From ruimbmadeira at yahoo.com.br Mon Jan 3 05:05:20 2005 From: ruimbmadeira at yahoo.com.br (Rui Madeira) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:05:20 -0300 (ART) Subject: [thelist] Accessing URL by Coldfuson Message-ID: <20050103110520.47623.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com> I?m developing a tool to make a search in a Access DB with MapGuide and coldfusion The code it?s as below SELECT * FROM InfoSites where DTCC IN (#PreserveSingleQuotes(obj_keys)#) This connects the Access DB with the MapGuide #Descricao# #Concelho# #URL# This can show me the results conserning my choices in the MapGuide. My question is who can I turn the results in the td column URL into a link??? Must I change definition in Access DB? Can the changes be made right here in the code? It would be a lote easyer!!! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Gr?tis - Internet r?pida e gr?tis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. From mac.jordan at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 05:51:57 2005 From: mac.jordan at gmail.com (Mac Jordan) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:51:57 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Accessing URL by Coldfuson In-Reply-To: <20050103110520.47623.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050103110520.47623.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:05:20 -0300 (ART), Rui Madeira wrote: > My question is who can I turn the results in the td column URL into a link??? #URL# -- mac jordan home: www.kestrel.org work: www.webhorus.net them: www.jordan-cats.org From jabber at raditha.com Mon Jan 3 07:56:02 2005 From: jabber at raditha.com (Raditha Dissanayake) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:56:02 +0600 Subject: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K and Office 2K In-Reply-To: <70b7becb9dc54511ad513030e1e0f5f7@easylistbox.com> References: <70b7becb9dc54511ad513030e1e0f5f7@easylistbox.com> Message-ID: <41D94EF2.3000605@raditha.com> Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com) wrote: > Are you actually in Israel, or do you just have an offshore domain? I ask this because, as I understand it, there are some legal issues with bringing or sending software outside the US (where the majority of us reside). > > are you sure that the majority of people on this list are from the US? > From: Hershel Robinson hershelr at netvision.net.il > >I have purchased a new workstation and I would like to install on it Windows >2K and MS Office 2K. Before I go to Amazon and eBay I thought I would ask >here if perhaps someone has copies of these packages lying around that they >would like to sell to me at a good price. :) > >Thanks, >Hershel > > > -- Raditha Dissanayake. ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.radinks.com/print/card-designer/ | Card Designer Applet http://www.radinks.com/upload/ | Drag and Drop Upload From peter at easylistbox.com Mon Jan 3 08:52:56 2005 From: peter at easylistbox.com (Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com)) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:52:56 -0600 Subject: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K and Office 2K In-Reply-To: <41D94EF2.3000605@raditha.com> Message-ID: <001301c4f1a3$e9aa9390$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse> Actually, no, I'm not. That was a knee-jerk reaction, based on just about every other list I'm on. It would be interesting to see the numbers, though. The main point of my post was that there are software export laws in the US; I don't know about other countries, but maybe others can shed some light on that subject. -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org On Behalf Of Raditha Dissanayake Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com) wrote: > Are you actually in Israel, or do you just have an offshore domain? > I ask this because, as I understand it, there are some legal issues with bringing or sending software outside the US (where the majority of us reside). > > are you sure that the majority of people on this list are from the US? > From: Hershel Robinson hershelr at netvision.net.il > >I have purchased a new workstation and I would like to install on it >Windows 2K and MS Office 2K. Before I go to Amazon and eBay I thought I >would ask here if perhaps someone has copies of these packages lying >around that they would like to sell to me at a good price. :) > >Thanks, >Hershel From info at scribenewmedia.com Mon Jan 3 09:02:37 2005 From: info at scribenewmedia.com (Tony Grimes) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 08:02:37 -0700 Subject: [thelist] Javascript style switching help Message-ID: I've written a script that should switch a style sheet, but it only works in Safari. IE and Netscape aren't switching. Can anyone help? Here's the relevant code: function activatePrintCSS() { var i, a; for(i=0; (a = document.getElementsByTagName("link")[i]); i++) { if(a.getAttribute("rel") == "print css" && a.getAttribute("title") == "print") { a.disabled = false; document.getElementById("print-toggle").style.display = "none"; document.getElementById("print-toggle-return").style.display = "inline"; showAllDescriptions(); showHideDescriptionToggle("hide"); } } } In IE and Netscape everything is being properly executed except this expression: a.disabled = false; Here is the test site if you want to see the whole thing: http://www.tonygrimes.com/rets/ When you click on ?Print Friendly Version?, it should switch stylesheets to provide a preview for the user before they print the page. If anyone can help me out I?d really appreciate it. Tony From joshua at waetech.com Mon Jan 3 09:53:25 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:53:25 -0500 Subject: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K and Office 2K In-Reply-To: <001301c4f1a3$e9aa9390$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com) > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:53 AM > > Actually, no, I'm not. That was a knee-jerk reaction, based on > just about every other list I'm on. It would be interesting > to see the numbers, though. I'm interested in these numbers too. So much, in fact, that I'd be willing to put up a really simply four-question survey (name, email, country, state/territory/province) to collect this information for the good of the collective. Anyone opposed? <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From joel at spinhead.com Mon Jan 3 10:19:42 2005 From: joel at spinhead.com (Joel D Canfield) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:19:42 -0800 Subject: geo- and demographics (was RE: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K and Office 2K) Message-ID: <72E9FAA171D63B48AAC707C72900E6B4616F2F@ireland.spinhead.com> > I'm interested in these numbers too. So much, in fact, that > I'd be willing > to put up a really simply four-question survey (name, email, country, > state/territory/province) to collect this information for the > good of the collective. > > Anyone opposed? Put up, as in here on thelist, or put up, as in, create a web form? I'm all for the latter, not too keen on the former. joel From joshua at waetech.com Mon Jan 3 10:23:35 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:23:35 -0500 Subject: geo- and demographics (was RE: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K andOffice 2K) In-Reply-To: <72E9FAA171D63B48AAC707C72900E6B4616F2F@ireland.spinhead.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel D Canfield > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 11:20 AM > > > I'm interested in these numbers too. So much, in fact, that > > I'd be willing > > to put up a really simply four-question survey (name, > email, country, > > state/territory/province) to collect this information for the > > good of the collective. > > > > Anyone opposed? > > Put up, as in here on thelist, or put up, as in, create a web > form? I'm > all for the latter, not too keen on the former. Joel, Latter, of course. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From joshua at waetech.com Mon Jan 3 10:35:53 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:35:53 -0500 Subject: [thelist] RE: geo- and demographics In-Reply-To: <72E9FAA171D63B48AAC707C72900E6B4616F2F@ireland.spinhead.com> Message-ID: This is an unsanctioned survey, but I promise you it's not going to be abused. http://concepts.waetech.com/thelist_survey/ Thanks for participating. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From headlemur at lemurzone.com Mon Jan 3 10:40:32 2005 From: headlemur at lemurzone.com (the head lemur) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:40:32 -0700 Subject: geo- and demographics (was RE: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K andOffice 2K) References: <72E9FAA171D63B48AAC707C72900E6B4616F2F@ireland.spinhead.com> Message-ID: <001d01c4f1b2$f16f6a60$0200a8c0@ph.cox.net> latter From peter at easylistbox.com Mon Jan 3 10:42:50 2005 From: peter at easylistbox.com (Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com)) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:42:50 -0700 Subject: [thelist] re: geo- and demographics Message-ID: ???Sure, a web survey would be great... although it wouldn't be particularly scientific since we have no idea how many people would respond.? Can we get some general membership numbers from the list admin? From: "Joel D Canfield" joel at spinhead.com > I'm interested in these numbers too. So much, in fact, that > I'd be willing > to put up a really simply four-question survey (name, email, country, > state/territory/province) to collect this information for the > good of the collective. > > Anyone opposed? Put up, as in here on thelist, or put up, as in, create a web form? I'm all for the latter, not too keen on the former. joel From joshua at waetech.com Mon Jan 3 11:04:48 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:04:48 -0500 Subject: [thelist] re: geo- and demographics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com) > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 11:43 AM > > > ???Sure, a web survey would be great... although it wouldn't > be particularly scientific since we have no idea how many > people would respond.? Can we get some general membership > numbers from the list admin? One last bug fixed and it's up at: http://concepts.waetech.com/thelist_survey/ <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From fuzzylizard at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 11:52:09 2005 From: fuzzylizard at gmail.com (Chris Johnston) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 12:52:09 -0500 Subject: [thelist] RE: geo- and demographics In-Reply-To: <4738259501495862947@unknownmsgid> References: <72E9FAA171D63B48AAC707C72900E6B4616F2F@ireland.spinhead.com> <4738259501495862947@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:35:53 -0500, Joshua Olson wrote: > This is an unsanctioned survey, but I promise you it's not going to be > abused. > > http://concepts.waetech.com/thelist_survey/ > Why the need for names and email addresses if all you want is the country that we reside in? -- chris johnston www.fuzzylizard.com "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals and something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination, we learned to talk." Pink Floyd From joshua at waetech.com Mon Jan 3 12:00:57 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:00:57 -0500 Subject: [thelist] RE: geo- and demographics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Johnston > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:52 PM > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:35:53 -0500, Joshua Olson > wrote: > > This is an unsanctioned survey, but I promise you it's not > going to be > > abused. > > > > http://concepts.waetech.com/thelist_survey/ > > > > Why the need for names and email addresses if all you want is the > country that we reside in? Chris, Fair question. To check for duplication in the results and eliminate it. If you don't want to provide your name, put John Doe or something. :-) <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From joshua at waetech.com Mon Jan 3 12:19:37 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:19:37 -0500 Subject: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K and Office 2K In-Reply-To: <41D94EF2.3000605@raditha.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Raditha Dissanayake > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:56 AM > > > Are you actually in Israel, or do you just have an > offshore domain? I ask this because, as I understand it, > there are some legal issues with bringing or sending software > outside the US (where the majority of us reside). > > > > > are you sure that the majority of people on this list are from the US? Based on the handful of respondents, the majority of the people on this list appear to be from the US. Of course, the results are preliminary. Chime in here: http://concepts.waetech.com/thelist_survey/ <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From peter at easylistbox.com Mon Jan 3 12:50:46 2005 From: peter at easylistbox.com (Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com)) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 11:50:46 -0700 Subject: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K and Office 2K Message-ID: <0b4eb324e880427bb8809c3899f16750@easylistbox.com> ???It'll be interesting to see the results tomorrow morning since most people in Europe and Asia have already gone home for the day. From: "Joshua Olson" joshua at waetech.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Raditha Dissanayake > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:56 AM > > > Are you actually in Israel, or do you just have an > offshore domain? I ask this because, as I understand it, > there are some legal issues with bringing or sending software > outside the US (where the majority of us reside). > > > > > are you sure that the majority of people on this list are from the US? Based on the handful of respondents, the majority of the people on this list appear to be from the US. Of course, the results are preliminary. Chime in here: http://concepts.waetech.com/thelist_survey/ <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From hershelr at netvision.net.il Mon Jan 3 13:01:26 2005 From: hershelr at netvision.net.il (Hershel Robinson) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 14:01:26 -0500 Subject: [thelist] International Electricity Message-ID: <005f01c4f1c6$a0f6e450$0300000a@hershel2000> Speaking of internationality, I would like to buy this product: Netopia 3387W-ENT Cable/DSL Wireless Router and use it at times in Israel. The electricity here is 220/50 however. I already use step-down transformers for a few other appliances, but these transformers, as far as I know, only change the voltage to 110, they don't change the amperage. Those appliances I do have appear to be working just fine. I emailed Netopia once to ask them if this should work with their product and they responded with a question to which I responded but they didn't then respond. I wrote them again now. I am having trouble purchasing the product with the correct power supply (wall wort) so I am looking at purchasing a regular US version and running it on a transformer. Anyone have any input or knowledge if this should be OK? Thanks, Hershel From peter at easylistbox.com Mon Jan 3 16:23:34 2005 From: peter at easylistbox.com (Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com)) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:23:34 -0600 Subject: [thelist] International Electricity In-Reply-To: <005f01c4f1c6$a0f6e450$0300000a@hershel2000> Message-ID: <003001c4f1e2$dd687590$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse> Current (measured in amps) is about how much you *can* pass through a circuit, not how much *must* pass through. Basically, if you have a 20-ampere circuit, you can put devices on it which together have a total draw of 20 amps. If your devices draw more, then you will blow a fuse or trip a circuit breaker (or at least you *should*, because if you don't you're probably going to melt a wire or start a fire). Are you sure the 50 isn't Hertz? I've never seen a second number in an electricity spec before. -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org On Behalf Of Hershel Robinson Speaking of internationality, I would like to buy this product: Netopia 3387W-ENT Cable/DSL Wireless Router and use it at times in Israel. The electricity here is 220/50 however. I already use step-down transformers for a few other appliances, but these transformers, as far as I know, only change the voltage to 110, they don't change the amperage. Those appliances I do have appear to be working just fine. I emailed Netopia once to ask them if this should work with their product and they responded with a question to which I responded but they didn't then respond. I wrote them again now. I am having trouble purchasing the product with the correct power supply (wall wort) so I am looking at purchasing a regular US version and running it on a transformer. Anyone have any input or knowledge if this should be OK? Thanks, Hershel From chris at lwcdial.net Mon Jan 3 16:43:25 2005 From: chris at lwcdial.net (Chris Hayes) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:43:25 -0000 Subject: [thelist] International Electricity References: <005f01c4f1c6$a0f6e450$0300000a@hershel2000> Message-ID: <001501c4f1e5$a5d808e0$152ca8c0@CHILLI> To the best of my knowledge you shouldn't have any trouble if you get any EU rated appliance working from 200-250Volts. The appliance itself should be able to regulate the DC voltage it needs from that. "Amperage" is dependant on the how much power the appliance draws. It has little to do with transformers, except for the maximum current they, and the rest of the circuit can operate at. If you must purchase from the US ?!? They should surely have "Rest of the World" capable versions of the product. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hershel Robinson" To: "Thelist (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:01 PM Subject: [thelist] International Electricity > Speaking of internationality, I would like to buy this product: > > Netopia 3387W-ENT Cable/DSL Wireless Router > > and use it at times in Israel. The electricity here is 220/50 however. I > already use step-down transformers for a few other appliances, but these > transformers, as far as I know, only change the voltage to 110, they don't > change the amperage. Those appliances I do have appear to be working just > fine. > > I emailed Netopia once to ask them if this should work with their product > and they responded with a question to which I responded but they didn't then > respond. I wrote them again now. > > I am having trouble purchasing the product with the correct power supply > (wall wort) so I am looking at purchasing a regular US version and running > it on a transformer. > > Anyone have any input or knowledge if this should be OK? > > Thanks, > Hershel > > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 30/12/2004 From roselli at earthlink.net Mon Jan 3 16:48:57 2005 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:48:57 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [thelist] Serializing SQL calls to AS/400 via ODBC Message-ID: <19416590.1104792538220.JavaMail.root@kermit.psp.pas.earthlink.net> i have an intranet project that uses an AS/400 database as the data store for the system... i have to select, update, and insert data... i am using the iSeries Client Access ODBC Driver to access this AS/400 system... however, when i try to serialize, or string together, more than one SQL statement it throws an error... example error: Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e14' [IBM][iSeries Access ODBC Driver][DB2 UDB]SQL0104 - Token ; was not valid. Valid tokens: . the examples we've found online don't work, and we can't find any detail of this happening to anyone else... has anyone heard of anything like this? From ldt_thor at shaw.ca Mon Jan 3 17:20:37 2005 From: ldt_thor at shaw.ca (Thor Systems Inc) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:20:37 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Radio buttons not printing - Win XP Message-ID: Hello evolters, Having trouble with radio buttons not being printed out when using Windows XP. When the "feature" is checked in IE 6 - 'enable visual styles on buttons and controls in web pages' the radio buttons won't print out on a printer. I tried adding a print css style sheet, meaning media="print" . input {color:black;} (this works fine for input text - I tested other colours) and also tried input.radio {color: #000000; background: #FFFFFF;} But the radio buttons are still not printing - and are green on the gray bkg. Mind you my body html at this point is just basic and using HTML 4.0 Transitional Does anyone know of a work around? Is there a pseudo class that will just apply to the radio buttons? Thanks, Linda From plantboy at gmail.com Mon Jan 3 17:41:07 2005 From: plantboy at gmail.com (cody h) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 15:41:07 -0800 Subject: [thelist] CSS expert opinion needed In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20050102122951.020e9a48@mx.delime.com> References: <20050102140930.81698.qmail@web50106.mail.yahoo.com> <4.2.0.58.20050102122951.020e9a48@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: <32070832050103154125776178@mail.gmail.com> there is also a site which you (or your rather uninformed css coder) may find very helpful for creating standard layouts like this. the guy who made it up is a very competent xhtml/css coder and he has created a bunch of layout templates for use by people such as yourself. i am fairly sure your layout conforms to one of them. http://www.cssdev.com/resources.php also, you could refer your developer or yourself to http://www.alistapart.com/ for more info about making multiple column layouts. here is an article you may find useful. there are others as well and in general a list apart is a great web developer resource. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ good luck. if you do decide to look for another developer to work on this i would be interested. drop me an email off the list. cody On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:32:16 -0400, M. Seyon wrote: > Message from klute (1/2/2005 10:09 AM) > >Hello All, > > > >My CSS-for-layout knowldedge is not extensive and i > >was hping you can give me an advice here. Here is the > >template that someone is coding in XHTML for me: > >http://www.devbistro.com/webdesignfirms/dev/template.jpg > > You *have* noticed the typo in the header right? > "WebDesingFirms.org"? > > Best advice, learn yourself CSS fast. Here's a good place to start > http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/boxes.html > > regards. > -marc > > -- > Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com > http://www.playyuhself.com/ > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > From Anthony at Baratta.com Mon Jan 3 17:59:30 2005 From: Anthony at Baratta.com (Anthony Baratta) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 15:59:30 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Serializing SQL calls to AS/400 via ODBC In-Reply-To: <19416590.1104792538220.JavaMail.root@kermit.psp.pas.earthl ink.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050103155523.06fc0238@maditalian.baratta.com> At 02:48 PM 1/3/2005, aardvark wrote: >Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e14' >[IBM][iSeries Access ODBC Driver][DB2 UDB]SQL0104 - Token ; was not valid. >Valid tokens: . > >the examples we've found online don't work, and we can't find any detail >of this happening to anyone else... I did a quick google and the examples I see don't have ";" as an end of statement. Maybe it just needs a carriage return/line feed? e.g. insert into table (,,,) values (,,,) insert into table (,,,) values (,,,) insert into table (,,,) values (,,,) insert into table (,,,) values (,,,) ???? From roselli at earthlink.net Mon Jan 3 18:46:21 2005 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 19:46:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [thelist] Serializing SQL calls to AS/400 via ODBC Message-ID: <23547437.1104799582003.JavaMail.root@huey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> (sorry for the bad quoting, i'm on web mail...) nup, that dinna do it... sadly i'm away from the server, but i'll try tomorrow and let y'all know what i do find.... if anything... but guesses still welcome! -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Baratta At 02:48 PM 1/3/2005, aardvark wrote: >Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e14' >[IBM][iSeries Access ODBC Driver][DB2 UDB]SQL0104 - Token ; was not valid. >Valid tokens: . > >the examples we've found online don't work, and we can't find any detail >of this happening to anyone else... I did a quick google and the examples I see don't have ";" as an end of statement. Maybe it just needs a carriage return/line feed? e.g. insert into table (,,,) values (,,,) insert into table (,,,) values (,,,) insert into table (,,,) values (,,,) insert into table (,,,) values (,,,) ???? From soundres9 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 18:58:28 2005 From: soundres9 at yahoo.com (klute) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 16:58:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] CSS expert opinion needed In-Reply-To: <32070832050103154125776178@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050104005828.27668.qmail@web50106.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks to all who replied! cody, your link is very helpful. this is the exact layout i need: it does use absolute positioning for the right nav section however: http://www.cssdev.com/csslayouts/vertical/two_column/fluid_right.htm the page states however: All of these templates are hack free and have been tested on IE 5+ Win/Mac, Opera 6+, Firefox 0.8+ and Konqueror. so i am tempted to just copy the template (rather have my coder copy it). james --- cody h wrote: > there is also a site which you (or your rather > uninformed css coder) > may find very helpful for creating standard layouts > like this. the > guy who made it up is a very competent xhtml/css > coder and he has > created a bunch of layout templates for use by > people such as > yourself. i am fairly sure your layout conforms to > one of them. > > http://www.cssdev.com/resources.php > > also, you could refer your developer or yourself to > http://www.alistapart.com/ for more info about > making multiple column > layouts. here is an article you may find useful. > there are others as > well and in general a list apart is a great web > developer resource. > > http://www.alistapart.com/articles/negativemargins/ > > good luck. if you do decide to look for another > developer to work on > this i would be interested. drop me an email off > the list. > > cody > > On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:32:16 -0400, M. Seyon > wrote: > > Message from klute (1/2/2005 10:09 AM) > > >Hello All, > > > > > >My CSS-for-layout knowldedge is not extensive and > i > > >was hping you can give me an advice here. Here is > the > > >template that someone is coding in XHTML for me: > > > >http://www.devbistro.com/webdesignfirms/dev/template.jpg > > > > You *have* noticed the typo in the header right? > > "WebDesingFirms.org"? > > > > Best advice, learn yourself CSS fast. Here's a > good place to start > > > http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/boxes.html > > > > regards. > > -marc > > > > -- > > Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. > Playyuhself.com > > http://www.playyuhself.com/ > > -- > > > > * * Please support the community that supports > you. * * > > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the > Tip Harvester > > and archives of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org > > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > > > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. > * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip > Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dianesoini at earthlink.net Mon Jan 3 20:21:34 2005 From: dianesoini at earthlink.net (Diane Soini) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:21:34 -0800 Subject: [thelist] CSS expert opinion needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5A7E1F5A-5DF7-11D9-AD47-00039358CB42@earthlink.net> On Sunday, January 2, 2005, at 09:34 PM, thelist-request at lists.evolt.org wrote: > RE: CSS expert opinion needed Since you are relying on somebody else to do your coding you are limited by his capabilities. The best way to code is to code to the standard, then go back and tweak/add hacks to support buggy/quirky browsers (if you wish). There is no reason you cannot support every browser, including IE 5 on Mac. Your coder just needs to evaluate why he's using the techniques he's chosen. Can it be done another way that is better supported by more browsers? Or is that the only way he knows how to do it? I believe IE Mac does support absolute positioning, by the way. From email at timburgan.com Mon Jan 3 20:32:11 2005 From: email at timburgan.com (Tim Burgan) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:02:11 +1030 Subject: [thelist] [OT - MS Word] How do I display text hyperlinks as footnotes Message-ID: <41DA002B.4080504@timburgan.com> Hello, Can someone please help me. I have many Word documents containing text hyperlinks where the URL is not displayed. How can I easily make these hyperlink's URLs to display as footnotes? Does this need to be done with a macro? Thanks for your time Tim Burgan From Ken at adOpenStatic.com Mon Jan 3 20:59:47 2005 From: Ken at adOpenStatic.com (Ken Schaefer) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:59:47 +1100 Subject: [thelist] [OT - MS Word] How do I display text hyperlinks asfootnotes Message-ID: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EEFEB@kjserver1.kjhome.local> My initial thought would be Office Automation (via a macro or something). See if the document has a hyperlinks collection (or similar), and if so it'd have a property for the URL, and then you could append it to the footnotes collection. That said, isn't the URL displayed if you hover the mouse over the hyperlink? That said, (and I've said this many times) you're probably (almost certainly) going to get a better answer from a dedicated support group. OTOH I can only recommend the MS Word newsgroups, but there are some very knowledgeable people there. Cheers Ken : -----Original Message----- : From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On : Behalf Of Tim Burgan : Sent: Tuesday, 4 January 2005 1:32 PM : To: [thelist] thelist at lists.evolt.org : Subject: [thelist] [OT - MS Word] How do I display text hyperlinks asfootnotes : : I have many Word documents containing text hyperlinks where the URL is : not displayed. How can I easily make these hyperlink's URLs to display : as footnotes? : : Does this need to be done with a macro? From john_walker2002 at hotmail.com Mon Jan 3 22:56:22 2005 From: john_walker2002 at hotmail.com (John Walker) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2005 23:56:22 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Signtool 1.1 anyone have it Message-ID: All - Any chance someone has signtool 1.1? I did have it and didn't follow the golden rule of making a system backup. Needless to say...my HD crashed right before Christmas and there was no saving it. And for anyone wondering yes, I did say signtool 1.1 I am working on a project that requires the use of Netscape 4.79. So unless someone out there can tell me for certain that signtool 1.3 will work, I am forced to find 1.1. developer.netscape.com has apparently been shut down and so far every reference I find is linked back to this site. While I am here asking let me throw something else out there for everyone. As stated earlier I am working against NS 4.79. I personally have never used signtool prior to this project so this leads to my next question and assistance request. Does anyone happen to have a working example of how this thing should work? Before losing all my work and test files I was attempting to figure it out. I was able to do the following: 1. Create a test cert for signing purposes 2. Sign & Jar a .js file 3. Created a html file that accessed the .js file within the jar file The problems arose when I attempted to set security permissions. I tested that the html file could get to a simple "hello world" via alert function within the .js file --- worked fine When I attempted to enable security permissions this failed. Checking the javascript console I got an error msg stating that the user had not granted the required permission. Though I was never prompted and was assuming that having 'signed' the js file it should have done something. I know this may seem like a lot of nothing and I am hoping to get back to where I was in my testing at that time I can send/post more detailed information. ANY AND ALL!!! HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED From hershelr at netvision.net.il Tue Jan 4 01:06:04 2005 From: hershelr at netvision.net.il (Hershel Robinson) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 02:06:04 -0500 Subject: [thelist] International Electricity In-Reply-To: <003001c4f1e2$dd687590$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse> Message-ID: <000a01c4f22b$dbcf7be0$0300000a@hershel2000> > If you must purchase from the US ?!? They should surely have "Rest of > the World" capable versions of the product. They do. I just haven't found this particular product in such a version yet. > Are you sure the 50 isn't Hertz? I've never seen a second > number in an electricity spec before. Oh, right. 50 is Hertz. My high school electronics class is fading fast... Netopia finally responded. They should it should work fine, and they also suggested I try other dealers in Europe, like in France maybe. Thanks. From kristian at zimmer428.net Tue Jan 4 01:32:41 2005 From: kristian at zimmer428.net (Kristian Rink) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:32:41 +0100 Subject: [thelist] Hello. :) Message-ID: <20050104083241.0b81f57d@node428> Hi there; being new to that list, so just wanted to quickly introduce myself: I'm Kristian, aged 27 and living in Dresden, Germany, currently being both network administrator / web designer / "tech guy" in a mid-sized company providing specialised digital services for communication and document archival related to larger building projects. By now, being familiar with administration of most (unix-based) web-related server software, I am getting into the depths of (x)html and css also to get our web-based appearance visually a little more appealing. :) I'm using GNU/Linux, and web development tool of my choice is Quanta. Hope to learn something on that list. :) Cheers & take care, Kris From Brian at hondaswap.com Tue Jan 4 14:01:37 2005 From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:01:37 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP Message-ID: <41DAF621.6050904@hondaswap.com> i need some quick help, please answer as soon as you can if you have any ideas. i have a query which is simple- select * from blah where blah = 1 and isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 1 which works great. however, the opposite is killing me. i cannot figure out a way to query on the non-numeric data. The table/program is set up so that numbers 0-100 are positive responses, and any alpha text is a refusal. any ideas? anyone have an isalpha() function they can share? again, this is ms sql server 2000. thanks in advance. From MCollins at seminolecountyfl.gov Tue Jan 4 14:32:49 2005 From: MCollins at seminolecountyfl.gov (MCollins at seminolecountyfl.gov) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:32:49 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP In-Reply-To: <41DAF621.6050904@hondaswap.com> Message-ID: perhaps "isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 0"? i need some quick help, please answer as soon as you can if you have any ideas. i have a query which is simple- select * from blah where blah = 1 and isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 1 which works great. however, the opposite is killing me. i cannot figure out a way to query on the non-numeric data. The table/program is set up so that numbers 0-100 are positive responses, and any alpha text is a refusal. any ideas? anyone have an isalpha() function they can share? again, this is ms sql server 2000. thanks in advance. -- --****Florida has a very broad Public Records Law. Virtually all written communications to or from State and Local Officials and employees are public records available to the public and media upon request. Seminole County policy does not differentiate between personal and business emails. 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DeMorgan's Laws: NOT (A and B) = NOT(A) or NOT(B) So, try this: select * from blah where blah != 1 or isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) != 1 or, equivalently: select * from blah where blah != 1 or isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 0 That is the opposite, but you will have to think for a minute whether you actually want the opposite, and not something like this: select * from blah where blah != 1 and isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 0 (note the and) More here about formal logic, if you're interested: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=demorgan%27s+law hope this helps, -- Matt Warden Miami University Oxford, OH http://mattwarden.com This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy. From Brian at hondaswap.com Tue Jan 4 14:40:57 2005 From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:40:57 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41DAFF59.7060608@hondaswap.com> MCollins at seminolecountyfl.gov wrote: > perhaps "isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 0"? won't work 100%... abc123 and the such will skew the results. tried that one already :p From mwarden at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 14:48:50 2005 From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:48:50 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP In-Reply-To: <41DAFF59.7060608@hondaswap.com> References: <41DAFF59.7060608@hondaswap.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:40:57 -0500, Brian Cummiskey wrote: > MCollins at seminolecountyfl.gov wrote: > > perhaps "isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 0"? > > won't work 100%... > > abc123 and the such will skew the results. tried that one already :p Well then it is not clear what you are trying to do. Do you wish for strings like 'abc123' to be included or excluded? Because it seems like you are not actually looking for the opposite, can you give a clearer idea of what you mean by the opposite of the original query? By the way, I failed to mention before that you can pretty much always just do this: select * from blah where NOT (blah = 1 and isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 1) -- Matt Warden Miami University Oxford, OH http://mattwarden.com This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy. From Brian at hondaswap.com Tue Jan 4 14:55:11 2005 From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:55:11 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP In-Reply-To: References: <41DAF621.6050904@hondaswap.com> Message-ID: <41DB02AF.3070006@hondaswap.com> Matt Warden wrote: > > select * from blah > where blah != 1 > and isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 0 > > (note the and) that's not going to work either. the "blah !=1" is pretty much unrelated to the "and" part of the query, so i can't turn it around like that. This is what i've come up with so far that gets me the closest... select * from blah where foo = bar and PersonalIdentifier NOT IN( select distinct(personalidentifier) from blah where isnumeric(personalidentifier) = 1) but im still off by about 5-8% of my expected result set. From joshua at waetech.com Tue Jan 4 14:55:14 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:55:14 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP In-Reply-To: <41DAF621.6050904@hondaswap.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Cummiskey > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:02 PM > > anyone have an isalpha() function they can share? > > again, this is ms sql server 2000. With a bit of effort, you can use Regex in SQL Server 2k. http://www.sqlteam.com/item.asp?ItemID=13947 >From there, almost anything is possible. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 > > thanks in advance. > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > From edwin at bitstorm.org Tue Jan 4 14:56:16 2005 From: edwin at bitstorm.org (Edwin Martin) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:56:16 +0100 Subject: [thelist] Signtool 1.1 anyone have it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41DB02F0.7010604@bitstorm.org> John Walker wrote: > And for anyone wondering yes, I did say signtool 1.1 I am working on > a project that requires the use of Netscape 4.79. So unless someone > out there can tell me for certain that signtool 1.3 will work, I am > forced to find 1.1. I used Signing tool 1.3 with Netscape 4.x without problems. (Signing Java applets). Edwin Martin -- http://www.bitstorm.org/ From Brian at hondaswap.com Tue Jan 4 15:07:45 2005 From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:07:45 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP In-Reply-To: References: <41DAFF59.7060608@hondaswap.com> Message-ID: <41DB05A1.3070606@hondaswap.com> Matt Warden wrote: > > Well then it is not clear what you are trying to do. the personalIdentifier field contains either a numeric code 01 through 52 and denotes a positive response, or a text string such as "refused", "not given", etc, but is entirely data-entry fill in, so it can be any combination there in, and typos galore, making it impossible to query on a set set of words Do you wish for > strings like 'abc123' to be included or excluded? Because it seems > like you are not actually looking for the opposite, can you give a > clearer idea of what you mean by the opposite of the original query? > the original code was: and personalidentifier in ('refused', 'rpq') OR, for the opposite, and personalidentifier not in ('refused', 'rpq') and then they changed it to a fill-in against my opinion, and sh*@ hit the fan. lol its unclear because my query is so huge. this is an abridged version of the actual query, 02 being the one that needs alphas, and 07 being the one that needs numerics: @startdate and @endaate are passed in via the stored procedure/asp //start declare @uCnt float select @uCnt = count(*) from IK4342A where i3_rowid in (select i3_rowid from IK4342A_callhistory where reason in ('success', 'failure') group by i3_rowid having max(calldate) between @startdate + ' 00:00:00' and @enddate + ' 23:59:59' ) and status = 'u' select * from ( select '02' as 'NO', 'LABEL - W/ FAX' AS 'ACTIVITY', cast(count(*) as int) as 'DISPOSITION', case when @uCnt = 0 then 'Sorry, no records' else cast((convert(decimal(10,2), ((count(*)/@uCnt) * 100))) as varchar) + '%' end as 'PERCENT' from IK4342A where i3_rowid in (select i3_rowid from IK4342A_callhistory where reason in ('success', 'failure') group by i3_rowid having max(calldate) between @startdate + ' 00:00:00' and @enddate + ' 23:59:59' ) and resultcode = 'SUB' and companyfax_new NOT IN('', 'NONE') and ReplacementNameIndicator <> 'Y' and i3_rowid not like 'x%' and PersonalIdentifier NOT IN( select distinct(personalidentifier) from IK4342A where isnumeric(personalidentifier) = 1) and email_new IN('', 'NONE') union ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- select '07' as 'NO', 'RPQ - W/ E-MAIL' AS 'ACTIVITY', cast(count(*) as int) as 'DISPOSITION', case when @uCnt = 0 then 'Sorry, no records' else cast((convert(decimal(10,2), ((count(*)/@uCnt) * 100))) as varchar) + '%' end as 'PERCENT' from IK4342A where i3_rowid in (select i3_rowid from IK4342A_callhistory where reason in ('success', 'failure') group by i3_rowid having max(calldate) between @startdate + ' 00:00:00' and @enddate + ' 23:59:59' ) and resultcode = 'SUB' and email_new NOT IN('', 'NONE') and ReplacementNameIndicator <> 'Y' and isnumeric(PersonalIdentifier) = 1 and i3_rowid not like 'x%' ) as t order by [NO] asc // end and did i mention there's 52 unions? lol the program was made horribly. and i'm not the one who made it. But, the accountants are basing their billing off this report, so it needs to be dead on, and i just can't get it to match my total resultcode = 'SUB' quantity. This is basically a split-out of that resultcode based on certain parameters, like email given, fax not given, email not given, fax given, if a secretary signed off for them or not, and so forth. From vlad.alexander at xstandard.com Tue Jan 4 15:23:29 2005 From: vlad.alexander at xstandard.com (Vlad Alexander (XStandard)) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:23:29 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Signtool 1.1 anyone have it Message-ID: Hi Edwin, Do you have the step-by-step instructions on how to do this? Do you think this will work on XPI files for Mozilla/Firefox? Regards, -Vlad http://xstandard.com Standards-compliant XHTML WYSIWYG editor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edwin Martin" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [thelist] Signtool 1.1 anyone have it > John Walker wrote: > >> And for anyone wondering yes, I did say signtool 1.1 I am working on >> a project that requires the use of Netscape 4.79. So unless someone >> out there can tell me for certain that signtool 1.3 will work, I am >> forced to find 1.1. > > I used Signing tool 1.3 with Netscape 4.x without problems. (Signing > Java applets). > > Edwin Martin > > -- > http://www.bitstorm.org/ > > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > From Brian at hondaswap.com Tue Jan 4 15:19:03 2005 From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:19:03 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP Message-ID: <41DB0847.7090605@hondaswap.com> Joshua Olson wrote: > With a bit of effort, you can use Regex in SQL Server 2k. > > http://www.sqlteam.com/item.asp?ItemID=13947 > >>From there, almost anything is possible. i'd love to, but i simply don't have the time to make one, not to mention, i'm not good with them in the first place. i have 2 hours before this program runs or i'm up the creek!! From joshua at waetech.com Tue Jan 4 15:25:08 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:25:08 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP In-Reply-To: <41DB0847.7090605@hondaswap.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Cummiskey > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:19 PM > > Joshua Olson wrote: > > > With a bit of effort, you can use Regex in SQL Server 2k. > > > > http://www.sqlteam.com/item.asp?ItemID=13947 > > > >>From there, almost anything is possible. > > i'd love to, but i simply don't have the time to make one, not to > mention, i'm not good with them in the first place. i have 2 hours > before this program runs or i'm up the creek!! Brian, Regex's are not that hard, really. What's missing from this problem is a COMPREHENSIVE list of string patterns you are trying to match. From there, assume everything else is a non-match. I'm sure we can come up with an appropriate Regex given the collective brainpower of this group. Then you can spend time installing the UDF. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From Brian at hondaswap.com Tue Jan 4 15:32:00 2005 From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:32:00 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP Message-ID: <41DB0B50.8020904@hondaswap.com> Joshua Olson wrote: >>-----Original Message----- > > > Brian, > > Regex's are not that hard, really. What's missing from this problem is a > COMPREHENSIVE list of string patterns you are trying to match. From there, > assume everything else is a non-match. I'm sure we can come up with an > appropriate Regex given the collective brainpower of this group. Then you > can spend time installing the UDF. > a quick select distinct yeilds: NULL "april" (RPQ)PHONEDISC. 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 ADDISABBDA AFganastan AFRAICA Africa alberta ALBERTA CAN. ALBERTA CANADA ALEXANDRA,EGYPT another country ARGENTINA armainia ARMENYH ASIA australia AUSTRIA banglabesh BANGLADESH BARBADOS BEIJING BELARUS BELARUZ Belgium BELISE Beliz BERIEVES BOMBAY bosnia brazil BULGARIA canada canda CARACA CARACAS cassablanka central america chaina CHEK REPUBLIC CHILE chili chilie CHINA COLUMBIA costa rica country cuba Czech Republic Czekslovakia dc denin denmark DHAKA BANGLADES did not give different state ELSALVADOR ELSOLVEDOR England ERITREA etheopia ethiopia ethopia europe FEB fiji fiji islands finland FRANCE GAUM german germania germany germay germeny greece grinich GUAM guatemala GUYANA Guyana Sth Amer Haiti HATTI Hawaii hawii HOLLAND hong kong hong kong,china hung up HUNGARY hungry ILDORF ILL inda india indonesia indoniesia irag IRAN ireland IRIN Isreal Italy JAMACIA Jamaica jamica January japan JOHNSON, JAPAN Jordan june karea kenya koera KOREA LIBERIA Lithuania LONDON London England long island macedonia Malaysia MANATOBA,CANADA manstoll MASAYE mAY MEXICO mexico city Milasia MINASGERIAS BRZ MONTREAL neitherlands nepal netherlands NEW MEXICO nicaraga NICARAGUA Nicargua nicoragua nigera NIGERIA NORTH KOREA norway not in the us ontario ONTARIO CANADA other country out of country OUT OF US over seas overseas pacastan pakastan Pakistan PAKISTON Panama Paris France paris, france paris,france pertugal peru Philipines PHILLIPENS phillipines Phillippines poland poreto reco Portirico PR Puero Rico puerto rico Pueto Rico QUEBEC quebec, canada REBUTA REF REFUSE REFUSED romania rpq rufused Russia said no santa barningo Saupaulo Scotland SCOTTLAND SCOUL SOUTH KOR SEAUL seria SHAWGHAI SHRILANKA INDIA singapoor singapore SOFIA SOUTH AFRICA South America SOUTH KOREA Soviet Union sovietunion SPAIN SRI LANKA SWEADEN SWEDEN sweeden switzerland taca taiwaan taiwan Taiwon TAWAIN Tehran THAILAND thiland tiawain TIAWAN tiland TIWAIN tiwan tokyo Toronto Canada Trinidad Turkey tyon tywann UGANDA ugonda UK ukraine ukrane United Kingdom UZDEKSTAM Veitnam VENESUALA VENEZUALA VENZUALA VIET NAM vietnam wales washington dc ZAIRE by quick look, you can see the variations in the refusals. it's amazing how poor of spellers the agents are. REF REFUSE REFUSED rpq rufused said no are the main ones, but who's to say tomorrow, an agent won't typo another into something else? I just don't see it being a plausible answer to the problem. From joshua at waetech.com Tue Jan 4 15:48:31 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:48:31 -0500 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP In-Reply-To: <41DB0B50.8020904@hondaswap.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Cummiskey > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:32 PM > > a quick select distinct yeilds: > > > NULL > > "april" > (RPQ)PHONEDISC. > > by quick look, you can see the variations in the refusals. > it's amazing how poor of spellers the agents are. > > REF > REFUSE > REFUSED > rpq > rufused > said no > > are the main ones, but who's to say tomorrow, an agent won't typo > another into something else? I just don't see it being a plausible > answer to the problem. What does this selection of information have to do with the original post, which was regarding the use of IsNumeric? Anyways... If they have the option to enter anything they want and it means refused, then you are SOL using this technique. Perhaps you're best bet, at this point, would be to add a boolean field indicating refusal and initiate them all to the state meaning "not refused". Then, start running updates until you've flagged all the refusals appropriately. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From jtsage at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 15:55:55 2005 From: jtsage at gmail.com (Jonathan T. Sage) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:55:55 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Help with mod_rewrite Message-ID: <8403ca67050104135542d67271@mail.gmail.com> Hello - hoping someone is a mod_rewrtie guru, because I can't figure out what I'm doing exctally - Old url: http://host/Academics/TheatreArchive/Last, First New url: http://host/Academics/TheatreArchive/Last_First any help would be great, thanks much! ~j -- Jonathan T. Sage Theatrical Lighting / Set Designer Professional Web Design [HTTP://www.JTSage.com] [HTTP://design.JTSage.com] [jtsage at gmail.com] From iain at hairydog.co.uk Tue Jan 4 16:23:27 2005 From: iain at hairydog.co.uk (Iain Harrison) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:23:27 +0000 Subject: [thelist] IE Service Pack Updates v Full Browsers In-Reply-To: <002601c4f0c3$17f15f40$230110ac@gateway.2wire.net> References: <4.2.0.58.20050101151940.02088ed8@mx.delime.com> <002601c4f0c3$17f15f40$230110ac@gateway.2wire.net> Message-ID: <377861037.20050104222327@hairydog.co.uk> Hello MedStarWriter, Sunday, January 2, 2005, 12:03:37 PM, you wrote: > Please indicate a TRUSTED source where I could find more information about > these browsers and download them (without worrying about getting nasties). > Are these browsers freeware or shareware? Opera from www.opera.com Firefox from www.mozilla.com > Also, I'd be interested in learning about a good shell replacement utility > for Windows Me. You can use whatever you like as the Windows shell. You could probably use notepad.exe, but I'd not recommend it! I wonder if you are asking about a file management replacement, rather than a shell replacement. > Windows Explorer (EXPLORER.EXE) gets corrupted far too > easily, I've never seen it happen, but I'd not let ME near any computer I hadd control of. Couldn't you upgrade it to the previous version, Windows 98SE ? > and it is integrated with Internet Explorer (IEXPLORE.EXE). No it isn't. -- Best regards, Iain mailto:iain at hairydog.co.uk From edwin at bitstorm.org Tue Jan 4 16:49:07 2005 From: edwin at bitstorm.org (Edwin Martin) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:49:07 +0100 Subject: [thelist] Signtool 1.1 anyone have it In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41DB1D63.2020606@bitstorm.org> Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: >Do you have the step-by-step instructions on how to do this? Do you think this will work on XPI files for Mozilla/Firefox? > > When you have imported the certificate in Netscape 4, you can use these commando's (this is what I use): H:\java\jdk1.3\bin\javac -classpath "H:\Program Files\Netscape\Communicator\Program\java\classes\java40.jar" -d signdir MyProgram.java H:\java\jdk1.3\bin\jar cvf "myjar.jar" signdir signtool\signtool -d "H:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\e_j_martin" -k "My Certificate" -b tweety -Z myjar.jar signdir Ofcourse, you have to replace the paths and filenames by your own paths and filenames. I found this link with Google with an article about the signing tool: http://www.developer.com/java/other/article.php/605641 I don't know if this will work with XPI files. Edwin Martin >>>And for anyone wondering yes, I did say signtool 1.1 I am working on >>>a project that requires the use of Netscape 4.79. So unless someone >>>out there can tell me for certain that signtool 1.3 will work, I am >>>forced to find 1.1. >>> >>> >>I used Signing tool 1.3 with Netscape 4.x without problems. (Signing >>Java applets). >> >>Edwin Martin >> >>-- >>http://www.bitstorm.org/ >> >>-- >> >>* * Please support the community that supports you. * * >>http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ >> >>For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester >>and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org >>Workers of the Web, evolt ! >> >> >> > > > > > -- http://www.bitstorm.org/ From email at timburgan.com Tue Jan 4 17:01:15 2005 From: email at timburgan.com (Tim Burgan) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:31:15 +1030 Subject: [thelist] [OT - MS Word] How do I display text hyperlinks asfootnotes In-Reply-To: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EEFEB@kjserver1.kjhome.local> References: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EEFEB@kjserver1.kjhome.local> Message-ID: <41DB203B.4010704@timburgan.com> Hello Ken, Ken Schaefer wrote: > [...] > That said, (and I've said this many times) you're probably (almost > certainly) > going to get a better answer from a dedicated support group. OTOH I > can only > recommend the MS Word newsgroups, but there are some very knowledgeable > people there. Thank you for taking the time to reply. I'll try the newsgroups. Regards Tim From peter at easylistbox.com Tue Jan 4 17:07:03 2005 From: peter at easylistbox.com (Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com)) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:07:03 -0700 Subject: [thelist] IE Service Pack Updates v Full Browsers Message-ID: <1fc654e2f6d846d48d6513b757d20bad@easylistbox.com> ???I'd wondered about the "trusted source" part where Firefox is concerned; how well do they screen these mirror sites that host the installer? ???I just tried the download and it sent me to some .edu domain.? Subsequent attempts gave me many different sites --?none of which sound familiar -- including half a dozen random domains from around the world and several servers which were only identified by bare IP addresses... which should be a bit unsettling to anyone with more than a few months' internet experience. ???Hopefully someone can speak to this issue; FF is a cool browser and all, but the hosting situation seems like it could invite some serious problems if someone felt the urge. Cheers, Peter From: Iain Harrison iain at hairydog.co.uk Hello MedStarWriter, Sunday, January 2, 2005, 12:03:37 PM, you wrote: > Please indicate a TRUSTED source where I could find more information about > these browsers and download them (without worrying about getting nasties). > Are these browsers freeware or shareware? Opera from www.opera.com Firefox from www.mozilla.com > Also, I'd be interested in learning about a good shell replacement utility > for Windows Me. You can use whatever you like as the Windows shell. You could probably use notepad.exe, but I'd not recommend it! I wonder if you are asking about a file management replacement, rather than a shell replacement. > Windows Explorer (EXPLORER.EXE) gets corrupted far too > easily, I've never seen it happen, but I'd not let ME near any computer I hadd control of. Couldn't you upgrade it to the previous version, Windows 98SE ? > and it is integrated with Internet Explorer (IEXPLORE.EXE). No it isn't. -- Best regards, Iain mailto:iain at hairydog.co.uk From diane at dianesoini.com Tue Jan 4 20:01:59 2005 From: diane at dianesoini.com (Diane Soini) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:01:59 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Is it just me? Message-ID: Am I the only one to receive an offensive email? Should I forward it to someone, or will the offender be taken care of already? Or did I actually say something to offend somebody? From peter at easylistbox.com Tue Jan 4 20:07:59 2005 From: peter at easylistbox.com (Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com)) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:07:59 -0600 Subject: [thelist] Is it just me? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c4f2cb$61a0af60$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse> If you're talking about "eat stool", I've gotten several of those in response to my postings here; it seems to be some kind of autoreply. As for "taking care of" the perpetrator, good luck. I just put a block on the address and I haven't been bothered since. Cheers, Peter -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org On Behalf Of Diane Soini Am I the only one to receive an offensive email? Should I forward it to someone, or will the offender be taken care of already? Or did I actually say something to offend somebody? From rich at richpoints.com Tue Jan 4 20:13:32 2005 From: rich at richpoints.com (Rich Points) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:13:32 -0700 Subject: [thelist] PHP Includes not including Message-ID: <41DB4D4C.3090400@richpoints.com> Howdy, I'm trying to use PHP includes for common elements like a header and footer throughout a site and I'm having trouble. I've used PHP Includes on other sites and they have worked fine, as far as I can tell I'm duplicating the syntax but no cigar. The code I'm using is to call the insert is as follows I've also tried I contacted my host and asked them if they know what's going and they said it's beyond the scope of their tech support. Here is my development page http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2005/1_subhead.php Anybody out there know whats going on with this? Thanks Rich From jtsage at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 20:38:30 2005 From: jtsage at gmail.com (Jonathan T. Sage) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 21:38:30 -0500 Subject: [thelist] PHP Includes not including In-Reply-To: <41DB4D4C.3090400@richpoints.com> References: <41DB4D4C.3090400@richpoints.com> Message-ID: <8403ca670501041838f54c632@mail.gmail.com> should be correct. Is the file processing at all? Look at the source and make sure the php code isn't still there after download. On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:13:32 -0700, Rich Points wrote: > Howdy, > I'm trying to use PHP includes for common elements like a header and > footer throughout a site and I'm having trouble. I've used PHP Includes > on other sites and they have worked fine, as far as I can tell I'm > duplicating the syntax but no cigar. The code I'm using is to call the > insert is as follows > > > > I've also tried > > > > > > > I contacted my host and asked them if they know what's going and they > said it's beyond the scope of their tech support. > Here is my development page > http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2005/1_subhead.php > > Anybody out there know whats going on with this? > > Thanks > Rich > > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > -- Jonathan T. Sage Theatrical Lighting / Set Designer Professional Web Design [HTTP://www.JTSage.com] [HTTP://design.JTSage.com] [jtsage at gmail.com] From rich at richpoints.com Tue Jan 4 21:06:13 2005 From: rich at richpoints.com (Rich Points) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:06:13 -0700 Subject: [thelist] PHP Includes not including In-Reply-To: <8403ca670501041838f54c632@mail.gmail.com> References: <41DB4D4C.3090400@richpoints.com> <8403ca670501041838f54c632@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41DB59A5.5080102@richpoints.com> I think it's working because I get the following message *Warning*: main(inserts/header.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in */opt2/home3/rd6714/public_html/articles_2005/1_subhead.php* on line *13 * Jonathan T. Sage wrote: > should be correct. Is the >file processing at all? Look at the source and make sure the php code >isn't still there after download. > > >On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:13:32 -0700, Rich Points wrote: > > >>Howdy, >>I'm trying to use PHP includes for common elements like a header and >>footer throughout a site and I'm having trouble. I've used PHP Includes >>on other sites and they have worked fine, as far as I can tell I'm >>duplicating the syntax but no cigar. The code I'm using is to call the >>insert is as follows >> >> >> >>I've also tried >> >> >> >> >> >> >>I contacted my host and asked them if they know what's going and they >>said it's beyond the scope of their tech support. >>Here is my development page >>http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2005/1_subhead.php >> >>Anybody out there know whats going on with this? >> >>Thanks >>Rich >> >>-- >> >>* * Please support the community that supports you. * * >>http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ >> >>For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester >>and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org >>Workers of the Web, evolt ! >> >> >> > > > > From jtsage at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 21:20:23 2005 From: jtsage at gmail.com (Jonathan T. Sage) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 22:20:23 -0500 Subject: [thelist] PHP Includes not including In-Reply-To: <41DB59A5.5080102@richpoints.com> References: <41DB4D4C.3090400@richpoints.com> <8403ca670501041838f54c632@mail.gmail.com> <41DB59A5.5080102@richpoints.com> Message-ID: <8403ca6705010419205a1a115@mail.gmail.com> include '../inserts/header.php'; the file http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2005/inserts/header.php does indeed not exist. remember include is a file system operation (the way you are calling it), not a URL/HTTP operation. good luck! ~j On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:06:13 -0700, Rich Points wrote: > I think it's working because I get the following message > Warning: main(inserts/header.php): failed to open stream: No such file or > directory in /opt2/home3/rd6714/public_html/articles_2005/1_subhead.php on > line 13 > > > > > Jonathan T. Sage wrote: > should be correct. Is the file > processing at all? Look at the source and make sure the php code isn't still > there after download. On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:13:32 -0700, Rich Points > wrote: > Howdy, I'm trying to use PHP includes for common elements like a header and > footer throughout a site and I'm having trouble. I've used PHP Includes on > other sites and they have worked fine, as far as I can tell I'm duplicating > the syntax but no cigar. The code I'm using is to call the insert is as > follows I've also tried include("/inserts/header.php"); ?> > include("/full_absolute_path/inserts/header.php"); ?> I contacted my host > and asked them if they know what's going and they said it's beyond the scope > of their tech support. Here is my development page > http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2005/1_subhead.php Anybody out there > know whats going on with this? Thanks Rich -- * * Please support the > community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For > unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of > thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! -- Jonathan T. Sage Theatrical Lighting / Set Designer Professional Web Design [HTTP://www.JTSage.com] [HTTP://design.JTSage.com] [jtsage at gmail.com] From rich at richpoints.com Tue Jan 4 21:27:32 2005 From: rich at richpoints.com (Rich Points) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:27:32 -0700 Subject: [thelist] PHP Includes not including In-Reply-To: <8403ca6705010419205a1a115@mail.gmail.com> References: <41DB4D4C.3090400@richpoints.com> <8403ca670501041838f54c632@mail.gmail.com> <41DB59A5.5080102@richpoints.com> <8403ca6705010419205a1a115@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41DB5EA4.50607@richpoints.com> Doh!! :-[ here is the correct URL http://reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2005/1_subhead.php > > From evolt at roselli.org Tue Jan 4 21:43:59 2005 From: evolt at roselli.org (aardvark) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:43:59 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Is it just me? In-Reply-To: <001501c4f2cb$61a0af60$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse> References: <001501c4f2cb$61a0af60$0500a8c0@monkeyhouse> Message-ID: <41DB627F.1050809@roselli.org> i discovered it when i posted yesterday... since i don't post so much anymore, i don't notice those auto-replies (is everyone out of the office, too?).... anyway, i unsubbed the address last night... but yes, you should notify somebody... it used to be me, so i'll still help when i am available... Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com) wrote: > If you're talking about "eat stool", I've gotten several of > those in response to my postings here; it seems to be some kind of > autoreply. > As for "taking care of" the perpetrator, good luck. I just put > a block on the address and I haven't been bothered since. > > Cheers, > > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org On Behalf Of Diane Soini > > Am I the only one to receive an offensive email? Should I forward it to > someone, or will the offender be taken care of already? > > Or did I actually say something to offend somebody? From lists at neptunewebworks.com Wed Jan 5 01:16:22 2005 From: lists at neptunewebworks.com (Maximillian Schwanekamp) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:16:22 -0800 Subject: [thelist] PHP Includes not including In-Reply-To: <41DB4D4C.3090400@richpoints.com> References: <41DB4D4C.3090400@richpoints.com> Message-ID: <41DB9446.1090807@neptunewebworks.com> Rich Points wrote: > Howdy, > I'm trying to use PHP includes for common elements like a header and > footer throughout a site and I'm having trouble. > > > I've also tried > > > > > If the path to script you're using include() in is: /opt2/home3/rd6714/public_html/articles_2005/1_subhead.php ...and assuming your header.php is: /opt2/home3/rd6714/public_html/inserts/header.php ...then your include statement in 1_subhead.php could functionally be: OR (with or without parentheses, to taste). If that doesn't work, you might double-check that your include_path ini setting includes your account's path somewhere, and adjust as necessary/possible. cf: http://us3.php.net/manual/en/ini.sect.path-directory.php#ini.include-path -- Maximillian Von Schwanekamp Dynamic Websites and E-Commerce NeptuneWebworks.com voice: 541-302-1438 fax: 208-730-6504 From gonz-bnm at raegunne.com Wed Jan 5 03:27:01 2005 From: gonz-bnm at raegunne.com (Ian Barber) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:27:01 -0000 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP Message-ID: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian Cummiskey >> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:32 PM >> >> a quick select distinct yeilds: >> >> >> NULL >> >> "april" >> (RPQ)PHONEDISC. > Am I missing a reason why you couldn't do something like: select * from blah where blah = 1 and PersonalIdentifier like '%[^0-9]%' that will just get you anything that contains characters other than 0 to 9. It'll fail on the null though, so you could coalesce to get around that, or use ansi nulls. select * from blah where blah = 1 and Coalesce(PersonalIdentifier, 'NaughtyNull') like '%[^0-9]%' Ian. From Ken at adOpenStatic.com Wed Jan 5 05:43:02 2005 From: Ken at adOpenStatic.com (Ken Schaefer) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 22:43:02 +1100 Subject: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP Message-ID: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF015@kjserver1.kjhome.local> This is a hack, but if 0-100 are valid responses, then SELECT * FROM Blah AS a WHERE a.PersonalIdentified < 0 OR a.PersonalIdentifier > 100 might work. But personally I you should have a different table schema. Store the freeform text in another field, and have a set value (eg NULL) in your existing field that indicates whether the free-text field should be used or not. Then you can enforce a numeric data type on that field, and it'll make your queries a lot easier. Cheers Ken : -----Original Message----- : From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist- : bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Ian Barber : Sent: Wednesday, 5 January 2005 8:27 PM : To: thelist at lists.evolt.org : Subject: RE: [thelist] MS SQl help ASAP : : thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org wrote: : >> -----Original Message----- : >> From: Brian Cummiskey : >> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:32 PM : >> : >> a quick select distinct yeilds: : >> : >> : >> NULL : >> : >> "april" : >> (RPQ)PHONEDISC. : > : : : Am I missing a reason why you couldn't do something like: : : select * from blah : where blah = 1 : and PersonalIdentifier like '%[^0-9]%' : : that will just get you anything that contains characters other than 0 to : 9. : It'll fail on the null though, so you could coalesce to get around that, : or : use ansi nulls. : : select * from blah : where blah = 1 : and Coalesce(PersonalIdentifier, 'NaughtyNull') like '%[^0-9]%' : : Ian. : : -- : : * * Please support the community that supports you. * * : http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ : : For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester : and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org : Workers of the Web, evolt ! From richard at livsey.org Wed Jan 5 07:13:43 2005 From: richard at livsey.org (Richard Livsey) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:13:43 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Multi dynamic select boxes and IE Message-ID: <41DBE807.6070007@livsey.org> Hi all, happy 2005! I've made a script which dynamically turns multi select boxes into 2 separate ones to make selecting things easy. This is generated on the fly via DOM manipulation (so non-JS users get a standard one) and works well. However, in IE, when the page loads it shows the 2nd select box as a normal one - not a multiple select one. A demo of this is available here: http://livsey.org/select/index.html A cut down version which just adds the select box to the page demonstrates this issue (bug?) nicely, and shows that it isn't something else in the script which is causing it. http://livsey.org/select/index2.html When the page loads, the select box is a standard one. I've added an onfocus action to the select box which adds an option to it. When you click it, it magically turns into a multi select box. The basic JS is as follows: var select = document.createElement('SELECT'); select.multiple = true; var form = document.getElementById('testForm'); form.appendChild(select); Anyone any ideas on why it's doing this, and am I missing something that IE needs to display it as a multi select box from the get go? I've googled about and can't see anything obvious. Thanks in advance. -- R.Livsey Incutio Web Developer www.livsey.org www.incutio.com -- R.Livsey Incutio Web Developer www.livsey.org www.incutio.com From and-evolt at doxdesk.com Wed Jan 5 08:41:19 2005 From: and-evolt at doxdesk.com (Andrew Clover) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:41:19 +0100 Subject: [thelist] Multi dynamic select boxes and IE In-Reply-To: <41DBE807.6070007@livsey.org> References: <41DBE807.6070007@livsey.org> Message-ID: <41DBFC8F.7050600@doxdesk.com> Richard Livsey wrote: > Anyone any ideas on why it's doing this, and am I missing something that > IE needs to display it as a multi select box from the get go? Well, that's a wacky one you've found. Well done! The trick is: IE will only allow a select element to be mutated between select-one and select-many when the element is actually on the page. Add the element to the document tree *before* writing to the multiple property and it works fine. -- Andrew Clover mailto:and at doxdesk.com http://www.doxdesk.com/ From pp.koch at gmail.com Wed Jan 5 08:48:00 2005 From: pp.koch at gmail.com (Peter-Paul Koch) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:48:00 +0100 Subject: [thelist] Multi dynamic select boxes and IE In-Reply-To: <41DBE807.6070007@livsey.org> References: <41DBE807.6070007@livsey.org> Message-ID: <21e4a1280501050648590ba191@mail.gmail.com> > I've made a script which dynamically turns multi select boxes into 2 > separate ones to make selecting things easy. > This is generated on the fly via DOM manipulation (so non-JS users get a > standard one) and works well. However, in IE, when the page loads it > shows the 2nd select box as a normal one - not a multiple select one. > > A cut down version which just adds the select box to the page > demonstrates this issue (bug?) nicely, and shows that it isn't something > else in the script which is causing it. > http://livsey.org/select/index2.html > > When the page loads, the select box is a standard one. I've added an > onfocus action to the select box which adds an option to it. When you > click it, it magically turns into a multi select box. Apparently IE Windows only recognizes the multiple attribute onFocus(), which, as far as I'm concerned, is a bug. The solution is therefore to place the focus on the select box automatically: form.appendChild(select); select.focus(); After that you might put the focus on the first, normal, select. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- ppk, freelance web developer Bug Report: Report bugs yourself, or comment on previously reported ones. http://www.quirksmode.org/bugreports/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lists at onlinetools.org Wed Jan 5 08:43:37 2005 From: lists at onlinetools.org (Chris Heilmann) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 15:43:37 +0100 (CET) Subject: [thelist] Multi dynamic select boxes and IE In-Reply-To: <41DBFC8F.7050600@doxdesk.com> References: <41DBE807.6070007@livsey.org> <41DBFC8F.7050600@doxdesk.com> Message-ID: <10748.80.85.75.20.1104936217.squirrel@webmail01.nwu.net> > Richard Livsey wrote: > >> Anyone any ideas on why it's doing this, and am I missing something that >> IE needs to display it as a multi select box from the get go? > > Well, that's a wacky one you've found. Well done! > > The trick is: IE will only allow a select element to be mutated between > select-one and select-many when the element is actually on the page. Add > the element to the document tree *before* writing to the multiple > property and it works fine. That is actually a really complex way to simulate a list of checkboxes. Multi select dropdowns are IMHO a useless pain to use on the client and backend. -- Chris Heilmann http://icant.co.uk/ | http://www.onlinetools.org/ From richard at livsey.org Wed Jan 5 09:18:27 2005 From: richard at livsey.org (Richard Livsey) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:18:27 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Multi dynamic select boxes and IE In-Reply-To: <21e4a1280501050648590ba191@mail.gmail.com> References: <41DBE807.6070007@livsey.org> <21e4a1280501050648590ba191@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41DC0543.2040901@livsey.org> Peter-Paul Koch wrote: >Apparently IE Windows only recognizes the multiple attribute >onFocus(), which, as far as I'm concerned, is a bug. The solution is >therefore to place the focus on the select box automatically: > >form.appendChild(select); >select.focus(); > >After that you might put the focus on the first, normal, select. > > Thanks for all the responses. The only way I could get it to work was to set it to multiple on a setTimeout after the item had been added to the page. Simply putting the multiple=true in the same code block as it was added to the page, but after it had been added, didn't seem to have an effect. It works, but it's a bit of a hack. This 'fix' has been added to the demo pages. Thanks again. -- R.Livsey www.livsey.org From richard at livsey.org Wed Jan 5 09:28:10 2005 From: richard at livsey.org (Richard Livsey) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:28:10 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Multi dynamic select boxes and IE In-Reply-To: <21e4a1280501050648590ba191@mail.gmail.com> References: <41DBE807.6070007@livsey.org> <21e4a1280501050648590ba191@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41DC078A.1030008@livsey.org> Peter-Paul Koch wrote: > Apparently IE Windows only recognizes the multiple attribute > >onFocus(), which, as far as I'm concerned, is a bug. The solution is >therefore to place the focus on the select box automatically: > >form.appendChild(select); >select.focus(); > >After that you might put the focus on the first, normal, select. > > Just to reply again, I got this method working too which is much more elegant than the timeout! Seems it didn't work originally as I still had a multiple=true before the focus, and it ignored the one after I focused. Thanks for the help. -- R.Livsey www.livsey.org From D.B.Smith at soton.ac.uk Tue Jan 4 07:43:54 2005 From: D.B.Smith at soton.ac.uk (Dan Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:43:54 -0000 Subject: [thelist] Javascript style switching help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Tony, I'm a little confused as to why you would want to replicate the functionality of the browser. Why don't you just create a separate style sheet for print and define it using the media attribute of the element? If you really want to change styles using JS, the easiest way I've found is to have a different css file for each different look (say, 'red' and 'green' - although they shouldn't be named by colour) and use JS to write out the elements in the head of the document based upon the value (or absence) of a style value in a cookie. I've found this method to work across most browsers and operating systems. You can see an example of it at http://www.soton.ac.uk/Accessibility/#change. If this is the sort of functionality you're looking for I can explain it in more detail. Cheers, Dan > I've written a script that should switch a style sheet, but > it only works in Safari. IE and Netscape aren't switching. > Can anyone help? Here's the relevant code: > > function activatePrintCSS() { > var i, a; > for(i=0; (a = document.getElementsByTagName("link")[i]); i++) { > if(a.getAttribute("rel") == "print css" && > a.getAttribute("title") == "print") { > a.disabled = false; > > document.getElementById("print-toggle").style.display = "none"; > > document.getElementById("print-toggle-return").style.display > = "inline"; > showAllDescriptions(); > showHideDescriptionToggle("hide"); > } > } > } > > In IE and Netscape everything is being properly executed except this > expression: > > a.disabled = false; > > Here is the test site if you want to see the whole thing: > http://www.tonygrimes.com/rets/ When you click on ?Print Friendly Version?, it should switch stylesheets to provide a preview for the user before they print the page. From sbeam at onsetcorps.net Wed Jan 5 08:08:11 2005 From: sbeam at onsetcorps.net (Sam Beam) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:08:11 -0500 Subject: [thelist] create PDF "template" and insert vars Message-ID: <200501050908.11525.sbeam@onsetcorps.net> We have what seems like a fairly simple and common requirement - create a PDF template that has some tokens in it, replace those tokens on the fly with values from a DB and return a new file. This is for a shipping label - so the template looks something like this, only nicer: +-------------------------------------------------+ | | | | | | | | | | | | +-------------------------------------------------+ The formatting of the label is actually pretty complex so we can't use a braindead html->pdf converter like HTMLdoc and it is only 1 page so we don't need to worry about page breaks, bookmarks, table of contents, etc. All of the stuff like TeX or jPDF or PDFlib or XSL-FOP seems like such overkill - the template is already made using Acrobat, all we need to do is get that user data in there. Unfortunately all these solutions seem to bring you back to that low level of "render a horizontal black line starting at coordinate 10,10..." which is a waste of time. So does anyone know of the best way to go about this? Ideally it would be similar to how you would use Smarty or Velocity templates but just with Postscript output instead of HTML... -- # S Beam - Web App Dev Servs # http://www.onsetcorps.net/ From lists at onlinetools.org Wed Jan 5 09:37:12 2005 From: lists at onlinetools.org (Chris Heilmann) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:37:12 +0100 (CET) Subject: [thelist] Odd margin problem Message-ID: <12548.80.85.75.20.1104939432.squirrel@webmail01.nwu.net> I am just playing with DOM to create dynamic galleries from a static list of thumbs and got a really odd problem in firefox: http://www.icant.co.uk/articles/dyngallery/index2.html If you click on one of the thumbs you get to the sequential viewer, clicking the lower image gets you to the next one and the upper one to the previous three. However, when you are on the second or third (not the first thumbs) and you click the upper one to go backward in the gallery, firefox looses the margin in between the divs. Does anyone know why that happens? Cheers chris -- Chris Heilmann http://icant.co.uk/ | http://www.onlinetools.org/ From joshua at waetech.com Wed Jan 5 10:05:33 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:05:33 -0500 Subject: [thelist] create PDF "template" and insert vars In-Reply-To: <200501050908.11525.sbeam@onsetcorps.net> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam Beam > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:08 AM > > We have what seems like a fairly simple and common > requirement - create > a PDF template that has some tokens in it, replace those > tokens on the > fly with values from a DB and return a new file. This is for > a shipping > label - so the template looks something like this, only nicer: Sam, I've had good luck with the activePDF Toolkit from ActivePDF. http://www.activepdf.com/products/serverproducts/toolkit/index.cfm The basic solution is this: 1. You create your PDF using Acrobat and include fill-out form fields in all the places you want the "tokens" 2. Save the PDF to the server somewhere. 3. Use the toolkit to "fill in" the fields and create a final PDF file. 4. Issue the completed PDF to the client. At $399 this toolkit is a bit expensive, imo, but it's simple to work with. I'm sure there are other solutions out there for less money. I'd suggest a quick scan of sourceforge.net now that you know some of the terminology. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From tbrunn at pgmusic.com Wed Jan 5 16:16:30 2005 From: tbrunn at pgmusic.com (Travis) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 14:16:30 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Looking for a robust shopping cart w/ support for e-delivery Message-ID: <012b01c4f374$354cd480$6d0eb5d0@trav> Hi Everyone, Hoping someone might be able to offer some advice. We're currently looking for a shopping cart (preferably php, though this isn't essential). It needs to be robust and highly configureable. The cart will be used to purchase software, so some method of file delivery upon purchase is also essential. Does anyone know of some good shopping carts out there that sound like they might match this description? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Travis -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004 From ArthurM at seipas.com Thu Jan 6 10:45:35 2005 From: ArthurM at seipas.com (Arthur Maloney) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:45:35 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Run cmd Message-ID: <1745045165.20050106164535@seipas.com> Hello thelist, I have a telephoney system, and on a local PC use can use the keyboard START --> Run voispeed:0161999999 to dial a number I want to do it with .Net (apsx page) On the web server server I can put 'voispeed:0161999999' into the request object. How do I get the client Browser to run the cmd? -- Best regards, Arthur mailto:ArthurM at seipas.com From rob.smith at THERMON.com Thu Jan 6 15:43:10 2005 From: rob.smith at THERMON.com (Rob Smith) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:43:10 -0600 Subject: [thelist] Response.Redirect (ASP) Message-ID: <0CEC8258A6E4D611BE5400306E1CC92703E7CFF7@smtmb.tmc.local> Hi, I'm concatenating a network path through a series of commands in ASP and then taking that path through response.redirect. When the url gets posted to the Address Bar it reads: https://my.domain.com/%5C%5CNetComp%5Cacct$%5CCash%5CFY05%5CJan%5CReceipts%2 00104.xls ( The %5C is the ASCII for \ ) The file exists on the server in the network path, but for some odd reason: "The page cannot be found" Ideas? Rob.Smith From alex at deltatraffic.co.uk Thu Jan 6 15:57:10 2005 From: alex at deltatraffic.co.uk (Alex Beston) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:57:10 +0000 Subject: [thelist] ooooh look at that In-Reply-To: <1745045165.20050106164535@seipas.com> References: <1745045165.20050106164535@seipas.com> Message-ID: <41DDB436.4090506@deltatraffic.co.uk> > doesnt parse I cant see any reason why it it shouldnt comments? -- Alex Beston Business Director deltaTraffic Tel: 01273 691234 Room 32, Level 6, New England House, Brighton, England www.deltatraffic.co.uk -- From dexilalolai at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 16:00:31 2005 From: dexilalolai at yahoo.com (Scott Dexter) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 14:00:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] Response.Redirect (ASP) In-Reply-To: <0CEC8258A6E4D611BE5400306E1CC92703E7CFF7@smtmb.tmc.local> Message-ID: <20050106220031.74800.qmail@web80403.mail.yahoo.com> --- Rob Smith wrote: > the Address Bar it reads: > https://my.domain.com/%5C%5CNetComp%5Cacct$%5CCash%5CFY05%5CJan%5CReceipts%2 > 00104.xls > > ( The %5C is the ASCII for \ ) > So you have a URL that looks like: https://my.domain.com/\\NetComp\acct\Cash... which isn't valid. UNC names don't play nicely inside URLs; you're going to have to emit an HTTP path to the document. Map a virtual directory or something of the sort.... Good luck-- Scott From joshua at waetech.com Thu Jan 6 16:06:06 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:06:06 -0500 Subject: [thelist] ooooh look at that In-Reply-To: <41DDB436.4090506@deltatraffic.co.uk> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Alex Beston > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:57 PM > > style="background-repeat:no-repeat" --> > > > doesnt parse > > I cant see any reason why it it shouldnt > > comments? Alex, Consider the reason that this doesn't parse: >Bold and Italicstrong> should be considered a tag where the text before the closing tag is simply ignored. Thus, you've incorrected nested tags. FYI, if you are using CF, change to and CF will consider the code commented during parsing and the text between will not be sent to the client. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From peter at easylistbox.com Thu Jan 6 16:14:17 2005 From: peter at easylistbox.com (Peter Brunone (EasyListBox.com)) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 15:14:17 -0700 Subject: [thelist] Response.Redirect (ASP) Message-ID: Hi Rob, ???It doesn't seem that odd to me.? If you replace "/" with "%5C" in a URL, I would think the browser would be a bit confused. Cheers, Peter From: Rob Smith rob.smith at THERMON.com Hi, I'm concatenating a network path through a series of commands in ASP and then taking that path through response.redirect. When the url gets posted to the Address Bar it reads: https://my.domain.com/%5C%5CNetComp%5Cacct$%5CCash%5CFY05%5CJan%5CReceipts%2 00104.xls ( The %5C is the ASCII for \ ) The file exists on the server in the network path, but for some odd reason: "The page cannot be found" Ideas? Rob.Smith -- From evolt at roselli.org Thu Jan 6 13:09:26 2005 From: evolt at roselli.org (aardvark) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:09:26 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Serializing SQL calls to AS/400 via ODBC In-Reply-To: <19416590.1104792538220.JavaMail.root@kermit.psp.pas.earthlink.net> References: <19416590.1104792538220.JavaMail.root@kermit.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <41DD8CE6.3030506@roselli.org> for those who may have been playing along at home (which i think was just anthony), i never found a solution... i think the driver is just plain broked... instead, i'm splitting my serialized query on the semicolon and passing it off as x number of queries... there are obviously potential problema since they aren't truly serialized, but i'm now leaning on the db itself and some external functions to help alleviate those... so if you're reading this in the future while surfing google trying to solve this very same problem, you're SOL on this thread... aardvark wrote: > i have an intranet project that uses an AS/400 database as the > data store for the system... i have to select, update, and insert > data... > > i am using the iSeries Client Access ODBC Driver to access this > AS/400 system... however, when i try to serialize, or string > together, more than one SQL statement it throws an error... > example error: > > Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e14' > [IBM][iSeries Access ODBC Driver][DB2 UDB]SQL0104 - Token ; > was not valid. Valid tokens: . From evolt at roselli.org Thu Jan 6 19:43:23 2005 From: evolt at roselli.org (aardvark) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:43:23 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Serializing SQL calls to AS/400 via ODBC In-Reply-To: <19416590.1104792538220.JavaMail.root@kermit.psp.pas.earthlink.net> References: <19416590.1104792538220.JavaMail.root@kermit.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <41DDE93B.9040106@roselli.org> for those who may have been playing along at home (which i think was just anthony), i never found a solution... i think the driver is just plain broked... instead, i'm splitting my serialized query on the semicolon and passing it off as x number of queries... there are obviously potential problema since they aren't truly serialized, but i'm now leaning on the db itself and some external functions to help alleviate those... so if you're reading this in the future while surfing google trying to solve this very same problem, you're SOL on this thread... aardvark wrote: > i have an intranet project that uses an AS/400 database as the > data store for the system... i have to select, update, and insert > data... > > i am using the iSeries Client Access ODBC Driver to access this > AS/400 system... however, when i try to serialize, or string > together, more than one SQL statement it throws an error... > example error: > > Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e14' > [IBM][iSeries Access ODBC Driver][DB2 UDB]SQL0104 - Token ; > was not valid. Valid tokens: . From Ken at adOpenStatic.com Thu Jan 6 19:52:17 2005 From: Ken at adOpenStatic.com (Ken Schaefer) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:52:17 +1100 Subject: [thelist] Response.Redirect (ASP) Message-ID: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF036@kjserver1.kjhome.local> : -----Original Message----- : From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On : Behalf Of Rob Smith : Subject: [thelist] Response.Redirect (ASP) : : I'm concatenating a network path through a series of commands in ASP and : then taking that path through response.redirect. When the url gets posted to : the Address Bar it reads: : https://my.domain.com/%5C%5CNetComp%5Cacct$%5CCash%5CFY05%5CJan : %5CReceipts%2 : 00104.xls : : ( The %5C is the ASCII for \ ) : : The file exists on the server in the network path, but for some odd reason: : : "The page cannot be found" I don't think it's "odd". Why do you think it's odd? I would suggest that the file certainly does *not* exist at the location you're pointing to. a) You're trying to connect using HTTPS:// (so port 443) to a host called my.domain.com b) Then you seem to be asking for *another* host called \\NetComp and connecting to an SMB (which is port 445, or ports 137-139) share called acct$ Right, so which is it? Do you want to use HTTPS? Or SMB? Do you want to connect to my.domain.com? Or do you want to connect to \\NetComp? Cheers Ken From jonathan at boehm-ritter.com Thu Jan 6 13:49:27 2005 From: jonathan at boehm-ritter.com (Jonathan Dillon) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:49:27 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Looking for a php "usps class" to generate shipping labels In-Reply-To: <1745045165.20050106164535@seipas.com> Message-ID: <20050106195433.B660D5188CF@mx1.nexiderm.com> I've looked everywhere without luck. I'm looking for a php class that I can use to generate USPS shipping labels. I'm not just looking for price calculations, but actual labels. Does anyone know of such a class? Even one in Java would be ok, as I can access the object from php. Help? Jonathan From sbeam at onsetcorps.net Thu Jan 6 17:40:17 2005 From: sbeam at onsetcorps.net (sbeam) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 18:40:17 -0500 Subject: [thelist] create PDF "template" and insert vars Message-ID: <200501061840.18014.sbeam@onsetcorps.net> On Wednesday 05 January 2005 11:05 am, you wrote: > I've had good luck with the activePDF Toolkit from ActivePDF. > > http://www.activepdf.com/products/serverproducts/toolkit/index.cfm > > The basic solution is this: > > 1. ?You create your PDF using Acrobat and include fill-out form fields in > all the places you want the "tokens" > 2. ?Save the PDF to the server somewhere. > 3. ?Use the toolkit to "fill in" the fields and create a final PDF file. > 4. ?Issue the completed PDF to the client. > > At $399 this toolkit is a bit expensive, imo, but it's simple to work with. > I'm sure there are other solutions out there for less money. ?I'd suggest a > quick scan of sourceforge.net now that you know some of the terminology. Thanks for the links. I keep thinking of PDFs as an being more hackable then they are it seems. Looks like we will be going with some kind of commercial solution where you can insert data via FDF into the PDF form fields. cheers. -- # S Beam - Web App Dev Servs # http://www.onsetcorps.net/ From markgroen at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 00:21:31 2005 From: markgroen at gmail.com (Mark Groen) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:21:31 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Looking for a php "usps class" to generate shipping labels In-Reply-To: <20050106195433.B660D5188CF@mx1.nexiderm.com> References: <1745045165.20050106164535@seipas.com> <20050106195433.B660D5188CF@mx1.nexiderm.com> Message-ID: <23dbfbd1050106222174e90f5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:49:27 -0800, Jonathan Dillon wrote: > I've looked everywhere without luck. > > I'm looking for a php class that I can use to generate USPS shipping labels. > I'm not just looking for price calculations, but actual labels. Does anyone > know of such a class? Even one in Java would be ok, as I can access the > object from php. afaik, they have their own web tools/API, you need to register to look around: http://www.usps.com/webtools/shipping.htm cheers, Mark MG Web Services www.mgwebservices.ca Your Canadian West Coast web site development and hosting solution. From evolt at muinar.com Fri Jan 7 04:36:25 2005 From: evolt at muinar.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:36:25 +0100 Subject: [thelist] Linebreaks in PHP/MySQL newsletter Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20050107112442.02154680@mail.muinar.com> Hi all When I format newsletters using this code... $nlText = wordwrap( $text,72 ); ... some users get all the text on one line. If I replace 'bad' linebreaks like this: $text = ereg_replace( "\r\n","\n",$text ); $text = ereg_replace( "\r","\n",$text ); $nlText = wordwrap( $text,72 ); ... some users get the newsletter with double linebreaks. Of course, when I test it (Win2000, Win98, Eudora, Outlook, TheBat), everything looks good, in both cases. Your advice/experience? Thanks! Mike _____ mike s. krischker http://webdesign-schweiz.ch/ webpro mailing list http://webdesign-list.com/ flashpro mailing list http://flash-list.com/ From ruimbmadeira at yahoo.com.br Fri Jan 7 06:19:32 2005 From: ruimbmadeira at yahoo.com.br (Rui Madeira) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:19:32 -0300 (ART) Subject: [thelist] Help about DB search Message-ID: <20050107121932.51877.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> I need a easy script that can help me in a search with a Access data base. Thank?s in advanced Rui Madeira --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Gr?tis - Internet r?pida e gr?tis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. From ianfusa at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 06:34:35 2005 From: ianfusa at gmail.com (Ian Feavearyear) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 12:34:35 +0000 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette Message-ID: Does anyone worry about sticking to the web-safe pallette these days? Just curious! Ian From john at johnallsopp.co.uk Fri Jan 7 06:50:48 2005 From: john at johnallsopp.co.uk (john at johnallsopp.co.uk) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:50:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50207.82.195.101.196.1105102248.squirrel@82.195.101.196> > Does anyone worry about sticking to the web-safe pallette these days? > Just curious! I think it was always more important for corporate types who wanted their corporate colours to turn out reasonable. I don't worry about it any more. J From lists at onlinetools.org Fri Jan 7 06:54:51 2005 From: lists at onlinetools.org (Chris Heilmann) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:54:51 +0100 (CET) Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55302.80.85.75.20.1105102491.squirrel@webmail01.nwu.net> > Does anyone worry about sticking to the web-safe pallette these days? > Just curious! I still. Mainly because I know that they'll be fine on most machines and are nice to abbreviate and type. color:#369; instead of color:#34679a; Also, you can guess a lot of them, as they can only have 00, 33, 66, 99, cc or ff as any of the triplets. -- Chris Heilmann http://icant.co.uk/ | http://www.onlinetools.org/ From keith at digital-crew.com Fri Jan 7 07:19:08 2005 From: keith at digital-crew.com (Keith Gaughan) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:19:08 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Help about DB search In-Reply-To: <20050107121932.51877.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050107121932.51877.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41DE8C4C.6070508@digital-crew.com> Rui Madeira wrote: > I need a easy script that can help me in a search with a Access data base. You'll need to be a little more detailed. What are you searching for in the db, and what's the database schema? K. -- Keith Gaughan, Developer Digital Crew Ltd., Pembroke House, Pembroke Street, Cork, Ireland http://digital-crew.com/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 From keith at digital-crew.com Fri Jan 7 07:18:09 2005 From: keith at digital-crew.com (Keith Gaughan) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 13:18:09 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Linebreaks in PHP/MySQL newsletter In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20050107112442.02154680@mail.muinar.com> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20050107112442.02154680@mail.muinar.com> Message-ID: <41DE8C11.6070803@digital-crew.com> Mike wrote: > Hi all > > When I format newsletters using this code... > > $nlText = wordwrap( $text,72 ); > > ... some users get all the text on one line. > > If I replace 'bad' linebreaks like this: > > $text = ereg_replace( "\r\n","\n",$text ); > $text = ereg_replace( "\r","\n",$text ); > $nlText = wordwrap( $text,72 ); > > ... some users get the newsletter with double linebreaks. > > Of course, when I test it (Win2000, Win98, Eudora, Outlook, TheBat), > everything looks good, in both cases. > > Your advice/experience? If the text is coming from a form, you should *always* be getting CRLFs as your linebreaks. I'm not sure if that's the case, but if it is, something odd's going on. What might be happening is that the linebreaks might mixed. An example of something that might result in a double linefeed would be a sequence like "\r\n\n", where the second \n is being ignored (IE's textarea will do this as it's the same control as makes up the body of notepad). When converted, this leaves you with \n\n. I'd check your incoming data to see if this is what's happening. K. -- Keith Gaughan, Developer Digital Crew Ltd., Pembroke House, Pembroke Street, Cork, Ireland http://digital-crew.com/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 From roger.newbrook at scientiasolutions.com Fri Jan 7 07:18:55 2005 From: roger.newbrook at scientiasolutions.com (Roger Newbrook) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:18:55 -0000 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette Message-ID: Ian asked "Does anyone worry about sticking to the web-safe pallette these days?" for me this is a yes and no answer. No, all my colour pallettes don't conform to the web-safe pallette. But I also find it useful to know how a site will render at a lower colour quality, particularly with subtle colours (ie not much saturation). roger From lightly at sc.rr.com Fri Jan 7 07:31:27 2005 From: lightly at sc.rr.com (Linda R.) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 08:31:27 -0500 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41DE8F2F.6030205@sc.rr.com> Ian Feavearyear wrote: > Does anyone worry about sticking to the web-safe pallette these days? > Just curious! Naw. Use the colors you like but test a lot. By the way, Web safe doesn't mean that anyone using any browser on any Operating System will see those colors in the same way. It means they won't see them as dithered. The Web safe palette was developed for 256 color video display. 8-bit and 16-bit color systems share only 8 colors of the Web 216 palette. That means the Web 216 color palette is pretty much guaranteed to dither or shift on a 16-bit color display. 16 bit, or "High color" was originally developed for artists who work in CMYK color space. 16 bits can be evenly divided into 4 bits per channel?4 Cyan, 4 Magenta, 4 Yellow, and 4 Key (blacK). RGB is a three value color space. 16 bits can?t be evenly divided by 3, so you end up with an extra color bit. That?s where things go wonky. Different display card manufacturers have different ways of dealing with that 16th bit. One may assign the orphaned bit to the blue channel, making a color look cooler. Another manufacturer may assign bit #16 to the red channel, making the same color look warmer. A third display card manufacturer might choose to ignore bit 16 altogether. This color shift between systems is why the background color of a GIF matches the background color of an HTML page on my system but doesn?t match it on yours. It's worth noting that LCD screens are less color faithful than CRT monitors, especially when viewing the screen a bit off the perpendicular. 16-bit color display is a complete madhouse! -- Cheers, Linda Rathgeber ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Masking and selecting in Fireworks: "PHOTO MAGIC" http://webdevbiz.com/pwf/photomagic/ Fireworks Visual Effects: "RAZZLE DAZZLE" http://www.webdevbiz.com/pwf/ Victoriana | http://www.projectseven.com Team MM Fireworks Volunteer | www.macromedia.com/go/team ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From evolt at muinar.com Fri Jan 7 07:38:30 2005 From: evolt at muinar.com (Mike) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:38:30 +0100 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.2.20050107143709.02194008@mail.muinar.com> At 12:34 07.01.2005 +0000, you wrote: >Does anyone worry about sticking to the web-safe pallette these days? >Just curious! For me it doesn't make sense anymore. The 'web safe' colors weren't that safe anyway. Mike _____ mike s. krischker http://webdesign-schweiz.ch/ webpro mailing list http://webdesign-list.com/ flashpro mailing list http://flash-list.com/ From ruimbmadeira at yahoo.com.br Fri Jan 7 08:18:42 2005 From: ruimbmadeira at yahoo.com.br (Rui Madeira) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:18:42 -0300 (ART) Subject: [thelist] Help about DB search In-Reply-To: <41DE8C4C.6070508@digital-crew.com> Message-ID: <20050107141842.52342.qmail@web20708.mail.yahoo.com> > I need a easy script that can help me in a search with a Access data base, that will be presented in a web site. The data base as only one table, with 6 fields of informations: cities, URL (it can be more than one), 4 digit code, specific information in URL, classes of information (agruped in 4 classes), type of information (agruped in three types). The search in the DB will be made only by three fields: cities, class and type of information. All of them will need to have a "combo box" for the user choose what he/she wants to search. The result of the search would be a table with the name of the city specific information in URL and the URL to make the link. Thank you very much for the help in advanced Rui Madeira --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Gr?tis - Internet r?pida e gr?tis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. From diane at dianesoini.com Fri Jan 7 08:48:42 2005 From: diane at dianesoini.com (Diane Soini) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 06:48:42 -0800 Subject: [thelist] IE6 and XML with XSLT printing troubles Message-ID: <3966798A-60BB-11D9-AD47-00039358CB42@dianesoini.com> I've taken an RDF XML file and applied a simple XSL style sheet to layout the data in a basic HTML table, minus the unnecessary columns. Nothing fancy, nothing you wouldn't find in a basic tutorial. It renders faithfully in Windows IE6. The resulting table fits in about 3 pages with landscape orientation, so it's not a whole lot. However, when I go to actually print the document (from IE6), the size of the file sent to the printer approaches infinity. I watch in print preview as the page number approaches 1000. I nearly killed an entire forest of trees before I realized what was happening. I've tried also opening the XML file with Excel. It does the same thing, filling in rows for all eternity, unless I opt out of applying the style sheet. (I have Office 2003 on XP Pro, by the way.) I also cannot copy and paste the data from IE6 into another document. All it copies is the URL to the XML file. And, I cannot open another different XML file at the same time in a new window. When I do, the first browser window also opens the new file. What the heck?? Is this a common problem? Is there a fix? It would be really handy if my supervisor could just open up the file that resides on the server in IE or Excel in order to see all the data rather than me remembering to update a separate file with the data. I have no server technology available, so I thought this might suffice. Help! Diane From and-evolt at doxdesk.com Fri Jan 7 09:03:28 2005 From: and-evolt at doxdesk.com (Andrew Clover) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:03:28 +0100 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: <41DE8F2F.6030205@sc.rr.com> References: <41DE8F2F.6030205@sc.rr.com> Message-ID: <41DEA4C0.3090707@doxdesk.com> Linda R. wrote: > By the way, Web safe doesn't mean that anyone using any browser on any > Operating System will see those colors in the same way. It means they > won't see them as dithered. Not even that much, if you count operating systems other than Windows and Mac. Other OSs made different choices on what palette to use in 256-colours. Plus Netscape <=4 on Unix would happily dither and choose the wrong colour (at random) for even colours it had palette entries for. (Technical explanation: this is because it was crap.) Web-safe was always overrated. Good riddance to it. > That means the Web 216 color palette is pretty much guaranteed to dither > or shift on a 16-bit color display. Actually *all* colours are guaranteed to dither/shift on a 15-bit colour display. Apart from the primary/secondary colours where each RGB component is 0x00 or 0xFF, no colour that can be specified with 5 bits per channel can also be specified *exactly* with 8 bits per channel. On a 16-bit display with 5 bits per channel for red and blue and 6 for the green you do get another couple of colours to play with, but not much and they're mostly ugly. -- Andrew Clover mailto:and at doxdesk.com http://www.doxdesk.com/ From keith at digital-crew.com Fri Jan 7 09:27:04 2005 From: keith at digital-crew.com (Keith Gaughan) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 15:27:04 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Re: Help about DB search In-Reply-To: <20050107141842.52342.qmail@web20708.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050107141842.52342.qmail@web20708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <41DEAA48.90500@digital-crew.com> Rui Madeira wrote: >>I need a easy script that can help me in a search with a Access data >>base, that will be presented in a web site. > > The data base as only one table, with 6 fields of informations: > cities, URL (it can be more than one), 4 digit code, specific > information in URL, classes of information (agruped in 4 classes), > type of information (agruped in three types). Any chance of some sample data? Your description of what the URL field contains is a little vague: are the URLs stored together in the one field in the one row or is the data identifying the the URLs (cities--why plural?--type, and class) > The search in the DB will be made only by three fields: cities, class > and type of information. All of them will need to have a "combo box" > for the user choose what he/she wants to search. The result of the > search would be a table with the name of the city specific information > in URL and the URL to make the link. I think a link to a copy of the database, either empty or with some sample data, would be useful. Also, I think your schema may be in need of some normalisation. In particular, the cities should problably be moved to their own table so that you have one canonical list of them. They can then be referenced in your main table. K. -- Keith Gaughan, Developer Digital Crew Ltd., Pembroke House, Pembroke Street, Cork, Ireland http://digital-crew.com/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 From rob.smith at THERMON.com Fri Jan 7 09:28:32 2005 From: rob.smith at THERMON.com (Rob Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:28:32 -0600 Subject: [thelist] Response.Redirect (ASP) Message-ID: <0CEC8258A6E4D611BE5400306E1CC92703E7CFFF@smtmb.tmc.local> Ken, I'm connecting from an https:// to an excel file located on another server via the \\Network protocol. Now, obviously it works when the files are located on the web server itself. It's worked before. Maybe I just need to walk my happy rear over the guys desk and recopy what I think the path is. Rob From dexilalolai at yahoo.com Fri Jan 7 09:42:20 2005 From: dexilalolai at yahoo.com (Scott Dexter) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 07:42:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] Response.Redirect (ASP) In-Reply-To: <0CEC8258A6E4D611BE5400306E1CC92703E7CFFF@smtmb.tmc.local> Message-ID: <20050107154220.30707.qmail@web80403.mail.yahoo.com> > I'm connecting from an https:// to an excel file located on another > server > via the \\Network protocol. There's the rub. This method is not as straight forward as you're hoping with just doing it via URL. The webserver (https) needs to have access to the "another" server and map the \\Network share to a virtual directory so it is available to web clients. There are also network permissions to consider, ensuring the webserver has proper rights to \\AnotherServer. Sorry, there are a couple hoops to jump through here; the good news is it's a very well-worn path, lots of folks have done this, and we can help you through it :) Scott From joshua at waetech.com Fri Jan 7 09:51:52 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:51:52 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Response.Redirect (ASP) In-Reply-To: <0CEC8258A6E4D611BE5400306E1CC92703E7CFFF@smtmb.tmc.local> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Smith > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:29 AM > > Ken, > > I'm connecting from an https:// to an excel file located on > another server > via the \\Network protocol. Now, obviously it works when the files are > located on the web server itself. It's worked before. Maybe I > just need to > walk my happy rear over the guys desk and recopy what I think > the path is. Rob, It is possible to access network resources using the UNC (such as \\server\folder\etc) through Internet Explorer. However, that necessitates that you can somehow get the browser to have in its address bar the UNC for the file. When you are using the HTTP protocol (or HTTPS) through IE you are, effectively, locked into the web-centric protocols (http, https, ftp, mail, etc). That means going from http://www.domain.com to \\server\folder\ is NOT going to work without the user typing in the address themselves. Imagine, if you would, the security risk that would open up if you could click on a link on a bad webpage which opens the following within a hidden frame: \\localhost\c$\somefile !! I don't think even MS is that careless. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From steve at plankdesign.com Fri Jan 7 09:54:25 2005 From: steve at plankdesign.com (Steve Bissonnette) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 10:54:25 -0500 Subject: [thelist] 1and1.com web host ? Message-ID: Hi everyone, Has anyone had any experience with 1and1 web hosting ? http://www.1and1.com/ One of our clients wants to move to them and I?d like to know of anyone has any caveats / warnings / experiences, etc. Thanks, Steve -- steve bissonnette steve at plankdesign.com PLANK. A multi-faceted-media company. http://www.plankdesign.com v. 514.875.0003 f. 514.875.7611 From evolt_org at striderweb.com Fri Jan 7 10:12:32 2005 From: evolt_org at striderweb.com (Stephen Rider) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:12:32 -0600 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: <41DE8F2F.6030205@sc.rr.com> References: <41DE8F2F.6030205@sc.rr.com> Message-ID: On Jan 7, 2005, at 7:31 AM, Linda R. wrote: > 16 bit, or "High color" was originally developed for artists who work > in CMYK color space. 16 bits can be evenly divided into 4 bits per > channel?4 Cyan, 4 Magenta, 4 Yellow, and 4 Key (blacK). RGB is a three > value color space. 16 bits can?t be evenly divided by 3, so you end up > with an extra color bit. That?s where things go wonky. > ... > Different display card manufacturers have different ways of dealing > with that 16th bit.... This color shift between systems is why the > background color of a GIF matches the background color of an HTML page > on my system but doesn?t match it on yours. THANK YOU! God, that's been driving me crazy -- I notice it again every once in a while and could never figure out if the coder screwed up, of if the computer was off kilter... or what. It makes no sense to me that something as basic as color can't be standardized across computers. Of course... If you want a gif to precisely match the background color of a web page, you can use a solid-color gif as the background-image for the Body (in addition to specifying it in HTML). The color of a gif will match another same-color gif more reliably than it will a HTML-specified RGB color. Cool. From mark at eurogamer.net Fri Jan 7 10:26:12 2005 From: mark at eurogamer.net (Mark Kennedy) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:26:12 +0000 Subject: [thelist] IE6 and XML with XSLT printing troubles In-Reply-To: <3966798A-60BB-11D9-AD47-00039358CB42@dianesoini.com> References: <3966798A-60BB-11D9-AD47-00039358CB42@dianesoini.com> Message-ID: <41DEB824.6070002@eurogamer.net> Hi Diane, Can I/we see the stylesheet in question? I don't know much about the MSXML XSLT processor, but I do know XSLT and maybe there's an infinite recursion you haven't spotted, that IE manages to detect and halt in some cases but not when printing. Sorry if this sounds like a complete stab in the dark, but your problem does sound odd. Mark Diane Soini wrote: > I've taken an RDF XML file and applied a simple XSL style sheet to > layout the data in a basic HTML table, minus the unnecessary columns. > Nothing fancy, nothing you wouldn't find in a basic tutorial. It renders > faithfully in Windows IE6. > > The resulting table fits in about 3 pages with landscape orientation, so > it's not a whole lot. However, when I go to actually print the document > (from IE6), the size of the file sent to the printer approaches > infinity. I watch in print preview as the page number approaches 1000. I > nearly killed an entire forest of trees before I realized what was > happening. > > I've tried also opening the XML file with Excel. It does the same thing, > filling in rows for all eternity, unless I opt out of applying the style > sheet. (I have Office 2003 on XP Pro, by the way.) > > I also cannot copy and paste the data from IE6 into another document. > All it copies is the URL to the XML file. And, I cannot open another > different XML file at the same time in a new window. When I do, the > first browser window also opens the new file. > > What the heck?? Is this a common problem? Is there a fix? It would be > really handy if my supervisor could just open up the file that resides > on the server in IE or Excel in order to see all the data rather than me > remembering to update a separate file with the data. I have no server > technology available, so I thought this might suffice. Help! > > Diane > From maisha at e-vent.org Fri Jan 7 10:32:04 2005 From: maisha at e-vent.org (Maisha Walker) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:32:04 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Little piece of Javascript code Message-ID: <0I9Y00B46GLLB1@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Hello all! My javascript programmer is out of town and (thanks to David Sieband for the insight!) I realize that I'm in need of someone to write a little Javascript code for a project. I have a calendar which shows the details of each event in a pop-up window. When people click on a link (either from the site or from an email) for a particular event, I'd like both the calendar and the detail page for that event to open up so that the user doesn't have to click twice. But there will also be times when someone will just click on the calendar link so no event detail window will open. I need some javascript code for the calendar page that will check for the existence of event detail information in the URL (something like calendar.htm#eventname), and then open up the appropriate event window. Can anyone out there write that or know where I can find something similar? I don't really have time to learn all about javascript (I have to focus on other stuff so I'd rather leave it to the pros :o) but I'm generally a quick study so and I know some of the basics so if its really easy I can do it from an example of something similar! Many thanks! Maisha From getafixx at getafixx.com Fri Jan 7 10:37:54 2005 From: getafixx at getafixx.com (Justin King) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:37:54 -0000 Subject: [thelist] 1and1.com web host ? References: Message-ID: <005f01c4f4d7$3ea34550$3982150a@ukstudio.ceo.ad.ea.com> Steve, http://www.1and1.com/ Just don't do it... They are the biggest bunch of Muppets I have ever had the misfortune to deal with. I have had some clients who have used them to register domains and have had to transfer the domain away from them just so they could set different DNS servers. (it seams that you can do that now) Just plain hard work and difficult. I am sure their hosting plans are good value and their uptime is good. I hope other people have had a better experience than me. Justin http://getafixxhosting.com http://getafixx.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bissonnette" To: Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:54 PM Subject: [thelist] 1and1.com web host ? Hi everyone, Has anyone had any experience with 1and1 web hosting ? http://www.1and1.com/ One of our clients wants to move to them and I?d like to know of anyone has any caveats / warnings / experiences, etc. Thanks, Steve -- steve bissonnette steve at plankdesign.com PLANK. A multi-faceted-media company. http://www.plankdesign.com v. 514.875.0003 f. 514.875.7611 -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! From soundres9 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 7 10:43:00 2005 From: soundres9 at yahoo.com (klute) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 08:43:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] 1and1.com web host ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20050107164300.67801.qmail@web50109.mail.yahoo.com> this may help http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=360739&highlight=1and1.com best james --- Steve Bissonnette wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Has anyone had any experience with 1and1 web hosting > ? > > http://www.1and1.com/ > > One of our clients wants to move to them and I?d > like to know of anyone > has any caveats / warnings / experiences, etc. > > > Thanks, > Steve > -- > steve bissonnette > steve at plankdesign.com > > PLANK. A multi-faceted-media company. > http://www.plankdesign.com > v. 514.875.0003 f. 514.875.7611 > > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. > * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip > Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com From lightly at sc.rr.com Fri Jan 7 10:44:42 2005 From: lightly at sc.rr.com (Linda R.) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:44:42 -0500 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: References: <41DE8F2F.6030205@sc.rr.com> Message-ID: <41DEBC7A.7080804@sc.rr.com> Stephen Rider wrote: > Of course... > > If you want a gif to precisely match the background color of a web page, > you can use a solid-color gif as the background-image for the Body (in > addition to specifying it in HTML). The color of a gif will match > another same-color gif more reliably than it will a HTML-specified RGB > color. > Or you eliminate the problem altogether by making the background of your GIF transparent. -- Cheers, Linda Rathgeber ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Masking and selecting in Fireworks: "PHOTO MAGIC" http://webdevbiz.com/pwf/photomagic/ Fireworks Visual Effects: "RAZZLE DAZZLE" http://www.webdevbiz.com/pwf/ Victoriana | http://www.projectseven.com Team MM Fireworks Volunteer | www.macromedia.com/go/team ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From alan.lloyd at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 10:50:27 2005 From: alan.lloyd at gmail.com (Alan Lloyd) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:50:27 +0000 Subject: [thelist] 1and1.com web host ? In-Reply-To: <005f01c4f4d7$3ea34550$3982150a@ukstudio.ceo.ad.ea.com> References: <005f01c4f4d7$3ea34550$3982150a@ukstudio.ceo.ad.ea.com> Message-ID: <5722c75505010708503694f285@mail.gmail.com> Not sure about the US based version but i think the general consensus is that they are fine if you never need their tech support. I feel like i have been 10 rounds with their tech support today but would still recommend them for price if nothing else. Alan On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:37:54 -0000, Justin King wrote: > Steve, > > http://www.1and1.com/ > > Just don't do it... > > They are the biggest bunch of Muppets I have ever had the misfortune to deal > with. > > I have had some clients who have used them to register domains and have had > to transfer the domain away from them just so they could set different DNS > servers. (it seams that you can do that now) > > Just plain hard work and difficult. > > I am sure their hosting plans are good value and their uptime is good. I > hope other people have had a better experience than me. > > Justin > http://getafixxhosting.com > http://getafixx.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Bissonnette" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:54 PM > Subject: [thelist] 1and1.com web host ? > > Hi everyone, > > Has anyone had any experience with 1and1 web hosting ? > > http://www.1and1.com/ > > One of our clients wants to move to them and I?d like to know of anyone > has any caveats / warnings / experiences, etc. > > Thanks, > Steve > -- > steve bissonnette > steve at plankdesign.com > > PLANK. A multi-faceted-media company. > http://www.plankdesign.com > v. 514.875.0003 f. 514.875.7611 > > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > -- Alan Lloyd Hosting Reserve http://hosting-reserve.co.uk From juha at ilmiantajat.fi Fri Jan 7 02:20:14 2005 From: juha at ilmiantajat.fi (Juha Suni) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:20:14 +0200 Subject: [thelist] [OT] Seeking Windows 2K and Office 2K References: <20050103182156.E79DD47E23@mx2.song.fi> Message-ID: <008001c4f491$b6c251c0$3300a8c0@tavutykki> Joshua Olson wrote: > > Based on the handful of respondents, the majority of the people on > this list appear to be from the US. Of course, the results are > preliminary. > > Chime in here: > > http://concepts.waetech.com/thelist_survey/ Just a heads up. This no longer seems to be the case. Also you should've considered the fact that you put up the survey at a time when most europeans were no longer working, but were already at home (or well, the local pub, cough). Interesting information nonetheless. -- Suni From ruimbmadeira at yahoo.com.br Fri Jan 7 10:55:30 2005 From: ruimbmadeira at yahoo.com.br (Rui Madeira) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:55:30 -0300 (ART) Subject: [thelist] Help about DB search In-Reply-To: <41DEAA48.90500@digital-crew.com> Message-ID: <20050107165530.57008.qmail@web20706.mail.yahoo.com> Here it goes a sample of the DB I?m sorry but the info is in Portuguese (I?m from Portugal, Lisbon) but I?ve turn the fields name to English Keith Gaughan wrote: Rui Madeira wrote: >>I need a easy script that can help me in a search with a Access data >>base, that will be presented in a web site. > > The data base as only one table, with 6 fields of informations: > cities, URL (it can be more than one), 4 digit code, specific > information in URL, classes of information (agruped in 4 classes), > type of information (agruped in three types). Any chance of some sample data? Your description of what the URL field contains is a little vague: are the URLs stored together in the one field in the one row or is the data identifying the the URLs (cities--why plural?--type, and class) > The search in the DB will be made only by three fields: cities, class > and type of information. All of them will need to have a "combo box" > for the user choose what he/she wants to search. The result of the > search would be a table with the name of the city specific information > in URL and the URL to make the link. I think a link to a copy of the database, either empty or with some sample data, would be useful. Also, I think your schema may be in need of some normalisation. In particular, the cities should problably be moved to their own table so that you have one canonical list of them. They can then be referenced in your main table. K. -- Keith Gaughan, Developer Digital Crew Ltd., Pembroke House, Pembroke Street, Cork, Ireland http://digital-crew.com/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt ! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Gr?tis - Internet r?pida e gr?tis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. From jonathan at boehm-ritter.com Fri Jan 7 12:25:42 2005 From: jonathan at boehm-ritter.com (Jonathan Dillon) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:25:42 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Looking for a php "usps class" to generate shippinglabels In-Reply-To: <23dbfbd1050106222174e90f5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20050107183103.16CB1518776@mx1.nexiderm.com> > > On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:49:27 -0800, Jonathan Dillon wrote: > > I've looked everywhere without luck. > > > > I'm looking for a php class that I can use to generate USPS shipping labels. > > I'm not just looking for price calculations, but actual labels. Does > > anyone know of such a class? Even one in Java would be ok, as I can > > access the object from php. > > afaik, they have their own web tools/API, you need to register to look around: > > http://www.usps.com/webtools/shipping.htm Right, I've looked through this. It basically has a couple of third party services you can print labels through like Stamps.com, Pitney, Endicia, etc. But I have no problem generating shipping labels -- I guess I was unclear. The problem I'm having is generating the tracking labels -- we have bulk postage paid. Anyone have experience with this? Hey, who knows, maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. But none of the vendors I yakked with could tell me how to do this without going to a third party payment solution. Jonathan From mwarden at gmail.com Fri Jan 7 12:37:50 2005 From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 13:37:50 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Little piece of Javascript code In-Reply-To: <0I9Y00B46GLLB1@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <0I9Y00B46GLLB1@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: Maisha, On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 11:32:04 -0500, Maisha Walker wrote: > I have a calendar which shows the details of each event in a pop-up window. > When people click on a link (either from the site or from an email) for a > particular event, I'd like both the calendar and the detail page for that > event to open up so that the user doesn't have to click twice. > > But there will also be times when someone will just click on the calendar > link so no event detail window will open. You will basically need two components. 1. URL querystring parsing, that will extract the information you need from the URL (if it exists): http://www.google.com/search?q=javascript+%7Eparse+querystring+-perl 2. The pop-up window code. This is actually very trivial, but the exact URL you use will depend on the server-side code of your calendar. It will probably look something like this: window.open('/calendar/event?eventid='+ id, ...); where 'id' is a javascript variable holding the event id that you just extracted from the URL in #1, and '...' are the other options in window.open. See: http://www.google.com/search?q=javascript+%22window.open%22 Specifically, one of the results is a window.open code wizard. So, that might be of particular help to you: http://www.wizardscc.com/wizards/newwindow.asp Good luck, -- Matt Warden Miami University Oxford, OH, USA http://mattwarden.com This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy. From dan at danromanchik.com Fri Jan 7 13:20:38 2005 From: dan at danromanchik.com (Dan Romanchik) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:20:38 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Credit Card Processing with ZenCart Message-ID: <058f01c4f4ed$f87d3c40$6501a8c0@D9J77B01> Is there anyone here who's familiar with how ZenCart processes credit cards? And I don't mean simply the setup, but the innards of the thing. A couple of months ago, my ISP moved my website QTB.Com to a new server, and ever since, it hasn't been recording the credit card number on an order. It seems to do everything else correctly. It takes the order, records it in the database, and sends out the appropriate e-mails. It just doesn't record the CC #. I have it set up to record the outer eight digits in the database and e-mail me the inner eight. Neither set of digits is being handled correctly. I had thought it was perhaps because I was using the 1.1.4 version, so I installed the latest (version 1.2.2 at the time), but it has the same problem. I've posted this question to the ZenCart support forum, but no one there seems to have a clue. One person tried helping me, but it seems as though she's pretty much abandoned me now that the question is over her head. Via the ZenCart website, I sent a private message to the guy that looks to be the author of cc.php, the credit card processing module, but he never responded. I'd really hate to change ISPs as I have a number of websites on this host, and up to this point, we've been able to resolve these problems quickly and efficiently. thanks in advance.... Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Romanchik - Web Developer dan at danromanchik.com, 734-930-6564 From evolt_org at striderweb.com Fri Jan 7 16:27:22 2005 From: evolt_org at striderweb.com (Stephen Rider) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 16:27:22 -0600 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: <41DEBC7A.7080804@sc.rr.com> References: <41DE8F2F.6030205@sc.rr.com> <41DEBC7A.7080804@sc.rr.com> Message-ID: <4CDEBA55-60FB-11D9-8FB6-000A957FB6EA@striderweb.com> On Jan 7, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Linda R. wrote: >> < tip type="precise color matching to a background"* >> If you want a gif to precisely match the background color of a web >> page, you can use a solid-color gif as the background-image for the >> Body (in addition to specifying it in HTML). The color of a gif will >> match another same-color gif more reliably than it will a >> HTML-specified RGB color > > Or you eliminate the problem altogether by making the background of > your GIF transparent. True. Okay, forget gifs. Cross out the first instance of the word "gif" in the tip above, and replace it with "Flash animation". AFAIK, you can't make a flash background transparent. So... what's the list etiquette here... do I post an amended Tip (resulting in a double-harvest), or just leave it? For that matter, does quoting a tip trip the harvester twice, or does it realize it's looking at a duplicate? Steve From shiva at io.com Fri Jan 7 16:33:56 2005 From: shiva at io.com (Earl Cooley) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:33:56 -0600 Subject: [thelist] web-safe pallette In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20050107143709.02194008@mail.muinar.com> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20050107143709.02194008@mail.muinar.com> Message-ID: <41DF0E54.1020600@io.com> Mike wrote: > For me it doesn't make sense anymore. The 'web safe' colors weren't that > safe anyway. Excerpted from "Death of the Websafe Color Palette?" by David Lehn and Hadley Stern: "We found that only 22 of the 216 colors we began with did not end up being shifted incorrectly in at least one viewing environment. So, it looks like we have roughly 22 colors that are really websafe" http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/00/37/index2a.html -- 3 e=sc^ (shiva at io.com) Earl Cooley III (the "other" Earl) From russgri at xarahost.com Fri Jan 7 19:03:24 2005 From: russgri at xarahost.com (russgri at xarahost.com) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 19:03:24 -0600 Subject: [thelist] Looking for a php "usps class" to generateshippinglabels References: <20050107183103.16CB1518776@mx1.nexiderm.com> Message-ID: <010e01c4f51d$e24f96e0$3d19f445@russgri> Open an ebay account....You can use the PayPal and Ebay tools for other items than just ebay... Russ Griechen From Brian at hondaswap.com Fri Jan 7 19:10:10 2005 From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2005 20:10:10 -0500 Subject: [thelist] 1and1.com web host ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41DF32F2.60008@hondaswap.com> Steve Bissonnette wrote: >Has anyone had any experience with 1and1 web hosting ? > >http://www.1and1.com/ > > Sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow :) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 From jonathan at boehm-ritter.com Fri Jan 7 19:10:38 2005 From: jonathan at boehm-ritter.com (Jonathan Dillon) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:10:38 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Looking for a php "usps class" togenerateshippinglabels In-Reply-To: <010e01c4f51d$e24f96e0$3d19f445@russgri> Message-ID: <20050108011602.D093D519BDE@mx1.nexiderm.com> > Open an ebay account....You can use the PayPal and Ebay tools for other items than just ebay... Thanks Russ! Unfortunately, they want .20 a transaction, and I have about 2000 a day. ;-) Jonathan From email at timburgan.com Sat Jan 8 05:16:21 2005 From: email at timburgan.com (Tim Burgan) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 21:46:21 +1030 Subject: [thelist] [php] Using the OR operator in an IF statement Message-ID: <41DFC105.3000406@timburgan.com> Hello, Can someone please correct me on my efforts below. If I have a condition where I want to test if a variable is not equal to "student", "staff", or "admin".. what's the simplest was to achieve that? Here's what I tried.. that didn't work: And also: I must be using the OR operator the wrong way. Can someone please correct me on this. Thanks very much for your time. Regards Tim Burgan From rick.good at shiesl.com Sat Jan 8 05:59:32 2005 From: rick.good at shiesl.com (Rick) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 12:59:32 +0100 Subject: [thelist] [php] Using the OR operator in an IF statement In-Reply-To: <41DFC105.3000406@timburgan.com> Message-ID: I think you need to use AND rather than OR. Rick On 1/8/05 12:16 PM, "Tim Burgan" wrote: > Hello, > > > Can someone please correct me on my efforts below. > If I have a condition where I want to test if a variable is not equal to > "student", "staff", or "admin".. what's the simplest was to achieve that? > > Here's what I tried.. that didn't work: > > if ( ($_POST['usertype'] != "student") || ($_POST['usertype'] != > "staff") || ($_POST['usertype'] != "admin") ) > { > // ... > } > ?> > > And also: > > if ( ($_POST['usertype'] != "student" || "staff" || "admin" ) > { > // ... > } > ?> > > I must be using the OR operator the wrong way. Can someone please > correct me on this. > > Thanks very much for your time. > > > Regards > > Tim Burgan > -- ?Always be careful when you pray, because deity is listening and will usually give you what you ask for, not what you meant to ask for. Goddess grant us good luck and a fertile winter.? Merry, Page 348, A Caress of Twilight by Laurell K. Hamilton. From gilles at balour.org Sat Jan 8 06:01:19 2005 From: gilles at balour.org (Gilles Beauregard) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:01:19 -0500 Subject: [thelist] 1and1.com web host ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.0.20050108065353.04d2d970@pop.1and1.com> Allo! >Has anyone had any experience with 1and1 web hosting ? >http://www.1and1.com/ I have a free account with then for about 1 years, and their big lack is at the email level. Not all email reach the destination. Some anti-spam ware are installed, but no detail on it. No fine tuning present. Also, the support for the free site are very limited. Paid site seem to be good, but. You can read interresting comment on a non-official board. You will find the link at the following page: http://www.balour.org/coop/7/212177.htm Good luck Gilles B. -- Touristes recherch?s pour partager exp?riences: http://travel.biwi.qc.ca Encore plus de trucs et d'astuces pour Webmasters http://www.biwi.qc.ca/favori/ More Webmastering trics: http://www.biwi.qc.ca/favorite/ -- -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 2005-01-03 From manuel.gonzalez.noriega at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 06:25:44 2005 From: manuel.gonzalez.noriega at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_Gonz=E1lez_Noriega?=) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:25:44 +0100 Subject: [thelist] Does HEAD requests show up in server logs? Message-ID: Hi, I'm building a public aggregator and there's this idea I want to experiment with: that every access to my_aggregator/your_blog/your_post issues a http HEAD request for your_blog/your_post , so your access stats grow but your bandwith isn't wasted. What I need: a) Confirmation that HEAD requests show up as page hits in server access logs b) Opinion on the pseudo-philosofical issue that some one reading a post by you in a public aggregator should be treated as one of you readers stats-wise. I'm talking about full posts, not posts' entries. TIA -- Manuel a veces :) a veces :( pero siempre trabajando duro para Simplel?gica: apariencia, experiencia y comunicaci?n en la web. http://simplelogica.net # (+34) 985 22 12 65 ?Ah! y escribiendo en Logicola: http://simplelogica.net/logicola/ From philip at turmel.org Sat Jan 8 07:23:05 2005 From: philip at turmel.org (Phil Turmel) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 08:23:05 -0500 Subject: [thelist] [php] Using the OR operator in an IF statement In-Reply-To: <41DFC105.3000406@timburgan.com> References: <41DFC105.3000406@timburgan.com> Message-ID: <41DFDEB9.5090901@turmel.org> Tim, Your first try is syntactically acceptable, but will always be true, since the OR operator returns true if any expression fed to it is true. > if ( ($_POST['usertype'] != "student") || ($_POST['usertype'] != > "staff") || ($_POST['usertype'] != "admin") ) You have to be careful translating sloppy human languange "and/or" wording since it doesn't usually match formal logic. Your verbage: > ...test if a variable is not equal to > "student", "staff", or "admin".. would be most directly translated to: if (!(($_POST['usertype']=="student")||($_POST['usertype']=="staff")|| ($_POST['usertype']=="admin"))) Which, thanks to DeMorgan, can also be rearranged to: if (($_POST['usertype']!="student")&&($_POST['usertype']!="staff")&& ($_POST['usertype']!="admin")) Your other attempt will not work with any comparision operator, as PHP needs a complete comparison for each item in an expression. PHP doesn't give a syntax error since it helpfully tries to convert the second and third strings into integers, ending up with zeros (false). If you really want to list individual items without repeating the comparison operator, use --switch-- instead of --if--, like this: switch ($_POST['usertype']) { case "student": case "staff": case "admin": break; default: // ... } HTH, Phil Turmel Tim Burgan wrote: > > Here's what I tried.. that didn't work: > > { > // ... > } > ?> > > And also: > > if ( ($_POST['usertype'] != "student" || "staff" || "admin" ) > { > // ... > } > ?> > > I must be using the OR operator the wrong way. Can someone please > correct me on this. > > Thanks very much for your time. > > > Regards > > Tim Burgan > > From mike at helpcenterlive.com Sat Jan 8 07:48:31 2005 From: mike at helpcenterlive.com (Help Center Live - Mike) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:48:31 +0000 Subject: [thelist] [php] Using the OR operator in an IF statement In-Reply-To: <41DFDEB9.5090901@turmel.org> References: <41DFC105.3000406@timburgan.com> <41DFDEB9.5090901@turmel.org> Message-ID: On 8 Jan 2005, at 13:23, Phil Turmel wrote: > switch ($_POST['usertype']) { > case "student": > case "staff": > case "admin": > break; > default: > // ... > } I would also recommend an if function around that switch to make sure that the POST var has been sent in the first place if (isset($_POST['usertype'])) { switch ($_POST['usertype']) { case "student": case "staff": case "admin": break; default: // ... } } .. or .. if (isset($_POST['usertype']) !== 'student' && isset($_POST['usertype']) !== 'staff' && isset($_POST['usertype']) !== 'admin') { // ... } Mike From evolt at mpember.net.au Sat Jan 8 07:49:40 2005 From: evolt at mpember.net.au (Michael Pemberton) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 00:49:40 +1100 Subject: [thelist] [php] Using the OR operator in an IF statement In-Reply-To: <41DFC105.3000406@timburgan.com> References: <41DFC105.3000406@timburgan.com> Message-ID: <41DFE4F4.6090508@mpember.net.au> Tim Burgan wrote: > Hello, > > > Can someone please correct me on my efforts below. > If I have a condition where I want to test if a variable is not equal to > "student", "staff", or "admin".. what's the simplest was to achieve that? > > Here's what I tried.. that didn't work: > > if ( ($_POST['usertype'] != "student") || ($_POST['usertype'] != > "staff") || ($_POST['usertype'] != "admin") ) > { > // ... > } > ?> > > And also: > > if ( ($_POST['usertype'] != "student" || "staff" || "admin" ) > { > // ... > } > ?> > > I must be using the OR operator the wrong way. Can someone please > correct me on this. > > Thanks very much for your time. > > > Regards > > Tim Burgan > > Try: $exclude = array("student", "staff", "admin"); if (in_array($_POST['usertype'], $exclude) != true) { /// -> REST OF YOUR CODE } Hopefully this does what you need and leaves room for additional entries for comparison when needed. BTW, the reason who were having problems with the original code was because of the logic being incorrect. The reason for this is that if 'usertype' == "admin", then both of the first conditions are met and the section will be executed. I think you are not really looking for something that is not A or B or C, you are looking for something that is 'not A' AND 'not B' AND 'not C'. The result is an equation that goes like this: if ( ($_POST['usertype'] != "student") && ($_POST['usertype'] != "staff") && ($_POST['usertype'] != "admin") ) OR THIS if ( !(($_POST['usertype'] == "student") || ($_POST['usertype'] == "staff") || ($_POST['usertype'] == "admin")) ) Hopefully this make sense. Tt is 12:45am and I could just be rambling. -- Michael Pemberton evolt at mpember.net.au From list at netpaths.net Sat Jan 8 18:48:33 2005 From: list at netpaths.net (Cayley Vos) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 16:48:33 -0800 Subject: [thelist] re: Credit Card Processing with ZenCart Message-ID: what is your online gateway? Authorize.net or other? Could be a problem with your offsite secure server Cayley Vos, Principal office: 310-372-3086 cell: 310-220-9020 http://www.netpaths.net _______________________________________________________ web hosting | search engine marketing | web development ---- Is there anyone here who's familiar with how ZenCart processes credit cards? And I don't mean simply the setup, but the innards of the thing. A couple of months ago, my ISP moved my website QTB.Com to a new server, and ever since, it hasn't been recording the credit card number on an order. It seems to do everything else correctly. It takes the order, records it in the database, and sends out the appropriate e-mails. It just doesn't record the CC #. I have it set up to record the outer eight digits in the database and e-mail me the inner eight. Neither set of digits is being handled correctly. I had thought it was perhaps because I was using the 1.1.4 version, so I installed the latest (version 1.2.2 at the time), but it has the same problem. I've posted this question to the ZenCart support forum, but no one there seems to have a clue. One person tried helping me, but it seems as though she's pretty much abandoned me now that the question is over her head. Via the ZenCart website, I sent a private message to the guy that looks to be the author of cc.php, the credit card processing module, but he never responded. I'd really hate to change ISPs as I have a number of websites on this host, and up to this point, we've been able to resolve these problems quickly and efficiently. thanks in advance.... Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Romanchik - Web Developer From soundres9 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 8 18:47:39 2005 From: soundres9 at yahoo.com (klute) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 16:47:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.0.20050108065353.04d2d970@pop.1and1.com> Message-ID: <20050109004739.87166.qmail@web50106.mail.yahoo.com> hello all, I have a css problem which i am hope to get some help with. the issue is: if the right nav bar has more content than the main content area, its content gets pushed down over the footer. how would i resolve it? here is the problem in action: http://www.devbistro.com/wdf/ i appreciate any help! james p.s. if you see more problems with the layout besides what i'd described above, i'd appreciate a quick email. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From stanson at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 19:09:23 2005 From: stanson at gmail.com (Theodore Serbinski) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:09:23 -0500 Subject: [thelist] CSS help, styling lists Message-ID: Hi all, So I'm having a bit of trouble, and yes, IE is causing me the trouble. Take a look at this template: http://www.cilon.com/asist/ I'm trying to get the menu to center vertically within the horizontal blue bar, along with the search field but IE is not cooperating, no matter what I try. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Also, does anyone know how in IE to make the menus appear like this in the mockup: http://projects.userworks.com/asist/Prototypev10.htm Looking at the hover state mostly, in Firefox it's easy to extend the padding on the A tag but IE just grows the LI box so the border expands too (instead of small). Thanks! ted From lists at neptunewebworks.com Sat Jan 8 19:34:34 2005 From: lists at neptunewebworks.com (Maximillian Schwanekamp) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 17:34:34 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Freelancer Accounting Software Message-ID: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> Anyone have a good recommendation for a low-cost (<$100 USD) accounting app (desktop or web-based) especially suited to freelance web dev business? Many accounting packages seemed aimed at businesses with inventory and lots of payroll issues. As a freelance webworker I have neither of these. What do the other freelancers on the list use? I looked at Quickbooks online, which seemed interesting except it's IE-only, and that irks me. QB the desktop app is a bit more than I'm willing to spend time or money on. Recommendations for what others have actually used successfully for a year or more would be most appreciated. TIA! -- Maximillian Von Schwanekamp Dynamic Websites and E-Commerce NeptuneWebworks.com voice: 541-302-1438 fax: 208-730-6504 From evolt_org at striderweb.com Sat Jan 8 20:41:14 2005 From: evolt_org at striderweb.com (Stephen Rider) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 20:41:14 -0600 Subject: [thelist] Freelancer Accounting Software In-Reply-To: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> References: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> Message-ID: On Jan 8, 2005, at 7:34 PM, Maximillian Schwanekamp wrote: > Anyone have a good recommendation for a low-cost (<$100 USD) > accounting app (desktop or web-based) especially suited to freelance > web dev business? Many accounting packages seemed aimed at businesses > with inventory and lots of payroll issues. As a freelance webworker I > have neither of these. What do the other freelancers on the list use? > > I looked at Quickbooks online, which seemed interesting except it's > IE-only, and that irks me. QB the desktop app is a bit more than I'm > willing to spend time or money on. For Mac OS X there is a pretty good program called iWork. It's worth a look if you're on that OS. Hmmm... Looks like they just changed the name to iBiz Steve Rider From rsennett at brainlink.com Sat Jan 8 22:06:13 2005 From: rsennett at brainlink.com (Rosalie Sennett) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:06:13 -0500 Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <20050109004739.87166.qmail@web50106.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Aren't the percentages on all the width designations going to make just about anything move around depending upon the content? Did you use the percentage in the width and fixed pixel in height for a particular reason? ---------------------------------------------------------------- "All my life I've wanted to be somebody; I see now I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin > -----Original Message----- > From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist- > bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of klute > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:48 PM > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed > > hello all, > > I have a css problem which i am hope to get some help > with. the issue is: if the right nav bar has more > content than the main content area, its content gets > pushed down over the footer. how would i resolve it? > here is the problem in action: > http://www.devbistro.com/wdf/ > > i appreciate any help! > james > > p.s. if you see more problems with the layout besides > what i'd described above, i'd appreciate a quick email. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! From rsennett at brainlink.com Sat Jan 8 22:19:10 2005 From: rsennett at brainlink.com (Rosalie Sennett) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:19:10 -0500 Subject: [thelist] CSS help, styling lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ted, In assist.html, you show the three columns of the table where the entire menu bar spans all three columns. But in the mockup jpg, the menu items actually only colspan the first two columns and the search and go is really in the third column with the background making it look like one big strip. If you do it that way... the search and go should line up above the matching column below. (theoretically) r ---------------------------------------------------------------- "All my life I've wanted to be somebody; I see now I should have been more specific." - Lily Tomlin > -----Original Message----- > From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist- > bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Theodore Serbinski > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:09 PM > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Subject: [thelist] CSS help, styling lists > > Hi all, > > So I'm having a bit of trouble, and yes, IE is causing me the trouble. > Take a look at this template: > > http://www.cilon.com/asist/ > > I'm trying to get the menu to center vertically within the horizontal > blue bar, along with the search field but IE is not cooperating, no > matter what I try. > > Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Also, does anyone know how > in IE to make the menus appear like this in the mockup: > http://projects.userworks.com/asist/Prototypev10.htm > Looking at the hover state mostly, in Firefox it's easy to extend the > padding on the A tag but IE just grows the LI box so the border > expands too (instead of small). > > Thanks! > > ted > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! From mike at helpcenterlive.com Sun Jan 9 03:56:44 2005 From: mike at helpcenterlive.com (Help Center Live - Mike) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:56:44 +0000 Subject: [thelist] Freelancer Accounting Software In-Reply-To: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> References: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> Message-ID: What about the QuickBooks simple start? Thats $99. http://quickbooks.intuit.com/commerce/catalog/product.jhtml? priorityCode=0273400000&prodId=prod0000000000007975101&lid=nav Mike On 9 Jan 2005, at 01:34, Maximillian Schwanekamp wrote: > Anyone have a good recommendation for a low-cost (<$100 USD) > accounting app (desktop or web-based) especially suited to freelance > web dev business? Many accounting packages seemed aimed at businesses > with inventory and lots of payroll issues. As a freelance webworker I > have neither of these. What do the other freelancers on the list use? > > I looked at Quickbooks online, which seemed interesting except it's > IE-only, and that irks me. QB the desktop app is a bit more than I'm > willing to spend time or money on. Recommendations for what others > have actually used successfully for a year or more would be most > appreciated. > > TIA! > > -- > Maximillian Von Schwanekamp > Dynamic Websites and E-Commerce > NeptuneWebworks.com > voice: 541-302-1438 > fax: 208-730-6504 > > > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and > archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, > evolt ! > From john at johnallsopp.co.uk Sun Jan 9 04:43:19 2005 From: john at johnallsopp.co.uk (john at johnallsopp.co.uk) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 05:43:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [thelist] Freelancer Accounting Software In-Reply-To: References: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> Message-ID: <50160.82.195.101.196.1105267399.squirrel@82.195.101.196> >> What do the other freelancers on the list >> use? I love Quicken but it doesn't support invoicing (but for the few I use I just open an account for each client and raise invoices manually). I've recently moved to Linux and I'm looking forward to playing with GnuCash which is like Quicken but with invoice support, I hear. It's free too. QuickBooks looked very complicated when I saw it recently. J From tonyc at boldfish.co.uk Sun Jan 9 05:13:37 2005 From: tonyc at boldfish.co.uk (Tony Crockford) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:13:37 -0000 Subject: [thelist] Freelancer Accounting Software In-Reply-To: <50160.82.195.101.196.1105267399.squirrel@82.195.101.196> References: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> <50160.82.195.101.196.1105267399.squirrel@82.195.101.196> Message-ID: At 10:43 on Sunday, 09 Jan 2005, wrote: >>> What do the other freelancers on the list >>> use? > > I love Quicken but it doesn't support invoicing (but for the few I use > I just open an account for each client and raise invoices manually). > I've recently moved to Linux and I'm looking forward to playing with > GnuCash which is like Quicken but with invoice support, I hear. It's > free too. QuickBooks looked very complicated when I saw it recently. My version of Quicken (Quicken 2000 deluxe) has support for Customer invoices. (and I'm running it on WinXP) I've been using Quicken for many years. I never upgraded to later versions, because they didn't seem to offer much extra for the extra money. you can still buy older versions of Quicken from Amazon. hth ;o) From evolt at mpember.net.au Sun Jan 9 05:48:42 2005 From: evolt at mpember.net.au (Michael Pemberton) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:48:42 +1100 Subject: [thelist] Freelancer Accounting Software In-Reply-To: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> References: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> Message-ID: <41E11A1A.1010403@mpember.net.au> Maximillian Schwanekamp wrote: > Anyone have a good recommendation for a low-cost (<$100 USD) accounting > app (desktop or web-based) especially suited to freelance web dev > business? Many accounting packages seemed aimed at businesses with > inventory and lots of payroll issues. As a freelance webworker I have > neither of these. What do the other freelancers on the list use? > > I looked at Quickbooks online, which seemed interesting except it's > IE-only, and that irks me. QB the desktop app is a bit more than I'm > willing to spend time or money on. Recommendations for what others have > actually used successfully for a year or more would be most appreciated. > > TIA! > Like yourself, I wasn't happy with the options that were out there. They were either badly done, or too feature-rich. My solution: I wrote my own. I know it may seem like a bit of an extreme measure, but it meant that I got exactly what I needed. It took me a few goes to get it just right. With a bit of PHP code and MySQL for record storage, I was able to put together a simple job/task invoice system that can grow as my needs change. In addition to to simple method of data entry, I was able to quickly put together a PDF invoice option that allows me to print / email my invoices. Since I don't have any TAX to take into account when invoicing, this is not included, but can be quickly added by modifying the source. Another feature that is simple to add is one that would schedule a weekly run of invoices and email them to the clients. -- Michael Pemberton evolt at mpember.net.au From evoltlist at delime.com Sun Jan 9 08:53:24 2005 From: evoltlist at delime.com (M. Seyon) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 10:53:24 -0400 Subject: [thelist] CSS help, styling lists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050109102337.00ad78b0@mx.delime.com> Message from Theodore Serbinski (1/8/2005 09:09 PM) >Hi all, > >So I'm having a bit of trouble, and yes, IE is causing me the trouble. >Take a look at this template: > >http://www.cilon.com/asist/ > >I'm trying to get the menu to center vertically within the horizontal >blue bar, along with the search field but IE is not cooperating, no >matter what I try. I don't know the technical details but it appears that an inline box doesn't respond to top or bottom margin or padding. You can however use line-height, and vertical-align. I applied a line-height of 2em to your #globalmenu li selector and it solved the problem. >Also, does anyone know how >in IE to make the menus appear like this in the mockup: > http://projects.userworks.com/asist/Prototypev10.htm >Looking at the hover state mostly, in Firefox it's easy to extend the >padding on the A tag but IE just grows the LI box so the border >expands too (instead of small). Not sure what you're asking here. I don't see any hover state displayed in the mockup. regards. -marc -- Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com http://www.playyuhself.com/ From evoltlist at delime.com Sun Jan 9 09:02:18 2005 From: evoltlist at delime.com (M. Seyon) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 11:02:18 -0400 Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <20050109004739.87166.qmail@web50106.mail.yahoo.com> References: <6.2.0.14.0.20050108065353.04d2d970@pop.1and1.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050109105503.01f0a9a0@mx.delime.com> Message from klute (1/8/2005 08:47 PM) >hello all, > >I have a css problem which i am hope to get some help >with. the issue is: if the right nav bar has more >content than the main content area, its content gets >pushed down over the footer. how would i resolve it? >here is the problem in action: >http://www.devbistro.com/wdf/ The rightbar div (and I would personally rethink this name to something more indicative of the content it contains rather than where it appears on screen, as it'd be kinda silly if you ever decided to redesign the site and put this content on the left) is absolutely positioned, so it doesn't affect the document flow. The footer will position itself immediately after the normally positioned body div. That's one of the consequences of haphazard use of absolute positioning, I'm afraid. There are other ways to implement that layout that don't rely on absolute positioning because really, it's not a very complicated one. Both Rosalie and myself posted useful links to better understand positioning in your earlier thread titled "CSS expert opinion needed". Go take a closer read. regards. -marc -- Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com http://www.playyuhself.com/ From soundres9 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 09:55:43 2005 From: soundres9 at yahoo.com (klute) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:55:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20050109105503.01f0a9a0@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: <20050109155543.89297.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> rosalie and marc and others, thanks for your replies. to give you some background: someone built the layout for me based on a template ( http://www.cssdev.com/csslayouts/vertical/two_column/fluid_right.htm ) frome the site recommended by cody. i felt it was ok to go with the absolute positioning for the right nav (marc, you are right, i'll change the name of that to vertbar or something) since the template has a decent browser support and states: "All of these templates are hack free and have been tested on IE 5+ Win/Mac, Opera 6+, Firefox 0.8+ and Konqueror." anyway, because of the latest problem i hit with absolute positioning that i just came to know, i decided to switch to the relative positioning for the vertical bar ( http://devbistro.com/wdf/index2.html ). now, the header nav images don't show up but that's obviously a different problem i have to tackle. thanks a lot to all for your help with this james --- "M. Seyon" wrote: > Message from klute (1/8/2005 08:47 PM) > >hello all, > > > >I have a css problem which i am hope to get some > help > >with. the issue is: if the right nav bar has more > >content than the main content area, its content > gets > >pushed down over the footer. how would i resolve > it? > >here is the problem in action: > >http://www.devbistro.com/wdf/ > > The rightbar div (and I would personally rethink > this name to something > more indicative of the content it contains rather > than where it appears on > screen, as it'd be kinda silly if you ever decided > to redesign the site and > put this content on the left) is absolutely > positioned, so it doesn't > affect the document flow. > > The footer will position itself immediately after > the normally positioned > body div. That's one of the consequences of > haphazard use of absolute > positioning, I'm afraid. There are other ways to > implement that layout that > don't rely on absolute positioning because really, > it's not a very > complicated one. > > Both Rosalie and myself posted useful links to > better understand > positioning in your earlier thread titled "CSS > expert opinion needed". Go > take a closer read. > > regards. > -marc > > -- > Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. > Playyuhself.com > http://www.playyuhself.com/ > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. > * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip > Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page ? Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From joshua at waetech.com Sun Jan 9 10:47:22 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:47:22 -0500 Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <20050109155543.89297.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: klute > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:56 AM > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Subject: Re: [thelist] CSS layout help needed > > ) frome the site recommended by cody. i felt it was ok > to go with the absolute positioning for the right nav > (marc, you are right, i'll change the name of that to > vertbar or something) James, I think you may have missed Marc's point. If you name it vertbar, then you haven't solved the problem of an inappropriate name if you ever decide to redo the styling so that the information is horizontal or something else. It would make more sense to name the region based on what's in it, not it's placement on the page. In this case, perhap something like "featured_firms" or "featfirms"? <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From evoltlist at delime.com Sun Jan 9 11:11:43 2005 From: evoltlist at delime.com (M. Seyon) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:11:43 -0400 Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <20050109155543.89297.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20050109105503.01f0a9a0@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050109125215.00adbae0@mx.delime.com> Message from klute (1/9/2005 11:55 AM) >rosalie and marc and others, thanks for your replies. > >to give you some background: someone built the layout >for me based on a template ( >http://www.cssdev.com/csslayouts/vertical/two_column/fluid_right.htm >) frome the site recommended by cody. Please note that this is in no way a criticism or attack on that site, but by the author's own admission, over on the CSS-D mailing list, he's "been designing with standards now for just over 6 months". (This was in his post announcing his new site - cssdev.com - on October 3rd 2004.) Additionally his only posts to that list, which is probably the most definitive CSS-specific discussion list around, were the thread where he announced that new site and subsequent replies to that thread. I personally would stick with templates developed by people with far lengthier experience and demonstrated problem-solving abilities. In addition to the links previously given to the noodleincident site and the brainjar article, http://www.positioniseverything.net/index.php is another excellent resource. Though it doesn't have templates, it links to many useful sites, some of which do. >(marc, you are right, i'll change the name of that to >vertbar or something) Minor point here, but... what happens when you decide you want to present the content horizontally? Don't name the container based on where it is or what it looks like. Name it by what it contains. You didn't say #boxontop or #boxbelow did you? You said #header and #footer >( http://devbistro.com/wdf/index2.html ). >now, the header nav images don't show up but that's >obviously a different problem i have to tackle. Why are you putting the images in the background? Seems like you're just making life difficult for yourself. I think they're not showing because they're referenced as url(../images/advertise_hover.gif) Based on the url http://devbistro.com/wdf/index2.html, the absolute url that's referencing is http://devbistro.com/images/advertise_hover.gif Remove the ../ so it'll reference http://devbistro.com/wdf/images/advertise_hover.gif regards. -marc -- Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com http://www.playyuhself.com/ From evoltlist at delime.com Sun Jan 9 11:47:01 2005 From: evoltlist at delime.com (M. Seyon) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:47:01 -0400 Subject: underscores in CSS (was RE: [thelist] CSS layout help needed) In-Reply-To: <1105289532.31635@mx.webminders.com> References: <20050109155543.89297.qmail@web50110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050109134526.020fc540@mx.delime.com> Message from Joshua Olson (1/9/2005 12:47 PM) >In this case, perhap something like "featured_firms" >or "featfirms"? Do any current browsers still not understand underscores in selector names? Or is it only the oldies like NN4 and early Opera versions? I personally avoid them anyways but would be good to know. regards. -marc -- Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com http://www.playyuhself.com/ From soundres9 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 12:27:03 2005 From: soundres9 at yahoo.com (klute) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:27:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20050109125215.00adbae0@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: <20050109182703.60075.qmail@web50103.mail.yahoo.com> Marc, Your point re: the template i used is well taken. you are right about the path to the images, taking out the "../" from relative image urls solved it. the #rightbar was reincarnated as #extlinks. here is the latest layout: http://devbistro.com/wdf/index2.html as far as putting nav images in the background vs using javascript (i assume that's what you meant as an alternative), my coder did that. not sure why. would you use the javascript way instead? and why? best, james --- "M. Seyon" wrote: > Message from klute (1/9/2005 11:55 AM) > >rosalie and marc and others, thanks for your > replies. > > > >to give you some background: someone built the > layout > >for me based on a template ( > >http://www.cssdev.com/csslayouts/vertical/two_column/fluid_right.htm > >) frome the site recommended by cody. > > Please note that this is in no way a criticism or > attack on that site, but > by the author's own admission, over on the CSS-D > mailing list, he's "been > designing with standards now for just over 6 > months". (This was in his post > announcing his new site - cssdev.com - on October > 3rd 2004.) > > Additionally his only posts to that list, which is > probably the most > definitive CSS-specific discussion list around, were > the thread where he > announced that new site and subsequent replies to > that thread. > > I personally would stick with templates developed by > people with far > lengthier experience and demonstrated > problem-solving abilities. > > In addition to the links previously given to the > noodleincident site and > the brainjar article, > http://www.positioniseverything.net/index.php is > another excellent resource. Though it doesn't have > templates, it links to > many useful sites, some of which do. > > >(marc, you are right, i'll change the name of that > to > >vertbar or something) > > Minor point here, but... what happens when you > decide you want to present > the content horizontally? > > Don't name the container based on where it is or > what it looks like. Name > it by what it contains. You didn't say #boxontop or > #boxbelow did you? You > said #header and #footer > > >( http://devbistro.com/wdf/index2.html ). > >now, the header nav images don't show up but that's > >obviously a different problem i have to tackle. > > Why are you putting the images in the background? > Seems like you're just > making life difficult for yourself. > > I think they're not showing because they're > referenced as > url(../images/advertise_hover.gif) > > Based on the url > http://devbistro.com/wdf/index2.html, the absolute > url > that's referencing is > http://devbistro.com/images/advertise_hover.gif > > Remove the ../ so it'll reference > http://devbistro.com/wdf/images/advertise_hover.gif > > regards. > -marc > > -- > Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. > Playyuhself.com > http://www.playyuhself.com/ > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. > * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip > Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From soundres9 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 12:30:42 2005 From: soundres9 at yahoo.com (klute) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:30:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed Message-ID: <20050109183042.88036.qmail@web50105.mail.yahoo.com> Joshua, Thanks a lot for your comment. it makes total sense. my #rightbar now became #extlinks as it is likely to contain "featured firms", "recommended resources" and other external links best, james --- Joshua Olson wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: klute > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 10:56 AM > > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > > Subject: Re: [thelist] CSS layout help needed > > > > ) frome the site recommended by cody. i felt it > was ok > > to go with the absolute positioning for the right > nav > > (marc, you are right, i'll change the name of that > to > > vertbar or something) > > James, > > I think you may have missed Marc's point. If you > name it vertbar, then you > haven't solved the problem of an inappropriate name > if you ever decide to > redo the styling so that the information is > horizontal or something else. > It would make more sense to name the region based on > what's in it, not it's > placement on the page. In this case, perhap > something like "featured_firms" > or "featfirms"? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 From joshua at waetech.com Sun Jan 9 13:59:38 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:59:38 -0500 Subject: underscores in CSS (was RE: [thelist] CSS layout help needed) In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20050109134526.020fc540@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Seyon > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 12:47 PM > > Message from Joshua Olson (1/9/2005 12:47 PM) > >In this case, perhap something like "featured_firms" > >or "featfirms"? > > Do any current browsers still not understand underscores in > selector names? > Or is it only the oldies like NN4 and early Opera versions? > > I personally avoid them anyways but would be good to know. Back in 2002, James Aylard spoke up on this subject: http://lists.evolt.org/archive/Week-of-Mon-20020311/106624.html It appears NS up to version 6 still has problems: http://www.uwplatt.edu/web/wtc/quirks/CSSq.html <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168 From evoltlist at delime.com Sun Jan 9 14:09:25 2005 From: evoltlist at delime.com (M. Seyon) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:09:25 -0400 Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <20050109182703.60075.qmail@web50103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20050109125215.00adbae0@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050109160722.00ab4030@mx.delime.com> Message from klute (1/9/2005 02:27 PM) >Marc, > >Your point re: the template i used is well taken. > >you are right about the path to the images, taking out >the "../" from relative image urls solved it. the >#rightbar was reincarnated as #extlinks. here is the >latest layout: http://devbistro.com/wdf/index2.html > >as far as putting nav images in the background vs >using javascript (i assume that's what you meant as an >alternative), my coder did that. not sure why. would >you use the javascript way instead? and why? What do you need the javascript for? Why wouldn't the good old method work? regards. -marc -- Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com http://www.playyuhself.com/ From evoltlist at delime.com Sun Jan 9 15:26:45 2005 From: evoltlist at delime.com (M. Seyon) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:26:45 -0400 Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <20050109182703.60075.qmail@web50103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20050109125215.00adbae0@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050109172530.00ab1e00@mx.delime.com> Message from klute (1/9/2005 02:27 PM) >Marc, > >as far as putting nav images in the background vs >using javascript (i assume that's what you meant as an >alternative), my coder did that. not sure why. would >you use the javascript way instead? and why? Very basic reproduction of your navigation design. It doesn't require any images or javascript. http://milsweb.f2o.org/testing/thickbottomborderlinks.html regards. -marc -- Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com http://www.playyuhself.com/ From harvester at lists.evolt.org Sun Jan 9 18:00:10 2005 From: harvester at lists.evolt.org (harvester at lists.evolt.org) Date: 10 Jan 2005 00:00:10 -0000 Subject: [thelist] Tip Harvest for the Week of Monday Jan 03, 2005 Message-ID: <20050110000010.652.qmail@acornparenting.org> The tip harvest for the Week of Monday Jan 03, 2005 has been added to the lists.evolt.org site. Get it at: http://lists.evolt.org/harvest/show.cgi?w=20050103 Week at a glance listing at: http://lists.evolt.org/harvest/week.cgi?w=20050103 Harvest Summary --------------- Number of messages: 151 Number of tips : 1 Tip Authors ----------- Stephen Rider (1) Tip Types --------- precise color matching to a background (1) From lists at neptunewebworks.com Sun Jan 9 18:53:19 2005 From: lists at neptunewebworks.com (Maximillian Schwanekamp) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 16:53:19 -0800 Subject: [thelist] Freelancer Accounting Software In-Reply-To: <41E11A1A.1010403@mpember.net.au> References: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> <41E11A1A.1010403@mpember.net.au> Message-ID: <41E1D1FF.3030306@neptunewebworks.com> Michael Pemberton wrote: > Like yourself, I wasn't happy with the options that were out there. They > were either badly done, or too feature-rich. My solution: I wrote my own. > > I know it may seem like a bit of an extreme measure, but it meant that I > got exactly what I needed. It took me a few goes to get it just right. > With a bit of PHP code and MySQL for record storage, I was able to put > together a simple job/task invoice system that can grow as my needs change. > > In addition to to simple method of data entry, I was able to quickly put > together a PDF invoice option that allows me to print / email my invoices. LOL, I like that idea the best! I'm using Win XP primarily (I've also a G3/OSX for testing too) which I should've specified initially (thanks though, Stephen). Seems that most are recommending Intuit apps, so I'll look there, and ignore the others. But only a little - after which I'll just build the thing. Thanks for the responses! -- Maximillian Von Schwanekamp Dynamic Websites and E-Commerce NeptuneWebworks.com voice: 541-302-1438 fax: 208-730-6504 From soundres9 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 19:27:19 2005 From: soundres9 at yahoo.com (klute) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:27:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20050109172530.00ab1e00@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: <20050110012719.99547.qmail@web50102.mail.yahoo.com> Marc, got it. i thought you wer talking about impementing img rollovers using javascript. your suggestion sounds good. i'll look into it. thanks again for everything james --- "M. Seyon" wrote: > Message from klute (1/9/2005 02:27 PM) > >Marc, > > > >as far as putting nav images in the background vs > >using javascript (i assume that's what you meant as > an > >alternative), my coder did that. not sure why. > would > >you use the javascript way instead? and why? > > Very basic reproduction of your navigation design. > It doesn't require any > images or javascript. > http://milsweb.f2o.org/testing/thickbottomborderlinks.html > > regards. > -marc > > -- > Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. > Playyuhself.com > http://www.playyuhself.com/ > -- > > * * Please support the community that supports you. > * * > http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ > > For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip > Harvester > and archives of thelist go to: > http://lists.evolt.org > Workers of the Web, evolt ! > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From evoltlist at delime.com Sun Jan 9 20:21:08 2005 From: evoltlist at delime.com (M. Seyon) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:21:08 -0400 Subject: [thelist] CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <20050110012719.99547.qmail@web50102.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.2.0.58.20050109172530.00ab1e00@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050109221919.020de568@mx.delime.com> Message from klute (1/9/2005 09:27 PM) >Marc, > >got it. i thought you wer talking about impementing >img rollovers using javascript. your suggestion sounds >good. i'll look into it. No, I'm just not really keen on the idea of putting content - a clickable image that leads to another page is content - in the background. I think it's just one of several areas where the "separation of content and presentation" mantra has gotten out of hand. That's for another discussion though. regards. -marc -- Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com http://www.playyuhself.com/ From evoltlist at delime.com Sun Jan 9 20:25:20 2005 From: evoltlist at delime.com (M. Seyon) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 22:25:20 -0400 Subject: [thelist] Freelancer Accounting Software In-Reply-To: <41E11A1A.1010403@mpember.net.au> References: <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> <41E08A2A.3070700@neptunewebworks.com> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20050109222135.00ab6e08@mx.delime.com> Message from Michael Pemberton (1/9/2005 07:48 AM) >Like yourself, I wasn't happy with the options that were out there. They >were either badly done, or too feature-rich. My solution: I wrote my own. I'm in the process of doing exactly that for myself, and it doesn't sound at all like an extreme measure to me. It ensures I get exactly what I want, I have an excellent understanding of what it does, and can extend it as necessary. Plus, it gives me the opportunity to wear two hats - the developer and the client, and although it's somewhat biased it aids in understanding requirements and project scope and specifications. regards. -marc -- Trinidad Carnival in all its photographic glory. Playyuhself.com http://www.playyuhself.com/ From joshua at waetech.com Sun Jan 9 21:44:41 2005 From: joshua at waetech.com (Joshua Olson) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:44:41 -0500 Subject: [thelist] Meta-Information was CSS layout help needed In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20050109221919.020de568@mx.delime.com> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: M. Seyon > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:21 PM > > Message from klute (1/9/2005 09:27 PM) > >Marc, > > > >got it. i thought you wer talking about impementing > >img rollovers using javascript. your suggestion sounds > >good. i'll look into it. > > No, I'm just not really keen on the idea of putting content - > a clickable > image that leads to another page is content - in the > background. I think > it's just one of several areas where the "separation of content and > presentation" mantra has gotten out of hand. > > That's for another discussion though. Marc, Consider this: Images convey little or no currently-indexible information. This means that the link would lose some of its semantic value if the image is used to represent the link. However, when a link is text there is a general understanding that the link within the text accurately (at least if the site is well designed!) the target of the link. Through CSS it is possible to keep the text within the link while making the link display as a graphic to the user. If you are one of those who share the vision of a web where elements on a page carry a semantic meaning and where data can be indexed and searched as a massive, disorganized, yet somehow integrated and distributed database, then the advantage of maintaining as much context-information as possible should be apparent. I do conceded that there are other, and established, ways to convey meaning of links... title attribute for example. However, at this moment these attributes receive much less weight than they deserve. So, link text is very important. <><><><><><><><><><> Joshua Olson Web Application Engineer WAE Tech Inc. http://www.waetech.com/service_areas/ 706.210.0168