me, i'd do a modified crosstab -- I'd probably do this differently too, if it wasn't due by the end of the week... :) Thanks a ton for your help, Rudy! I.O.U. 1 beer. Or more. Chicago beervolt sometime? --Ken From webguru at vsnl.net Tue Sep 3 00:14:08 2002 From: webguru at vsnl.net (Madhu Menon) Date: Tue Sep 3 00:14:08 2002 Subject: [thelist] Netscape 6.2 problem In-Reply-To: <003c01c2502f$f5ec8a40$38dc3fca@haidersystem> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020903102408.02570138@203.197.12.4> At 07:37 PM 30-08-02, Syed Zeeshan Haider wrote: >I don't believe so. Because there are hundreds of fan sites for >dedicated to MJ and these site produce Michael Jackson's lyrics without >any license. Why don't we ask Michael Jackson about it? No need to ask him. The lyrics ARE copyrighted, and you DO need permission to reproduce them, legally speaking. Just because there are other sites doing it doesn't mean it's permissible under the law. One of the largest lyrics sites on the Net, www.lyrics.ch had a long legal battle with the music industry, and they had to shut down. Just FYI. Regards, Madhu <<< * >>> Madhu Menon Internet User Experience Consultant Content * Interfaces * Usability * Net Strategy From michael at michaelefford.com.au Tue Sep 3 02:46:01 2002 From: michael at michaelefford.com.au (Michael Efford) Date: Tue Sep 3 02:46:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Doctypes and selecting text on IE 6 Message-ID: <00c601c2531d$a6629230$2da03bcb@gemini> Hi all, I have 2 versions of the same page here but with different doctypes... XHTML Transitional http://www.michaelefford.com.au/asset/index_xhtml.shtml HTML Transitional http://www.michaelefford.com.au/asset/index_html.shtml The problem I am having is in IE 6. Using the XHTML doctype causes very wierd things to happen when you try and select any text on the page. Basically, it either selects all or nothing. Using the HTML doctype fixes that issue, but then the page doesn't validate because of all the /> at the end of tags. Is there a way to make it XHTML valid, and have decent text selections in IE 6? A more minor issue is in Mozilla RC1, the XHTML page does wierd things to the menu..adding spaces between the table. It doesn't do this in the HTML version of the page. Any insight appreciated! Regards, Michael Efford. _____________________________ m i c h a e l e f f o r d f r e e l a n c e w e b d e s i g n e r michael at michaelefford.com.au http://www.michaelefford.com.au From andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk Tue Sep 3 03:00:01 2002 From: andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk (Andrew Maynes) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:00:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Apache In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Rich here is a snippet of the code (smtp.php), I think the error is attributed to the config? This is the same machine (win98) I have only just installed Apache and php? Andrew define('SMTP_INCLUDED', 1); // // This function has been modified as provided // by SirSir to allow multiline responses when // using SMTP Extensions // function server_parse($socket, $response) { while ( substr($server_response,3,1) != ' ' ) { if( !( $server_response = fgets($socket, 256) ) ) { message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, "Couldn't get mail server response codes", "", LINE, FILE); } } if( !( substr($server_response, 0, 3) == $response ) ) { message_die(GENERAL_ERROR, "Ran into problems sending Mail. Response: $server_response", "", LINE, FILE); } } -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Rich Gray Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 07:16 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: RE : [thelist] SMTP Apache Hi Andrew Can you post the code in question? It makes it a lot easier to try and help when you can see the code being run... anyway in smtp.php are you doing an fsockopen to a SMTP server? Cheers Rich -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Maynes Sent: 02 September 2002 14:48 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: RE : [thelist] SMTP Apache Thanks for the links, for some very bizarre reason all I need to do was put in the ../ before the file path which now creates this: Could not connect to smtp host : 9 : Bad file descriptor Any ideas? Andrew [snip] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 From robw at enigma-interactive.co.uk Tue Sep 3 03:10:01 2002 From: robw at enigma-interactive.co.uk (Rob Wilson) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:10:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Apache References: Message-ID: <007f01c25321$5660b600$2c01020a@Beanstalk> >Hi Rich here is a snippet of the code (smtp.php), I think the error is >attributed to the config? This is the same machine (win98) I have only just >installed Apache and php? Have a look in your php.ini ... from memory there's a line in there where you define your SMTP server you wish to use. Unless you have one running on your PC (unlikely under 98) then it's going to fall over when trying to send a mail (which I'm guessing you're trying to do). You'll need to change that line to point to an SMTP server you can send mail through. [mail function] ; For Win32 only. SMTP = ; For Win32 only. sendmail_from = me at localhost.com N.B. unless you have an "always on" connection you'll need to be online for this to work if you point it to a mail server outside your network. Rob From andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk Tue Sep 3 03:25:01 2002 From: andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk (Andrew Maynes) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:25:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Apache In-Reply-To: <007f01c25321$5660b600$2c01020a@Beanstalk> Message-ID: aha, I was being totally stupid and thinking that because I am connected my connection setting automatically would be localhost! but my smtp server is outside of my machine, what a dummy. So the settings in php.ini are irrelevant for Apache PHP running locally unless I want to connect to my isp, makes sense thank you, I feel such a prat and to think that last year I installed a fully operational small office network with 10 clients!! :) Do you think it's worth installing a smtp server? Andrew >Hi Rich here is a snippet of the code (smtp.php), I think the error is >attributed to the config? This is the same machine (win98) I have only just >installed Apache and php? Have a look in your php.ini ... from memory there's a line in there where you define your SMTP server you wish to use. Unless you have one running on your PC (unlikely under 98) then it's going to fall over when trying to send a mail (which I'm guessing you're trying to do). You'll need to change that line to point to an SMTP server you can send mail through. [mail function] ; For Win32 only. SMTP = ; For Win32 only. sendmail_from = me at localhost.com N.B. unless you have an "always on" connection you'll need to be online for this to work if you point it to a mail server outside your network. Rob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 From gassinaumasis at hotmail.com Tue Sep 3 03:30:01 2002 From: gassinaumasis at hotmail.com (Peter-Paul Koch) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:30:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Re: IE5Mac horizontal scrollbar bug solved Message-ID: >I noticed that 15 pixels is the exact width of the scrollbar, and in your >example you don't get the scrollbar as long as you stay to the edge of >where >the scrollbar would be, if it were there. So does Mac IE5 give all >absolutely positioned elements a secret margin of 15px, or just the ones >that intrude in the scrollbar area? Could be either. I think it's impossible to find out. How does one measure a margin of an absolutely positioned element? The only way I could think of was what I did: put it to the right or bottom of the page and see whether scrollbars appear. So I can't answer your question. ppk > > My current theory is that IE5Mac gives each absolutely positioned >element a > > secret margin of 15 pixels. My solution, based on this theory, works in >two > > simple test cases. It also doesn't bother the other browsers. > > > > See http://www.xs4all.nl/~ppk/js/ie5mac/margin.html for the full story >and > > the solution. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From gassinaumasis at hotmail.com Tue Sep 3 03:33:01 2002 From: gassinaumasis at hotmail.com (Peter-Paul Koch) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:33:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Doctypes and selecting text on IE 6 Message-ID: >I have 2 versions of the same page here but with different doctypes... > >XHTML Transitional >http://www.michaelefford.com.au/asset/index_xhtml.shtml > >HTML Transitional >http://www.michaelefford.com.au/asset/index_html.shtml > >The problem I am having is in IE 6. Using the XHTML doctype causes very >wierd things to happen when you try and select any text on the page. >Basically, it either selects all or nothing. >Using the HTML doctype fixes that issue, but then the page doesn't validate >because of all the /> at the end of tags. > >Is there a way to make it XHTML valid, and have decent text selections in >IE >6? Add on the very first line. It's perfectly valid, but IE6 falls back into Quirks Mode and the problem disappears (at least, that's what's supposed to happen). Let me know if it works. ppk _ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From robw at enigma-interactive.co.uk Tue Sep 3 03:36:01 2002 From: robw at enigma-interactive.co.uk (Rob Wilson) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:36:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Apache References: Message-ID: <009f01c25324$d5f31180$2c01020a@Beanstalk> > So the settings in php.ini are irrelevant for Apache PHP running locally unless I want to connect to my > isp, makes sense thank you The settings are relevant in that you need to specify a valid smtp server in order to be able to send mail via php, whether this is locally, on your network or an isp's makes no odds. Your script will fall over until it has a valid SMTP server to connect to. >Do you think it's worth installing a smtp server? Depends on what connection you have really, if you're on some form of always on you might as well use your ISP's smtp server. If on the other hand you're on dialup it might be worth running a combined smtp/pop3 server. Equally the other issue is how confident would you be in setting up and running an smtp server ? HTH Rob From gassinaumasis at hotmail.com Tue Sep 3 03:36:25 2002 From: gassinaumasis at hotmail.com (Peter-Paul Koch) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:36:25 2002 Subject: [thelist] Netscape 6/7- trouble with style.display= changing the layout! Message-ID: >I'm at a loss with this problem--when I run the enclosed code, by assigning >style.display- "block", my alignment is thrown off; extra space is added >between each row. When the page first loads, it's fine. This works fine in >IE 5 or 6, but Netscape 6 doesn't render it correctly. Please help! Is >there a workaround? Try display: table-row for NN6. But more recent builds do accept display: block and still show the TR fine. ppk _ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From listman at hazard0us.org Tue Sep 3 03:38:00 2002 From: listman at hazard0us.org (listman at hazard0us.org) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:38:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] sql server / asp hosting Message-ID: Hi : I am looking for a good/cheap/reliable SQL Server 2000 & ASP3 hosting provider. On SQL Server i specifically need full text catalog creation/access and possibly access to sql server configuration stuff like noise word-list files. Anybody have any suggestions ? Ashok p.s: some other lists recommended : http://mavweb.net and http://www.orcsweb.com ------ Ashok Hariharan http://www.unganisha.org ------ From andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk Tue Sep 3 03:42:01 2002 From: andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk (Andrew Maynes) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:42:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Apache In-Reply-To: <009f01c25324$d5f31180$2c01020a@Beanstalk> Message-ID: Rob I am only going to live once :) what could possibly go wrong apart from losing all my data! Could you recommend a (free!) smtp server i am using a dial up connection for this machine. Andrew :) -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Rob Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 09:35 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] SMTP Apache > So the settings in php.ini are irrelevant for Apache PHP running locally unless I want to connect to my > isp, makes sense thank you The settings are relevant in that you need to specify a valid smtp server in order to be able to send mail via php, whether this is locally, on your network or an isp's makes no odds. Your script will fall over until it has a valid SMTP server to connect to. >Do you think it's worth installing a smtp server? Depends on what connection you have really, if you're on some form of always on you might as well use your ISP's smtp server. If on the other hand you're on dialup it might be worth running a combined smtp/pop3 server. Equally the other issue is how confident would you be in setting up and running an smtp server ? HTH Rob -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 From robw at enigma-interactive.co.uk Tue Sep 3 03:46:01 2002 From: robw at enigma-interactive.co.uk (Rob Wilson) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:46:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Apache References: Message-ID: <00b501c25326$488e4060$2c01020a@Beanstalk> Heh, we use nix servers here so I have very little idea of win32 servers I'm afraid. http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Internet/Servers/Mail/ That might turn up a few options. Rob From andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk Tue Sep 3 03:53:00 2002 From: andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk (Andrew Maynes) Date: Tue Sep 3 03:53:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Apache In-Reply-To: <00b501c25326$488e4060$2c01020a@Beanstalk> Message-ID: Thank you Rob very much appreciated -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Rob Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 09:46 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] SMTP Apache Heh, we use nix servers here so I have very little idea of win32 servers I'm afraid. http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Internet/Servers/Mail/ That might turn up a few options. Rob -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 From richard.bennett at skynet.be Tue Sep 3 05:57:00 2002 From: richard.bennett at skynet.be (Richard Bennett) Date: Tue Sep 3 05:57:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] Perl regexp question Message-ID: <0eda01c25338$6b5c72d0$3a3988d9@wwwv7zwbf035xj> Hi, In a perl parser I'm trying to get the value of a keyword. Possible values are: project=main project =main project= main project = main And all the above with quotes: project="main" And with different case: Project=Main Just the word main should be returned, in lower case. what I have so far is this: $line = "project = main"; $line =~ m/project\s?=\s?"?(.)"?/i); $tmp=$1; $tmp =~ s/"//g; $tmp = lc($tmp); But it doesn't seem to work in all cases, and is a bit messy... any ideas? Thanks, Richard. From magnus at slackware.adsl.dk Tue Sep 3 06:39:01 2002 From: magnus at slackware.adsl.dk (Magnus =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8stergaard?=) Date: Tue Sep 3 06:39:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] How do I fix http '406 Not Acceptable' errors? Message-ID: <3D749F26.C2343D5A@slackware.adsl.dk> Hi, I couldn't find the answer on google or their FAQ so I hope one of you can help. What is the cause of the 406 errors I'm getting from googlebot? (some old logging follows) access_log: crawler12.googlebot.com - - [08/Aug/2002:08:15:44 +0200] "GET /contact HTTP/1.0" 406 426 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)" error_log: [Thu Aug 8 08:15:44 2002] [error] [client 64.68.82.66] no acceptable variant: /usr/local/apache/htdocs/contact I'm using mod_negotiation and it seems like a lot of bots return a 406 error. The page (http://example.com/contact and http://excample.com/contact.php) works fine in normal browsers, so what gives? I'm using Apache 1.3.26 and PHP 4.1.2 Kind regards // Magnus -- Magnus ?stergaard What we need is more "Freedom" and less "FreeDumb" -- Bruce Perens From andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk Tue Sep 3 06:50:00 2002 From: andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk (Andrew Maynes) Date: Tue Sep 3 06:50:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Postcast In-Reply-To: <009f01c25324$d5f31180$2c01020a@Beanstalk> Message-ID: Rob I have just installed postcast which is only a smtp server and is working a ok (very straightforward, in fact it was so easy i am not impressed!) should I have used a smtp/pop3 server? or will this do the job? I have changed the ini setiings but still getting the same error Could not connect to smtp host : 9 : Bad file descriptor Andrew > So the settings in php.ini are irrelevant for Apache PHP running locally unless I want to connect to my > isp, makes sense thank you The settings are relevant in that you need to specify a valid smtp server in order to be able to send mail via php, whether this is locally, on your network or an isp's makes no odds. Your script will fall over until it has a valid SMTP server to connect to. >Do you think it's worth installing a smtp server? Depends on what connection you have really, if you're on some form of always on you might as well use your ISP's smtp server. If on the other hand you're on dialup it might be worth running a combined smtp/pop3 server. Equally the other issue is how confident would you be in setting up and running an smtp server ? HTH Rob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 From robw at enigma-interactive.co.uk Tue Sep 3 06:57:01 2002 From: robw at enigma-interactive.co.uk (Rob Wilson) Date: Tue Sep 3 06:57:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Postcast References: Message-ID: <00ed01c25340$fc3cca90$2c01020a@Beanstalk> AFAIK That should have done the job. You're at the limits of my experience I'm afraid so I'm not going to be much / any help from here on in :/ Rob From ccosta at servidores.net Tue Sep 3 06:57:12 2002 From: ccosta at servidores.net (Carlos Costa Portela) Date: Tue Sep 3 06:57:12 2002 Subject: [thelist] Perl regexp question In-Reply-To: <0eda01c25338$6b5c72d0$3a3988d9@wwwv7zwbf035xj> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Richard Bennett wrote: > Hi, > In a perl parser I'm trying to get the value of a keyword. > > Possible values are: > > project=main > project =main > project= main > project = main > And all the above with quotes: > project="main" > And with different case: > Project=Main Try with $line = "project = main"; ($data,$value) = split("=",$line); $value =~ s/\ //g; Good luck, Carlos. _Carlos Costa Portela_________________________________________ | e-mail: ccosta at servidores.net | home page: http://casa.ccp.servidores.net | |_T?dalas persoas maiores foron nenos antes, pero poucas se lembran| From andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk Tue Sep 3 07:22:00 2002 From: andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk (Andrew Maynes) Date: Tue Sep 3 07:22:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Postcast PHP error In-Reply-To: <00ed01c25340$fc3cca90$2c01020a@Beanstalk> Message-ID: Thank Rob the installation of the smtp server has made a difference and changing the php.ini file too alas I get a different error :) Ran into problems sending Mail. Response: 500 unknown ??? command "localhost" Andrew -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Rob Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:57 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] SMTP Postcast AFAIK That should have done the job. You're at the limits of my experience I'm afraid so I'm not going to be much / any help from here on in :/ Rob -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 From Stevenson at epr.footman-walker.com Tue Sep 3 07:30:05 2002 From: Stevenson at epr.footman-walker.com (Stevenson Ngila) Date: Tue Sep 3 07:30:05 2002 Subject: [thelist] form elements on a div plus javascript Message-ID: when a form is not build on a div, the form elements values can be picked in javascript using: document.formname.formelement.value. if the form is on a div, how do you pick the form element values in javascript? Thanks, Stevenson Ngila Footman-Walker Associates Ltd http://www.footman-walker.co.uk From joshua at waetech.com Tue Sep 3 07:46:01 2002 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Tue Sep 3 07:46:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SQL: Eliminating Duplicates with .getRows() References: <000501c252fb$baab69a0$0808810a@eagle5> Message-ID: <11bf01c25347$ce14faa0$0200a8c0@client1> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Kogler" Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:41 PM > SQL looks like a work of art, Rudy, but it appears as if Access doesn't > support the join... Is there another way to do it? In my original post, > I had something to the effect of: Since you are using Access, have you re-looked at the putting the select query within the IN clause, such as this: SELECT fields FROM table WHERE sID IN ( [a select that grabs the sIDs] ) That query will remove the duplicates as well. In your case, something like: select sID, sNumber, sTitle, sOshaAnsi, aApp from xrefAppsSigns , tblSigns where sID IN ( select sID from xrefAppsSigns , tblSigns where aNumber = sNumber and aApp LIKE '%s%' union select sID from tblSigns , xrefAppsSigns where sNumber = aNumber and sTitle LIKE '%s%' ) and sNumber = aNumber -joshua From Dave.Naden at sas.com Tue Sep 3 08:02:01 2002 From: Dave.Naden at sas.com (Dave Naden) Date: Tue Sep 3 08:02:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Netscape 6/7- trouble with style.display= changing the layout! Message-ID: <590086B5F26F294298B8C8C5C43619440B177E@merc16.na.sas.com> Thanks for the reply, but this makes it just worse! Did you try the code? (I'm using NN 6.23) -dave naden -----Original Message----- From: Peter-Paul Koch [mailto:gassinaumasis at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:35 AM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] Netscape 6/7- trouble with style.display= changing the layout! >I'm at a loss with this problem--when I run the enclosed code, by assigning >style.display- "block", my alignment is thrown off; extra space is added >between each row. When the page first loads, it's fine. This works fine in >IE 5 or 6, but Netscape 6 doesn't render it correctly. Please help! Is >there a workaround? Try display: table-row for NN6. But more recent builds do accept display: block and still show the TR fine. ppk _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! From gassinaumasis at hotmail.com Tue Sep 3 08:19:01 2002 From: gassinaumasis at hotmail.com (Peter-Paul Koch) Date: Tue Sep 3 08:19:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Netscape 6/7- trouble with style.display= changing the layout! Message-ID: >Thanks for the reply, but this makes it just worse! Did you try the code? >(I'm using NN 6.23) -dave naden I did use the code, but ages ago in NN6.1 or something. For more help I need to see the page (no* attachments please, URL). ppk > >I'm at a loss with this problem--when I run the enclosed code, by >assigning > >style.display- "block", my alignment is thrown off; extra space is added > >between each row. When the page first loads, it's fine. This works fine >in > >IE 5 or 6, but Netscape 6 doesn't render it correctly. Please help! Is > >there a workaround? > >Try display: table-row for NN6. But more recent builds do accept display: >block and still show the TR fine. _____ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From aaron at youngpup.net Tue Sep 3 08:40:01 2002 From: aaron at youngpup.net (Aaron Boodman) Date: Tue Sep 3 08:40:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] form elements on a div plus javascript References: Message-ID: <014401c25368$13a9bb30$6501a8c0@youngpup1> > if the form is on a div, how do you pick the form element values in > javascript? It doesn't make an difference unless you are in navigator 4.x and the div is absolutely-positioned with CSS. In that case, the div magically becomes a proprietary navigator 4 construct called a "layer". In that case, the layer becomes it's own document. If you had:

In navigator 4.x only, to get the value of myTextbox, you'd need: window.document.layers.myDiv.document.myForm.myTextbox.value; g'luck -- Aaron Boodman aaron | www @ youngpup.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stevenson Ngila" To: "Thelist at Lists. Evolt. Org" Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:25 AM Subject: [thelist] form elements on a div plus javascript > when a form is not build on a div, the form elements values can be picked in > javascript using: > document.formname.formelement.value. > > if the form is on a div, how do you pick the form element values in > javascript? > > Thanks, > Stevenson Ngila > Footman-Walker Associates Ltd > http://www.footman-walker.co.uk > > > > -- > For unsubscribe and other options, including > the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! > From K_HEYTINK at winebow.com Tue Sep 3 10:00:00 2002 From: K_HEYTINK at winebow.com (Kathleen Heytink) Date: Tue Sep 3 10:00:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] Event Registration System Message-ID: <06154D6549B7D5119FC100508BB02DED016AC403@nj10-exchange.winebow.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Burhan [mailto:burhankhalid at members.evolt.org] > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:02 PM > I have been searching for a couple of days now, but can't seem to > find something like this, and I know that I am not the first person > to find a need for this. What I need is a system (language is > really not an issue yet) where the administrator can schedule > events, and then users can register to attend these events. We are using something similar to this for our wine tasting events. We have an online form for participants to fill out, then data is collected in a database which can be downloaded in a CSV file. Maintenance functions - adding/deleting events, changing confirmation message, etc. are carried out via a function on our intranet. I designed the form, and our database and development company - WebmasterUSA did the rest. If you are interested in having them set it up for you, their web site is - http://www.webmasterusa.com -- Kath Heytink Web Designer Winebow, Inc www.winebow.com -- From David.Cantrell at Gunter.AF.mil Tue Sep 3 10:12:00 2002 From: David.Cantrell at Gunter.AF.mil (David.Cantrell at Gunter.AF.mil) Date: Tue Sep 3 10:12:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] good resources for beginner - HTML, CSS, ASP, XML Message-ID: <092C0521BB49C34AB7DF7578B6D513E00142AF50@fsjubj09> Hi all, I've got a new guy that needs to get up to speed quickly on HTML, CSS, ASP, and later XML. My problem is, I'm a trained programmer with years of experience doing this stuff, whereas he is not. He's technically competent and has worked on UNIX systems before (using specialized applications, not general administration), but not done any form of scripting at all. He's a smart guy and very eager to learn, and I have no doubt he'll soak this stuff up like a sponge. However, since I am essentially self-taught since Mosaic was a pup and he needs to get working in a short time (I may be gone within six months), I'm wondering what combination of books/sites would you recommend for someone coming from square one, with no knowledge of web development concepts at all (except for knowing TCP/IP), to learn the material? He's going through the HTML tutorials at www.w3schools.com right now. Any other resources you could provide would be great. I'm specifically looking for the "good" sites and books you have used to learn HTML & XHTML, CSS, ASP 3.0 with VBScript, and XML & XSL. Of course I plan to sign him up for this mailing list as well. ;) Any input much appreciated. Thanks! -dave From info at warbassedesign.com Tue Sep 3 10:18:01 2002 From: info at warbassedesign.com (Philip Warbasse) Date: Tue Sep 3 10:18:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] good resources for beginner - HTML, CSS, ASP, XML References: <092C0521BB49C34AB7DF7578B6D513E00142AF50@fsjubj09> Message-ID: <002501c2535b$f18d16c0$53020344@ph.cox.net> Hi Dave, This subject comes up every now and again on thelist. I really learned a lot from www.webmonkey.com There is also a compiled list on evolt that is very good. Good luck. Philip Warbasse www.warbassedesign.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: [thelist] good resources for beginner - HTML, CSS, ASP, XML > Hi all, > > I've got a new guy that needs to get up to speed quickly on HTML, CSS, ASP, > and later XML. My problem is, I'm a trained programmer with years of > experience doing this stuff, whereas he is not. He's technically competent > and has worked on UNIX systems before (using specialized applications, not > general administration), but not done any form of scripting at all. > > He's a smart guy and very eager to learn, and I have no doubt he'll soak > this stuff up like a sponge. However, since I am essentially self-taught > since Mosaic was a pup and he needs to get working in a short time (I may be > gone within six months), I'm wondering what combination of books/sites would > you recommend for someone coming from square one, with no knowledge of web > development concepts at all (except for knowing TCP/IP), to learn the > material? He's going through the HTML tutorials at www.w3schools.com right > now. Any other resources you could provide would be great. > > I'm specifically looking for the "good" sites and books you have used to > learn HTML & XHTML, CSS, ASP 3.0 with VBScript, and XML & XSL. > > Of course I plan to sign him up for this mailing list as well. ;) > > Any input much appreciated. > > Thanks! > -dave > -- > For unsubscribe and other options, including > the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! > From Dave.Naden at sas.com Tue Sep 3 10:32:01 2002 From: Dave.Naden at sas.com (Dave Naden) Date: Tue Sep 3 10:32:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Netscape 6/7- trouble with style.display= changing the layout! Message-ID: <590086B5F26F294298B8C8C5C43619440C9E99@merc16.na.sas.com> Here's the code, inside the email : Test Page to find out why NN6 is not rendering this thing right!
First table

Second table

Third table

-----Original Message----- From: Peter-Paul Koch [mailto:gassinaumasis at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 9:19 AM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: [thelist] Netscape 6/7- trouble with style.display= changing the layout! >Thanks for the reply, but this makes it just worse! Did you try the code? >(I'm using NN 6.23) -dave naden I did use the code, but ages ago in NN6.1 or something. For more help I need to see the page (no attachments please, URL). ppk > >I'm at a loss with this problem--when I run the enclosed code, by >assigning > >style.display- "block", my alignment is thrown off; extra space is added > >between each row. When the page first loads, it's fine. This works fine >in > >IE 5 or 6, but Netscape 6 doesn't render it correctly. Please help! Is > >there a workaround? > >Try display: table-row for NN6. But more recent builds do accept display: >block and still show the TR fine. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! From Matt at grndwtr.com Tue Sep 3 11:01:01 2002 From: Matt at grndwtr.com (Matthias Ritzkowski) Date: Tue Sep 3 11:01:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] popup window size Message-ID: <8179FA78B6D0D111AA53006097B01280383FA3@mail1> Hi Evolters! The piece of code below is in a table cell. The problem is defining the size of the popup window. Works fine in Mozilla, Opera 6.04 but fills the whole screen in IE.5.0 and I don't see why. Any hints?? TIA Regards Matthias Ritzkowski From lwkraemer at directvinternet.com Tue Sep 3 11:17:02 2002 From: lwkraemer at directvinternet.com (lon.kraemer) Date: Tue Sep 3 11:17:02 2002 Subject: [thelist] popup window size References: <8179FA78B6D0D111AA53006097B01280383FA3@mail1> Message-ID: <001301c25365$19b379b0$0201a8c0@yoda> > The piece of code below is in a table cell. The problem is defining the size > of the popup window. Works fine in Mozilla, Opera 6.04 but fills the whole > screen in IE.5.0 and I don't see why. Any hints?? > > width="16" border="0" > onClick="window.open('multiple_pdf.php?pn=','mywindow','titleba r=no > , left=50, height=200, location=no, menubar=no,status=no, toolbar=no, > top=50, width=250')";"> Looks like too many quotes? ...top=50, width=250');"> -- Lon Kraemer ----------------------------------------- From carole at pixeltable.com Tue Sep 3 11:27:01 2002 From: carole at pixeltable.com (carole guevin) Date: Tue Sep 3 11:27:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] copycat/squatting of domain name In-Reply-To: <8179FA78B6D0D111AA53006097B01280383FA3@mail1> Message-ID: hi everyone, would like your comments and alert you to a new kind of domain name squatting??? Follows my original post and their reply. anybody else have encountered this? how would you handle it? tx. .c >Domain: netdiver.tk > >Please have http://www.netdiver.tk removed from your server NOW since it >is validating our copyright to http://www.netdiver.net. The copycat is >displaying our interface, design, and content. ++++++++++++++++++ Dear Carole, Thank you for your email pointing out the domain issue. My name is Balder Alofs. I work with Dot TK and Joost Zurbier, the technical manager of the .TK "ccTLD" (Country Code Top Level Domain) as appointed by ICANN and IANA. We are very sensitive to the situation you indicated in your email and intend to take care of the matter immediately. So that you understand Dot TK's business, how this occurred, as well as how the resolution affects you, please allow me to explain briefly: Dot TK is the exclusive registry of .TK domain names. Very basically, we offer two services: 1. We offer users the opportunity to register a FREEDOMAIN.TK: with this service, users can register the domain name for FREE, but they do not acquire the licensing (legal) rights. These rights remain with Dot TK. We then point the FREEDOMAIN.tk to any existing, live site on the Web requested by the registrant. This is a "Referral" URL. 2. Users may also purchase a PAIDDOMAIN.TK: this service is like that offered by any other ccTLD. The registrant purchases a license for a .tk domain name, for an annual fee. The difference here is that we accept registrants worldwide, while many ccTLD managers do not. In any event, the registrant in question (the one using the domain you object to) is a user of a FREEDOMAIN.TK. The registrant elected to obtain the domain "XXXXXXX.TK". This means that it is a domain which Dot TK is the legal holder of. This is fortunate for you because it means that we have the authority to deactivate the domain. In fact, we have elected to release this domain name from the current registrant as a FREEDOMAIN.tk and as we are unable to remove it entirely as a domain option, we are making it available as a PAIDDOMAIN.tk only. The registration fee is $ per year. You have a few options as it relates to the domain. You may now register the domain if you wish, or you may leave it in the pool to be registered by anyone else willing to pay for it. I would recommend you purchase the domain and secure it for your own use. You can easily register it via our Website at http://www.Dot.TK. We have registered more than 450,000 FREE and PAID Dot TK domains since our launch earlier this year, so many people all over the world already recognize he .tk extension. We believe you will find it to be a worthwhile investment in your Internet business. We are hopeful that this resolves the issue. With kind regards, Balder Alofs Dot TK Support www.Dot.TK mailto:balder at dot.tk "Dividing Domains Differently" From Anthony at Baratta.com Tue Sep 3 11:36:00 2002 From: Anthony at Baratta.com (Anthony Baratta) Date: Tue Sep 3 11:36:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] popup window size In-Reply-To: <8179FA78B6D0D111AA53006097B01280383FA3@mail1> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020903093333.02e97b20@baratta.com> At 09:00 AM 9/3/2002, Matthias Ritzkowski wrote: >width="16" border="0" >onClick="window.open('multiple_pdf.php?pn=','mywindow','titlebar=no >, left=50, height=200, location=no, menubar=no,status=no, toolbar=no, >top=50, width=250')";"> One thing I would change is match up top and left & height and width, so the pairs are "together". --- Anthony Baratta President Keyboard Jockeys "Conformity is the refuge of the unimaginative." From richardgray at onetel.co.uk Tue Sep 3 11:43:00 2002 From: richardgray at onetel.co.uk (Rich Gray) Date: Tue Sep 3 11:43:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Postcast PHP error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Andrew SMTP error 500 usually means an invalid command was sent to the server. What was the mail() command used in your PHP script? What are the SMTP [mail_function] settings in your php.ini file? Cheers Rich -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Maynes Sent: 03 September 2002 13:24 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: [thelist] SMTP Postcast PHP error Thank Rob the installation of the smtp server has made a difference and changing the php.ini file too alas I get a different error :) Ran into problems sending Mail. Response: 500 unknown ??? command "localhost" Andrew -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Rob Wilson Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:57 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] SMTP Postcast AFAIK That should have done the job. You're at the limits of my experience I'm afraid so I'm not going to be much / any help from here on in :/ Rob -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! From andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk Tue Sep 3 11:48:01 2002 From: andrew at humanbehaviour.co.uk (Andrew Maynes) Date: Tue Sep 3 11:48:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] SMTP Postcast PHP error In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Rich I can now send a message through the script on my local machine which means I was missing a smtp server! I knew I'd get thee in the end but obviously I did get there quicker because of you guys thank you much for pointers Andrew --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/02 From VHeilman at eAngler.com Tue Sep 3 12:08:01 2002 From: VHeilman at eAngler.com (Vince Heilman) Date: Tue Sep 3 12:08:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Best message board product Message-ID: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> Ken Kogler wrote: >>> http://forum.snitz.com/ I'll give a thid vote to this one. I've used it for a while now, no problems. Win2k servers, ASP, SQL. Good developer community. -Vince > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen J. Bowen [mailto:lists at miinx.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 11:08 PM > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Subject: Re: [thelist] Best message board product > > > Ken Kogler wrote: > > http://forum.snitz.com/ > > I'll second this, have used Snitz Forums with many client > sites and find > it extremely easy to set up and hugely configurable. > > hth, > Karen > ------- > Miinx Design & Development > e :: karen at miinx.com.au > p :: 0413.880.302 > w :: www.miinx.com.au > > > -- > For unsubscribe and other options, including > the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! > From JGreen at desmoinesmetro.com Tue Sep 3 12:15:00 2002 From: JGreen at desmoinesmetro.com (Janet Green) Date: Tue Sep 3 12:15:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] Best message board product Message-ID: <7245DCF24646B944B6BE516574FA54FEA4E445@gdmp03.desmoinesmetro.com> >>>>> Ken Kogler wrote: >>> http://forum.snitz.com/ I'll give a thid vote to this one. I've used it for a while now, no problems. Win2k servers, ASP, SQL. Good developer community.<<< Make that fourth vote. We're using Snitz and it works great, easy to administer. -Janet www.desmoinesmetro.com/forum From SCaudill at municode.com Tue Sep 3 12:28:01 2002 From: SCaudill at municode.com (Stephen Caudill) Date: Tue Sep 3 12:28:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] NS 7, Mozilla problem Message-ID: I have a drop down menu that is doing some very strange things in NS 7(not the beta, the full version) and Mozilla. When moused over, it seems to avoid the mouse... it litterally moves up and down quickly creating a most annoying effect. Has anyone experienced this before? Any ideas as to whats causing it? You can find it at: http://www.mccimaging.com All thoughts/comments appreciated. Stephen Caudill Web Designer Municipal Code Corporation www.municode.com www.mccimaging.com From hassan at webtuitive.com Tue Sep 3 12:41:00 2002 From: hassan at webtuitive.com (Hassan Schroeder) Date: Tue Sep 3 12:41:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] NS 7, Mozilla problem References: Message-ID: <3D74F3F6.1060607@webtuitive.com> Stephen Caudill wrote: > I have a drop down menu that is doing some very strange things in NS > 7(not the beta, the full version) and Mozilla. When moused over, it > seems to avoid the mouse... it litterally moves up and down quickly.. > http://www.mccimaging.com FWIW, I'm not seeing any such problem on Moz 1.0/Win2K. -- H* Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- hassan at webtuitive.com Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com -- creating dynamic Web sites and applications since 1994 -- From SCaudill at municode.com Tue Sep 3 12:57:01 2002 From: SCaudill at municode.com (Stephen Caudill) Date: Tue Sep 3 12:57:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] NS 7, Mozilla problem Message-ID: Thats encouraging, however I am definitely getting the error in mozilla 1.1 on win2k and NS7... arrgh. Stephen Caudill Web Designer Municipal Code Corporation www.municode.com www.mccimaging.com FWIW, I'm not seeing any such problem on Moz 1.0/Win2K. From rwd at csi1st.net Tue Sep 3 13:08:01 2002 From: rwd at csi1st.net (Ron Dorman) Date: Tue Sep 3 13:08:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] NS 7, Mozilla problem References: Message-ID: <3D74F8AE.5060405@csi1st.net> I don't have NS7, but NS6.2.3, Win2K your dropdowns work nicely. Ron D. Stephen Caudill wrote: >I have a drop down menu that is doing some very strange things in . . . > From r937 at interlog.com Tue Sep 3 13:40:00 2002 From: r937 at interlog.com (rudy) Date: Tue Sep 3 13:40:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] popup window size Message-ID: <01c25379$2a3d3dc0$LocalHost@rudy> > Any hints?? > >onClick="window.open('multiple_pdf.php?pn=','mywindow','titlebar= no >, left=50, height=200, location=no, menubar=no,status=no, toolbar=no, >top=50, width=250')";"> remove the spaces in the attribute string .jeff would say you don't need any attributes that specify "no" but it's a good idea to leave them in so that you don't have to remember the syntax if you want to set one of them to "yes" rudy From r937 at interlog.com Tue Sep 3 13:47:01 2002 From: r937 at interlog.com (rudy) Date: Tue Sep 3 13:47:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] popup window size Message-ID: <01c2537a$47759940$LocalHost@rudy> p.s. since you have top and left, you may want to add screenx and screeny one pair's for internet explorer, the other for netscape, dunno which ones opera uses rudy From abuse at he.net Tue Sep 3 13:58:00 2002 From: abuse at he.net (Hurricane Electric Abuse Dept.) Date: Tue Sep 3 13:58:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] PHP Hosting - he.net In-Reply-To: <008101c25027$15a3acf0$2532fc80@pravda> Message-ID: Hello, Hurricane Electric has a very strict zero tolerance spam policy. Additionally email addresses are not sold or distributed in any way. There are no lists generated to compile addresses in our system. Your information with us is always private. The only information we are able to release is accessable to the public (such as from the whois database). Your personal information and information regarding your account, including email addresses, are protected. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. +-----------------------------------------+ | Hurricane Electric Abuse Department | | abuse at he.net http://he.net/webtos.html | +-----------------------------------------+ On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, David U. wrote: > { schaapy } wrote: > > I've hosted with he.net for a couple years now and have hosted almost > > ALL my clients on them. They were great and had great prices. > > However, today I just got an email that said he.net sold a list of > > user emails to various companies and I will now be getting SPAM from > > these people. > > Uhh, please forward this email to the list. > > I know a few people who work or have worked at HE.net. A group I work with > colo's almost 20 boxes there. I would be very surprised if this were true. > > -davidu > > From haagj at ctcgsc.org Tue Sep 3 13:58:11 2002 From: haagj at ctcgsc.org (Haag, Jason) Date: Tue Sep 3 13:58:11 2002 Subject: [thelist] dangers of using contenteditable? Message-ID: <5A69399A2BB6504B9193F0A1660A5CF902DB9C@pefl-mail1.pefl.ctcgsc.org> Does anyone know of any explicit dangers of using the 'contenteditable' property? I thought some evolt members might like to check this out: Has anyone heard of xopus? Xopus is a fully browser based WYSIWYG validating XML editor. Xopus is the ultimate tool to enable common users to edit XML in a Microsoft Word like environment. Due to its standards compliant architecture, deployment is a breeze. No browserplugins or ActiveX installs are needed (1). Most XML Schema's and XSL Stylesheets can be used as-is. Xopus is platform independant, it runs in Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.5+, Netscape 7+ and Mozilla 1.0+. Q42's long expected Xopus open source version is released! Website: http://www.xopus.org Online demo: http://xopus.org/demo Download: http://xopus.org/downloads/Xopus200207090117OS.zip From gassinaumasis at hotmail.com Tue Sep 3 14:36:01 2002 From: gassinaumasis at hotmail.com (Peter-Paul Koch) Date: Tue Sep 3 14:36:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Netscape 6/7- trouble with style.display= changing the layout! Message-ID: > > > >
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So you're trying to display a TABLE, not a TR. Theoretically display: table would do the trick, though I never tried it. I'm reasonably sure that display: block works on TR's in NN6.2 and up. ppk _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From richard.bennett at skynet.be Tue Sep 3 15:43:00 2002 From: richard.bennett at skynet.be (Richard Bennett) Date: Tue Sep 3 15:43:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] Perl regexp question References: Message-ID: <114c01c2538a$221f15d0$3a3988d9@wwwv7zwbf035xj> Hi, <----- Original Message ----- Message-ID: Today, the cows mooved Richard Bennett to write: > For some reason the string changed to: > project=3Dmain instead of project=main. > > Does anyone know where the 3D comes from, and whether it's a fixed value I > can parse out, or whether it could change? According to WinXP Charmap, 3D is =. So it sounds like your writer is using double equal signs, or something. If i knew perl regexes better i'd offer a suggestion, but i only just started learning perl myself, and seem to be blanking on syntax. . . . -- Jonathon Isaac Swiderski \\ dangercat-20 at dangercat.net cs.oberlin.edu/~jswiders \\ www.dangercat.net/?id=mt People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use. -- Soren Kierkegaard From joel at spinhead.com Tue Sep 3 17:02:00 2002 From: joel at spinhead.com (Joel Canfield) Date: Tue Sep 3 17:02:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] Konqueror selecting multiple buttons simulteanously Message-ID: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] A coworker is developing a web tool for use on Linux boxes. We've developed a pretty standard nav bar, with graphical buttons and JavaScript mouseovers. It works well in various versions of IE, Opera, and NN on PC, and on NN on Linux. In Konqueror, when you roll near the buttons, all buttons from the closest to the top of the navbar are highlighted as if the mouseover is firing for all. And, no matter which button you click, the HREF for the first button loads. Any ideas? Code etc available if it will help. joel From dmah at members.evolt.org Tue Sep 3 17:37:01 2002 From: dmah at members.evolt.org (Dean Mah) Date: Tue Sep 3 17:37:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Perl regexp question In-Reply-To: <114c01c2538a$221f15d0$3a3988d9@wwwv7zwbf035xj> References: <114c01c2538a$221f15d0$3a3988d9@wwwv7zwbf035xj> Message-ID: <20020903223203.GA2352@alice.cg.shawcable.net> See: http://www.nacs.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/MIME/1521/05_Content-Transfer-Encoding.html#5.1 The = sign indicates that the next two characters are hexadecimal and represent the character being encoded. Dean On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 10:40:24PM +0200, Richard Bennett wrote: > Also a good idea, but with the same limitation, I'd need to do it to each > line of the email, which would give wrong results if there was another = > somewhere. > > It seems my problem wasn't so much with the reqexp, but with users sending > html email. > For some reason the string changed to: > project=3Dmain instead of project=main. > > Does anyone know where the 3D comes from, and whether it's a fixed value I > can parse out, or whether it could change? From cparker at swatgear.com Tue Sep 3 17:43:01 2002 From: cparker at swatgear.com (Chris W. Parker) Date: Tue Sep 3 17:43:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] ACCESSIBILITY: working with nn4.x and everything else (who'd of guessed?) Message-ID: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE033091@ati-ex-01.ati.local> hi. my problem is a common one i'm sure. in ie6 (i remember this being true for 5 and 5.5 also) my text field box is much smaller than in nn4.x even though i've specified the same number of character widths. i know this is because each browser uses a different font. my question though is, how can i best deal with this? should i... * rely on CSS? * make my IE box really short so that when it's viewed in nn4.x it doesn't wreck the layout? * use some server side script to detect the browser and then write in an appropriate value for each? * use a client side script to detect the browser and then write in an appropriate value for each? those are the only options i could think of. i'm voting for CSS, but i don't see how i can make my IE box big, while my NN box stays small. moz, opera, and nn6 all seem to make the box smaller than even IE does, so i'm not worried about those guys. any ideas? thanks, chris. From michael at tapinternet.com Tue Sep 3 17:47:00 2002 From: michael at tapinternet.com (Michael Kimsal) Date: Tue Sep 3 17:47:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] ACCESSIBILITY: working with nn4.x and everything else (who'd of guessed?) In-Reply-To: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE033091@ati-ex-01.ati.local> References: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE033091@ati-ex-01.ati.local> Message-ID: <1031093427.5179.5.camel@lunix> On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 18:42, Chris W. Parker wrote: > hi. > > my problem is a common one i'm sure. in ie6 (i remember this being true > for 5 and 5.5 also) my text field box is much smaller than in nn4.x even > though i've specified the same number of character widths. i know this > is because each browser uses a different font. my question though is, > how can i best deal with this? should i... > > * rely on CSS? > * make my IE box really short so that when it's viewed in nn4.x it > doesn't wreck the layout? > * use some server side script to detect the browser and then write in an > appropriate value for each? > * use a client side script to detect the browser and then write in an > appropriate value for each? > > those are the only options i could think of. i'm voting for CSS, but i > don't see how i can make my IE box big, while my NN box stays small. > > No one answer, because you'll have to decide - I've seen people do all of the above in different situations. The problem is not the font specifically, it's how the browser's approximate the size. IE (I think) uses the width of the widest character, and NS uses an average font width to determine the size. Maybe it's reversed - I can't remember. I do know that I've tested this theory before - putting in 'cols=30' means that I can type 30 W characters in one browser. 30 W characters in the other browser would be too wide. HTH From jlucido at version4.com Tue Sep 3 18:08:01 2002 From: jlucido at version4.com (Jeff Lucido) Date: Tue Sep 3 18:08:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] DHTML expanding lists Message-ID: David: Thanks for your help! It seems my over complicating the problem was masking the true simplicity of what was trying to accomplish (damn engineer coming out again). Your ideas worked great and seem to be working well (IE 4+ on PC). I am placing it into our CMS system now so hopefully everything will play nicely when generated from the database. I did make a few changes but I kept true to your original idea. One thing I did to make sure the other layers were in their "off" state was to call your "hide" function first on the onclick command before I ran the "flip" function to turn that layer element on. Very simple and portable. Thanks a lot for your help! Kind regards, -JSLucido -----Original Message----- From: evolt at david.us-lot.org [mailto:evolt at david.us-lot.org] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 6:01 PM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] DHTML expanding lists On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 05:01:36PM -0500, Jeff Lucido wrote: > Evolters: > > I have been banging my head around here for a few days working on what > I thought was a simple implementation of an expanding DHTML listing. > Specifically, the project I am working on requires a listing of data > with one level of data underneath. For example: > > LINK 1 > LINK 2 > LINK 3 > link 3.1 > link 3.2 > link 3.3 > LINK 4 > link 4.1 > link 4.2 > link 4.3 > LINK5 > LINK 6 http://david.us-lot.org/dir.php?dir=/www-concepts/collapse > The tricky part is this listing of data is contained within a table > and varies in vertical position based on the information needed for > the page (i.e. the number of elements above link 3 will vary from page > to page). Secondly, links 1,2,5,6 are not part of the expanding list, > rather they are regular links to other pages. So, basically if the > visitor clicks on link 3 the below main links (4,5,6) would move down > accordingly based on the amount of links contained under link 3, with > the same being true for link 4. The visitor would then see the exposed > sub-links of 3.1,3.2,3.3. I have tried several scripts form a few > places (DHTMLCentral, DynamicDrive, etc.) but they are all called > using absolute positions and require the setting of a container height > for the possible amount of space needed to display the items. > > I hope I am making some sense here. All I really need it to do is when > a visitor clicks on a link which contains sub-links the main links > below it move down to accommodate the listing of sub-links. Also, when > a visitor "opens" a link (in the case number 3) and then opens another > link containing sub-links (in the case link 4) then the previously > opened one closes and the newly requested one opens. Nothing too hard, > right? Also, I do not care about persistence across clicks so when the > visitor returns to the page the proper link is still "open." > > If any kind soul out there has run into this and can lend some support > in any form I would be greatly appreciative. Some starting code follows, unfortunatly it doesn't collapse a open sections when another section is opened. I considered the possibility, but realised that I would have to make various checks so that an ancestor of the section being opened wasn't hidden. You might be able to use this as a starting point though. (Obviously you can replace the tags with s). flip.js: function flip(e) { if (document.getElementById(e).style.display == 'none') { document.getElementById(e).style.display = 'block'; } else { document.getElementById(e).style.display = 'none'; } } function hideall() { var Nodes = document.getElementsByTagName('ol') var max = Nodes.length for(var i = 0;i < max;i++) { var nodeObj = Nodes.item(i) nodeObj.style.display = 'none'; } } html: Collapsing Lists
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-- David Dorward http://david.us-lot.org/ HTML email is a bit like using coloured paper and glitter ink on a CV. -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! From simplecypher at bitshift.ws Tue Sep 3 18:08:22 2002 From: simplecypher at bitshift.ws (::kevination::) Date: Tue Sep 3 18:08:22 2002 Subject: [thelist] ACCESSIBILITY: working with nn4.x and everything else (who'd of guessed?) References: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE033091@ati-ex-01.ati.local> Message-ID: <3D754145.8030500@bitshift.ws> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chris W. Parker wrote: > hi. > > my problem is a common one i'm sure. in ie6 (i remember this being true > for 5 and 5.5 also) my text field box is much smaller than in nn4.x even > though i've specified the same number of character widths. i know this > is because each browser uses a different font. my question though is, > how can i best deal with this? should i... > > * rely on CSS? > * make my IE box really short so that when it's viewed in nn4.x it > doesn't wreck the layout? > * use some server side script to detect the browser and then write in an > appropriate value for each? > * use a client side script to detect the browser and then write in an > appropriate value for each? > > those are the only options i could think of. i'm voting for CSS, but i > don't see how i can make my IE box big, while my NN box stays small. If you are really worried about Accessibility then use a server-side script or CSS. The client-side script is totally out since the form must work with JavaScript disabled in order to pass basic levels of Accessibility. > moz, opera, and nn6 all seem to make the box smaller than even IE does, > so i'm not worried about those guys. If you are worried about people that have poor eyesight then you might want to do something about this as well. It's a tough call without a URL and more information about your users. Your best bet would be to solicit input from the very people you are worried about. You may discover that there is nothing to fix. - -- - --- kevin D. white email, simplecypher at bitshift.ws im, simplecypher - --- - -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.1.90-nr1 (Windows 2000) iQIVAwUBPXVBUe4zpFgPJZelAQLnzBAAnCjedH+m2Y/dcRaqL7huYjzbbE+EKI+T 51nlGR0Xf668UY7ned4CaTja1gIz+pKdFvx7v0koakn3TANsKDcexP7GZcUHM1/M 2HvoaKSxGDJ6fPHITUhftW0dRgmX4ZH3PPPj8QCmNxpSaHkcPdFhMnIyI1EQGr+S OhmeUuyzG5nps6U6PjGIzi35viYJqCBZ9PKDeN4TMENHsDFweP2evrqtBq6bqrUF 7DSAvtrXWuf3XAejDyBz0F2jpvRpDcRAmugjBxFo7iRSDOZQCZieJgH62bbQNnMd Ks/TSvhIhZFJd5DEbv5inI0I3XiRe0T6GUSSKPCcCHgnsmvxPiyGV4RYuoVy8twG Krls8Szn7PtRGeYSBOUQxXgNPB6S3H5SqxNyTrqumZSKm3L2ps8gqivRGWB+RVNj NPfVojXDJtxwUxFvSPK03g/XJ2ZfF7sP5PN8DzUfOcGVaEXJEvqR0W4c+s1DK09u z7iIJMK85H4PsBXtsJ2SdD24LR1RJANx9hZjR0gFplnkucppFGQFMaTipp0M1oUe 5KCifdZ+J6nyyHvVkwA5fcPH1nTwZE3Ot7oaJG8HoKo9tAlSTH6zZAWBEif4axC4 q0HeIQ8gJ3pxuQ1aUY9bP0K4er8MCu7ibYJj/+Na15RvcKIrJ8FamwFfdgmz9rpW xP+C3UZmL38= =oKu2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hassan at webtuitive.com Tue Sep 3 18:13:01 2002 From: hassan at webtuitive.com (Hassan Schroeder) Date: Tue Sep 3 18:13:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] ACCESSIBILITY: working with nn4.x and everything else (who'd of guessed?) References: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE033091@ati-ex-01.ati.local> Message-ID: <3D7541F1.5070508@webtuitive.com> Chris W. Parker wrote: > my problem is a common one i'm sure. in ie6 (i remember this being true > for 5 and 5.5 also) my text field box is much smaller than in nn4.x even > though i've specified the same number of character widths. i know this > is because each browser uses a different font. my question though is, > how can i best deal with this? should i... size for NN4.x in character units and use CSS (which NN4'll ignore) to set the width appropriately for later browsers? Sure :-) -- H* Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- hassan at webtuitive.com Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com -- creating dynamic Web sites and applications since 1994 -- From richard.bennett at skynet.be Tue Sep 3 18:17:01 2002 From: richard.bennett at skynet.be (Richard Bennett) Date: Tue Sep 3 18:17:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Perl regexp question References: <114c01c2538a$221f15d0$3a3988d9@wwwv7zwbf035xj> <20020903223203.GA2352@alice.cg.shawcable.net> Message-ID: <11fe01c2539f$b65674e0$3a3988d9@wwwv7zwbf035xj> Hi, <----- Original Message ----- Message-ID: <000201c253a0$3df7fbd0$0808810a@eagle5> > size for NN4.x in character units and use CSS (which NN4'll ignore) > to set the width appropriately for later browsers? Sure :-) Exactly. NN4 ignores inline styles, so you could do something like this: Or, you could use the @import rule, which is believe is a bit safer as far as browser compatibility goes... HTH! --Ken From mike at nthwave.net Tue Sep 3 19:03:01 2002 From: mike at nthwave.net (Michael Mell) Date: Tue Sep 3 19:03:01 2002 Subject: [thelist] Flash not working in IE6 Message-ID: <3D754D86.241160C@nthwave.net> Hi all, I have built a nifty Flash animation on my home page: http://www.nthwave.net/ (It's a "dynamic mandala") It works great. Only problem is, it doesn't work in IE6/Win at all. I'm not so concerned about this particular animation, as I am with another Flash I did for a client which suffers the same deficiency. Has anyone seen a problem playing perfectly good flash fines on IE6? know a workaround? I was unable to find anything helpful on the macromedia site. I'm using Flash MX 6.0 r25 thanks! -- mike[at]nthwave.net From lindsay at redsquare.com.au Tue Sep 3 19:09:00 2002 From: lindsay at redsquare.com.au (Lindsay Evans) Date: Tue Sep 3 19:09:00 2002 Subject: [thelist] Flash not working in IE6 In-Reply-To: <3D754D86.241160C@nthwave.net> Message-ID: > Hi all, > I have built a nifty Flash animation on my home page: > http://www.nthwave.net/ > (It's a "dynamic mandala") > It works great. Only problem is, it doesn't work in IE6/Win at all. The uses the path "images/mandala07.swf", whereas the

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