>
>...
>CSS
>#styleSelect
>{background-color:#fff;height:425px;width:400px;text-align:center;border:3px
>solid #68BB30;padding:5px;float:middle;vertical-align:top;overflow:auto;}
>.styleimage {padding:10px 5px 10px 5px; overflow: hidden;}
Ok, I did a bit more investigating in the specs. I don't know if I'm on the
right track with this but,
according to the specs, Overflow applies to "block-level and replaced
elements, table cells, inline blocks".[0]
And also in the specs, "In terms of the visual formatting model, a table
may behave like a block-level or inline-level element. Tables have content,
padding, borders, and margins." [1]
So I figured, maybe it's not displaying as a block-level element, so I
added display:block; to the css selector and that fixed it in Opera and
Firefox. IE still didn't work without the div though.
[0] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html#x0
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html#q5
regards.
-marc
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From sbeam at onsetcorps.net Mon Jan 31 15:09:27 2005
From: sbeam at onsetcorps.net (sbeam)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:09:27 -0500
Subject: [thelist] PHP Templating recommendations
In-Reply-To: <41FE7FBB.1020005@neptunewebworks.com>
References: <41FE7FBB.1020005@neptunewebworks.com>
Message-ID: <200501311609.27301.sbeam@onsetcorps.net>
On Monday 31 January 2005 01:58 pm, Maximillian Schwanekamp wrote:
> However there are times when Smarty is a like
> a sledgehammer for a thumbtack. ?Can anyone recommend a lightweight,
> *fast*, yet fairly versatile templating class for PHP? ?(PHP 4.3.10).
Have heard really good things about Flexy but have not yet had the
pleasure.
http://pear.php.net/package/HTML_Template_Flexy
If you want *fast* you will want to stick with the template engines that
generate PHP code and cache it. This is limited to Smarty, Flexy, Xipe
(AFAIK). Block-replacement parsers like FastTemplate and Sigma seem
simpler but tend to be slow and fragile and have a hard time doing
loops and control structures (ie you cant do nested loops)
Also, a better analogy is that Smarty for small projects is like using a
SUV to go get the groceries. Might a bit more gas, and you don't need
the 4 wheel drive, but so what? It doesn't hurt anything (pollution and
global oil dependency being non-factors in this analogy-world)
You could always just make a PHP-only "template" for smaller projects as
some have suggested. But obviously you have seen the light so we don't
need to start that argument ;)
--
# S Beam - Web App Dev Servs
# http://www.onsetcorps.net/
From lists at neptunewebworks.com Mon Jan 31 15:13:32 2005
From: lists at neptunewebworks.com (Maximillian Schwanekamp)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:13:32 -0800
Subject: [thelist] PHP Templating recommendations
In-Reply-To: <41FE900C.3080707@gmail.com>
References: <41FE7FBB.1020005@neptunewebworks.com>
<910e7a8305013111093c878e29@mail.gmail.com> <41FE900C.3080707@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41FE9F7C.6060002@neptunewebworks.com>
> John williams wrote:
>> Nothing is more lightweight and fast than just using PHP's own
>> print-and-echo statements.
Adrian Simmons wrote:
> Agreed. There's a nice article that advocates just that:
> http://www.phppatterns.com/index.php/article/articleview/4/1/1/
Thanks for the feedback. Point taken!
--
Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
http://www.neptunewebworks.com/
From mark at testwiz.com Mon Jan 31 16:07:28 2005
From: mark at testwiz.com (Mark Marlow)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:07:28 -0500
Subject: [thelist] What is least expensive Mac to use as Web client QA box
In-Reply-To: <41FE7309.3030008@neptunewebworks.com>
Message-ID: <3k70ii$m9sl5j@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>
Thank you all for your suggestions. One common suggestion is to be sure
that the MAC is running OS 10. What would be the limitation of running a
G3 with Mac OS 8.6 with regards to client side web site testing?
Does the OS version effect which version of Safari, FireFox and IE which can
be run?
Thank you!
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Maximillian
Schwanekamp
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:04 PM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] What is least expensive Mac to use as Web client QA
box
Mark Marlow wrote:
> What is the least expensive Mac and OS configuration I can use as a QA
> machine for client side testing of Web applications.
While I'm mighty tempted by that MacMini as well, if you're just lookin to
do some browser testing you can pick up a G3 with OS X for about $200 on
eBay. I got a blue-and-white G3 with OS X 10.2.3, and got a KVM switch
(USB!!) for $25 or so incl shipping (cf NewEgg.com), works great.
I'm also using it to play with PHP 5 and Apache 2. Amusingly, the G3 came
from another web dev, who was thinning his herd of Macs to justify picking
up a Windows machine for the same purpose of web app testing.
I must say, that even on this G3, OS X is superb. A good mix of consumer
slickness (e.g. iLife) and Unix power. If you can afford the few extra
clams for a new Mini, you will likely be pleased with the purchase.
--
Maximillian Von Schwanekamp
http://www.neptunewebworks.com/
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From ox4dboy at comcast.net Mon Jan 31 16:25:16 2005
From: ox4dboy at comcast.net (Jono)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:25:16 -0500
Subject: [thelist] What is least expensive Mac to use as Web client QA box
In-Reply-To: <3k70ii$m9sl5j@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>
References: <3k70ii$m9sl5j@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net>
Message-ID:
Yep. OS 8.6 Does not run Safari, or Firefox - both are built for OS X.
I think there amy be a FF solution for OS 9.x, but I am not certain of
that... the solution might be Mozilla? I can't remember what version
of IE will run on 8.6? The biggest limitation is that NOBODY uses OS
8.6 anymore, so your testing would not be very real-world." It would
be something like testing with IE $ and NS 4, you cold do it, but
nobody would benefit much. Most Mac users are using OS 9.x or OS
10.2.x/10.3.x, and I think more are now on OS 10.x.x than os 9.
On Jan 31, 2005, at 5:07 PM, Mark Marlow wrote:
> Thank you all for your suggestions. One common suggestion is to be
> sure
> that the MAC is running OS 10. What would be the limitation of
> running a
> G3 with Mac OS 8.6 with regards to client side web site testing?
>
> Does the OS version effect which version of Safari, FireFox and IE
> which can
> be run?
From RPringle at aurora-il.org Mon Jan 31 16:26:53 2005
From: RPringle at aurora-il.org (Pringle, Ron)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:26:53 -0600
Subject: [thelist] What is least expensive Mac to use as Web client QA
box
Message-ID:
Yes. Safari and, I believe, Firefox, will not run on OS 8 or 9. They both
require 10 to my knowledge.
Regards,
Ron
Ron Pringle
Web Developer
MIS, City of Aurora
> Thank you all for your suggestions. One common suggestion is
> to be sure
> that the MAC is running OS 10. What would be the limitation
> of running a
> G3 with Mac OS 8.6 with regards to client side web site testing?
>
> Does the OS version effect which version of Safari, FireFox
> and IE which can
> be run?
From Ken at adOpenStatic.com Mon Jan 31 16:27:47 2005
From: Ken at adOpenStatic.com (Ken Schaefer)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:27:47 +1100
Subject: [thelist] .asp pages not previewing on remote server
Message-ID: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF11E@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
: -----Original Message-----
: From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On
: Behalf Of Brian Cummiskey
: Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 6:04 AM
: To: Bruce Gilbert; thelist at lists.evolt.org
: Subject: Re: [thelist] .asp pages not previewing on remote server
:
: Bruce Gilbert wrote:
: > Hello,
: >
: > I have been trying to preview my .asp pages on my remote server via
: > dreamweaver and I get a 404 'page cannot be found error' when doing
: > this. I can preview .asp files fine on my local machine running IIS
: > and when I rename files with a .htm they preview fine from the remote
: > server. So that narrows it down to being an issue with the remote
: > server and .asp extensions.
: > I checked to make sure the files are indeed residing on the remote
: > server and they are there. Is this indeed a server setting issue or
: > might there be something else going on? I am not very accustomed to
: > .asp development.
:
: is it a 2k3 server? if so, asp is off by defualt, and asp.net is on
: instead.
Just to be clear, neither ASP nor ASP.NET is enabled by default on an IIS6
box unless you're upgrading it from an IIS5 box (in which case both will be
enabled by default, but the entire WWW Publishing Service will be stopped)
Cheers
Ken
From cgeorge at basecorp.com Mon Jan 31 16:31:47 2005
From: cgeorge at basecorp.com (Chris George)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:31:47 -0700
Subject: [thelist] What is least expensive Mac to use as Web client QA box
Message-ID: <6FC38116547DC24FAE1971330795194B17D969@basefs01.corp.basecorp.com>
> Thank you all for your suggestions. One common suggestion is
> to be sure that the MAC is running OS 10. What would be the
> limitation of running a
> G3 with Mac OS 8.6 with regards to client side web site testing?
>
> Does the OS version effect which version of Safari, FireFox
> and IE which can be run?
>
> Thank you!
Indeed it does - 8.6 is prolly the wintel equivalent of Windows For
Workgroups 3.11.
Other than IE 5.old (5.1.7 to be exact) and Netscape like 4.ancient, I
think there's not much more you can run on 8.6. :-P
Safari Requirements:
http://www.apple.com/safari/download/
IE 5.2.3 Requirements:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx?pid=download&location=/mac/D
OWNLOAD/IE/ie5_osx.xml&secid=30&ssid=10&flgnosysreq=True
FireFox Requirements:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/system-requirements.html
From email at timburgan.com Mon Jan 31 18:47:38 2005
From: email at timburgan.com (Tim Burgan)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:17:38 +1030
Subject: [thelist] What makes a good e-commerce website?
Message-ID: <41FED1AA.1000202@timburgan.com>
Hello,
I'd like to compile a list of features that make for a more user
friendly online shopping experience, so that we can all benefit by
incorporating them into our own e-commerce applications.
- Contact information of the seller (email, postal, phone, fax, etc).
- Secure server.
Please add to the list.
Tim
From skquinn at speakeasy.net Mon Jan 31 19:20:10 2005
From: skquinn at speakeasy.net (Shawn K. Quinn)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:20:10 -0600
Subject: [thelist] RE: blaster worm punishment
In-Reply-To: <20050130042154.55006.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050130042154.55006.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1107220810.14745.5.camel@xevious>
On Sat, 2005-01-29 at 20:21 -0800, Steven Streight wrote:
> We've all heard how the "teenager" who unleashed the
> Blaster worm, primarily against Microsoft, got only 18
> months jail time, court supervision for 3 years, and
> has to pay up to $1 million damages.
>
> I say he deserves much much harsher punishment, mainly
> because malicious code can potentially make a nation
> vulnerable to terrorist or criminal attack, can
> cripple an economy, can cause even death if a hospital
> network crashes, etc. etc.
I disagree here. If anything he was punished too harshly. (And no, I
don't think he deserves a commendation.) Microsoft is the one getting
away with it here, as their shoddy operating system design allowed this
to happen to begin with. You don't hear about worms attacking other
operating systems, do you?
Microsoft's attitude is akin to Ford saying "auto theft isn't a problem,
so we're not going to bother hardening the locks on our cars". Ford
would never get away with it.
> But internet crime, I feel, must be more harshly
> punished.
>
> Whadyathink?
This I agree to, if gross negligence in operating system design is an
Internet crime as well. Especially when the company involved repeatedly
engages in questionable if not outright illegal actions in an attempt to
maintain as close to a monopoly as they can, at the expense of the end
users.
--
Shawn K. Quinn
From Ken at adOpenStatic.com Tue Feb 1 01:04:25 2005
From: Ken at adOpenStatic.com (Ken Schaefer)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:04:25 +1100
Subject: OT Operating System Design WAS RE: [thelist] RE: blaster worm
punishment
Message-ID: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF120@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
: From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On
: Behalf Of Shawn K. Quinn
: Subject: Re: [thelist] RE: blaster worm punishment
:
: I disagree here. If anything he was punished too harshly. (And no, I
: don't think he deserves a commendation.) Microsoft is the one getting
: away with it here, as their shoddy operating system design allowed this
: to happen to begin with. You don't hear about worms attacking other
: operating systems, do you?
To Shawn:
What exactly is "shoddy" about the design of the OS itself?
To Richard:
You wrote "It's a fact that Windows never has been developed with any kind of
security in mind." I'm curious to know where you've found this fact, when the
overwhelming evidence is (as far as NT is concerned) that security is and was
definitely a major concern.
To Mac:
You wrote: "I blame Microsoft for most of this stuff - if they didn't release
intrinsically insecure operating systems..."
What's so intrinsically insecure about the NT operating system?
Cheers
Ken
Please do not say "making everyone an administrator" makes the OS
intrinsically insecure. It doesn't. There's no structural issue there in the
OS components that make it vulnerable to compromise.
From mwarden at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 01:20:51 2005
From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 02:20:51 -0500
Subject: OT Operating System Design WAS RE: [thelist] RE: blaster worm
punishment
In-Reply-To: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF120@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
References: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF120@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
Message-ID:
Everyone,
I think that if you want to continue this thread, it should be taken
to thechat -- or possibly a cage match. You can sign up for thechat
here:
http://lists.evolt.org/mailman/listinfo/thechat
You guys still all owe tips.
Oh, and to current thechat members: sorry.
Google supports adding rel="nofollow" to anchors, and others (Yahoo!,
MSN, etc.) said they were going to support it at some point as well.
It might be something to consider if you have a blog and dislike
comment spam.
Of course, there is something wrong with telling a search engine
spider not to spider links in comments on your blog, as it will
obviously mean that legitimate links are not followed either.
Still, it might be something you consider doing.
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:04:25 +1100, Ken Schaefer wrote:
> To Shawn:
> What exactly is "shoddy" about the design of the OS itself?
>
> To Richard:
> You wrote "It's a fact that Windows never has been developed with any kind of
> security in mind." I'm curious to know where you've found this fact, when the
> overwhelming evidence is (as far as NT is concerned) that security is and was
> definitely a major concern.
>
> To Mac:
> You wrote: "I blame Microsoft for most of this stuff - if they didn't release
> intrinsically insecure operating systems..."
> What's so intrinsically insecure about the NT operating system?
--
Matt Warden
Miami University
Oxford, OH, USA
http://mattwarden.com
This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy.
From kalos at carolina.rr.com Tue Feb 1 01:27:42 2005
From: kalos at carolina.rr.com (Benjamin Tilley)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:27:42 -0500
Subject: OT Operating System Design WAS RE: [thelist] RE: blaster worm
punishment
In-Reply-To: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF120@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
References: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF120@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
Message-ID: <41FF2F6E.1070907@carolina.rr.com>
I'm adding this sender to my kill-list until such time a coherent and
somewhat relevant string of thoughts can be formulated. Should the
sender find pittance and generate tips enough to become atoned the
blacklist status will be removed. (An overly articulate way of saying,
"This is re-freaking-diculous. Start a blog but keep it off the list.)
Apache: http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi
Perl: http://activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/
mod_perl: http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/os/win32/install.html
OpenSSL: http://www.slproweb.com/products/Win32OpenSSL.html
mod_ssl: http://www.erm.tu-cottbus.de/mod_ssl.html
PHP: http://www.php.net/downloads.php
# note: I have had no issues with Apache 2 and PHP 5 not working like a
champ.
From vaspersthegrate at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 01:38:21 2005
From: vaspersthegrate at yahoo.com (Steven Streight)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:38:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [thelist] RE: [OT] {TIP} blaster worm punishment
Message-ID: <20050201073821.17175.qmail@web53504.mail.yahoo.com>
I didn't mean to start a war for or against Microsoft.
Please, since I started this thread, if you comment, I
wish you'd stick to this:
Are writers of malicious, detrimental code, or anyone
who deliberately damages, or destroys the personal
computers, or corporate networks, of innocent people,
to be punished more harshly than 18 months in jail and
a fine?
I would not go up to your computer and smash it with a
sledgehammer, then say, those damn monitor makers,
using cheap glass again, why won't they use
bullet-proof plexi?
I personally am repulsed and deeply disturbed by the
argument, "such and such software company shouldn't
make OS with lots of security holes".
You're right. We know it was likely an attempt to give
consumers lots of privileges and ignoring security
risks, so as to be popular and sell sell sell.
I dunno.
But that's not the real issue.
Again: women maybe are not smart to dress sexually
provocative, but that doesn't mean that rapists are to
be treated with "understanding their mental illness
and loneliness" and thus punished lightly.
>From a news report on PC WORLD:
"Judge Pechman could have sentenced Parson to as long
as 37 months in prison but chose the lighter sentence
based on Parson's age, history of mental illness, and
lack of parental supervision, according to the
statement distributed by prosecutors.
The judge restricted him from using computers for
anything but educational or business purposes,
specifically forbidding video games and chat rooms."
This is bleeding heart BS to me. Poor lonely worm
writer, indeed. I hate this twerp. How many PCs did he
damage or destroy?
A list
of links to other sites, called blogrolls in blog
sites, and just usually just links in web sites, is a
way to convey credibility to users. Users may judge a
web or blog site by what other sites you endorse in
your list of sites. Choose them carefully. Be sure to
list reputable sites with relevant content, to make
your own site look more credible and to make your site
more valuable as a resource for users.
=====
Steven Streight
Web Usability Analyst & Content Writer
Blogologist
Digital Media Artist
Virtual Instrument Music Composer
http://www.vaspersthegrate.blogspot.com
http://www.streightsite.blogspot.com
http://www.arttestexplosion.blogspot.com
EMAIL: vaspersthegrate at yahoo.com
__________________________________
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From vaspersthegrate at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 01:54:39 2005
From: vaspersthegrate at yahoo.com (Steven Streight)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:54:39 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [thelist] RE: contacting Evolt admins
Message-ID: <20050201075439.74548.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
I'm sorry, but I've been up working for nearly 24
hours straight through, ran a seminar today by myself,
lots going on...
...and even though I went to the Evolt web site and
examined the List email message trails provided on
Yahoo email x-ray whatever...
...I can't find out how to contact the Evolt
administrators.
I keep getting The [evolt] List members telling me or
others to STOP posting on the topic thread I started
on "blaster worm punishment".
If I get a RE: ADMIN Evolt or similar From line in my
email, then I'll know that I *must* obey the
suggestion to stop posting on a thread, too much
flaming going on or whatever.
Please bear with me.
How do I contact the Evolt Admins?
Why would an Evolt member command another member to
"stop posting on this, go start a blog, etc."???
Heck, just don't open any email on a thread you don't
like others to debate vigorously but politely.
Two banana at best.
=====
Steven Streight
Web Usability Analyst & Content Writer
Blogologist
Digital Media Artist
Virtual Instrument Music Composer
http://www.vaspersthegrate.blogspot.com
http://www.streightsite.blogspot.com
http://www.arttestexplosion.blogspot.com
EMAIL: vaspersthegrate at yahoo.com
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
From jasonh at corestar.co.uk Tue Feb 1 02:49:25 2005
From: jasonh at corestar.co.uk (Jason Handby)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:49:25 -0000
Subject: [thelist] RE: contacting Evolt admins
In-Reply-To: <20050201075439.74548.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050201084920.8A99BE0002F5@galaxy.systems.pipex.net>
Hi Steven, everyone,
> Why would an Evolt member command another member to "stop
> posting on this, go start a blog, etc."???
>
> Heck, just don't open any email on a thread you don't like
> others to debate vigorously but politely.
The reason I like the evolt list is because it's concise, helpful and
actually focused on real questions about real development issues. I like the
fact that it's not full of ranting arguments, like so many other lists I
subscribe to or have done in the past.
There was a time when I loved ranting at great length on mailing lists.
(Just ask anyone who was on Brighton New Media a few years ago.) These days
I've realized that I see the world a certain way, other people see it in
their own ways, and there's no point in our endlessly arguing about it. We
all have work to do, and if we can help each other to get it done then
that's great. And that's why I like evolt so much. Most of the time it's a
list for grown-ups.
Please, people, take a moment to breathe and relax and think about whether
this conversation is contributing to evolt, and to the working lives of the
people who subscribe to it. And if you really want to carry on with it then
please consider doing it somewhere else.
Oh, and I hope we'll see a flood of tips over the next few days. Good ones,
not just made-up flimsy ones to make you feel less guilty. (I posted a free
tip yesterday and I'm cashing it in now! :-) )
Jason
From alex at deltatraffic.co.uk Tue Feb 1 05:58:10 2005
From: alex at deltatraffic.co.uk (Alex Beston)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 11:58:10 +0000
Subject: [thelist] What makes a good e-commerce website?
In-Reply-To: <41FED1AA.1000202@timburgan.com>
References: <41FED1AA.1000202@timburgan.com>
Message-ID: <41FF6ED2.9000008@deltatraffic.co.uk>
search facilty from the product list.....
pictures of the staff, ceo's and the products, warehouses.
dont think thats relevant?
check here:
http://www.dawsonbooks.co.uk/about/v_tour.html
they seem to think it is.
Alex
> I'd like to compile a list of features that make for a more user
> friendly online shopping experience, so that we can all benefit by
> incorporating them into our own e-commerce applications.
>
> - Contact information of the seller (email, postal, phone, fax, etc).
> - Secure server.
--
Alex Beston
Business Director
deltaTraffic
Tel: 01273 691234
Room 32, Level 6,
New England House,
Brighton, England
www.deltatraffic.co.uk
--
From Ken at adOpenStatic.com Tue Feb 1 06:19:55 2005
From: Ken at adOpenStatic.com (Ken Schaefer)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:19:55 +1100
Subject: [thelist] What makes a good e-commerce website?
Message-ID: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF125@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
There's always a risk when you start putting this sort of information online
- people attempting social engineering attacks may make use of this
information. For anything beyond a small organisation where everyone knows
everyone, I would be extremely wary about putting this type of information up
on the web in anything more than a very cursory form.
Cheers
Ken
: -----Original Message-----
: From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On
: Behalf Of Alex Beston
: Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 10:58 PM
: To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
: Subject: Re: [thelist] What makes a good e-commerce website?
:
: pictures of the staff, ceo's and the products, warehouses.
:
: dont think thats relevant?
:
: check here:
:
: http://www.dawsonbooks.co.uk/about/v_tour.html
:
: they seem to think it is.
:
: Alex
:
: > I'd like to compile a list of features that make for a more user
: > friendly online shopping experience, so that we can all benefit by
: > incorporating them into our own e-commerce applications.
: >
: > - Contact information of the seller (email, postal, phone, fax, etc).
: > - Secure server.
From jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com Tue Feb 1 07:04:41 2005
From: jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com (Jay Blanchard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:04:41 -0600
Subject: [thelist] RE: [OT] {TIP} blaster worm punishment
Message-ID:
[snip]
How many PCs did he damage or destroy?
[/snip]
None. No hardware was physically damaged AFAIK by the release of the
worm. No lives were lost as a direct result. The systems that were
invaded suffered software problems, but were all capable of being
restored. No doubt that it costs time and money. See my previous posts
about automobile recalls.
Please take this to another list, like thechat, where it is more
appropriate. Gosh! (channeling Napoleon Dynamite)
There are tons of mailing lists available on the net, each with a
specific purpose. Even with that being the case there are some basic
rules posters should follow....
1. Make sure your post is appropriate for the list in question.
JavaScript questions to a PHP list will most certainly get you flamed.
2. Because it's bad.
Why?
Don't top post.
3. When responding to a post snip the relevant parts for your response,
it will read much more cleanly.
4. Ask smart questions http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
5. STFW, RTFM and STFA before posting. People that are on lists like to
know that you tried to help yourself before you posted. Remember, the
folks on lists like this who help you get paid just as much as you do to
be here.
From alex at deltatraffic.co.uk Tue Feb 1 07:05:23 2005
From: alex at deltatraffic.co.uk (Alex Beston)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:05:23 +0000
Subject: [thelist] What makes a good e-commerce website?
In-Reply-To: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF125@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
References: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF125@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
Message-ID: <41FF7E93.7060409@deltatraffic.co.uk>
Ken Schaefer wrote:
>There's always a risk when you start putting this sort of information online
>- people attempting social engineering attacks may make use of this
>information.
>
Care to eleborate?
--
Alex Beston
Business Director
deltaTraffic
Tel: 01273 691234
Room 32, Level 6,
New England House,
Brighton, England
www.deltatraffic.co.uk
--
From dan.mccullough at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 07:31:10 2005
From: dan.mccullough at gmail.com (Dan McCullough)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:31:10 -0500
Subject: [thelist] What makes a good e-commerce website?
In-Reply-To: <41FF7E93.7060409@deltatraffic.co.uk>
References: <160489103479AB4892187638EE7D1E690EF125@kjserver1.kjhome.local>
<41FF7E93.7060409@deltatraffic.co.uk>
Message-ID:
A site that works each and every time, correct pricing, correct
shipping calculations, quick, intuitive. :) At least thats the
complaints I get all the time.
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:05:23 +0000, Alex Beston wrote:
> Ken Schaefer wrote:
>
> >There's always a risk when you start putting this sort of information online
> >- people attempting social engineering attacks may make use of this
> >information.
> >
> Care to eleborate?
>
> --
> Alex Beston
> Business Director
> deltaTraffic
> Tel: 01273 691234
> Room 32, Level 6,
> New England House,
> Brighton, England
> www.deltatraffic.co.uk
> --
>
> --
>
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From richard.bennett at skynet.be Tue Feb 1 07:48:15 2005
From: richard.bennett at skynet.be (Richard Bennett)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:48:15 +0100
Subject: [thelist] What makes a good e-commerce website?
In-Reply-To: <41FED1AA.1000202@timburgan.com>
References: <41FED1AA.1000202@timburgan.com>
Message-ID: <200502011448.15680.richard.bennett@skynet.be>
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 01:47, Tim Burgan wrote:
> Please add to the list.
Give the option to order by email or telephone.
As a repeat customer of my registrar I simply send them a mail
"Hi, please register xxx.xxx and point it to these nameservers xxx, thanks."
far easier than ploughing through a multi-page form.
Also, remember that (especially outside US) not everybody has a credit card,
and of those that have, many are reluctant to use it online, so they'll
research their purchase on your site, and then go out and buy it in the
store.
Offer POD (payment on delivery) where possible, as well as check,
international money order and bank transfer.
Don't go overboard validating the input data, there's nothing more iritating
than a form that refuses to submit because the office-fax box is left empty.
Allow freeform address-writing, just one multi-line box for the address. It's
a lot faster than scrolling through long dropdown boxes, especially if they
don't contain the values you need.
Richard.
From don at aspalliance.com Tue Feb 1 07:57:43 2005
From: don at aspalliance.com (Don Makoviney)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:57:43 -0500
Subject: [thelist] Podcasting
In-Reply-To: <200502011448.15680.richard.bennett@skynet.be>
Message-ID:
I have a couple niche market that could sites that may be interested in
Podcasting.
Has anyone on the list seen any good business case type articles on
Podcasting?
Thanks,
Don Makoviney
From RRust at COVANSYS.com Tue Feb 1 08:00:02 2005
From: RRust at COVANSYS.com (RUST Randal)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:00:02 -0500
Subject: [thelist] JSP Help
Message-ID: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DC6D@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
I don't know JSP, but can't this block...
buf.append("")
buf.append("")
buf.append("")
buf.append("")
buf.append("Check Number | ");
buf.append("Payment Date | ");
buf.append("Check Amount | ");
buf.append("Payment Type | ");
buf.append("Status | ");
buf.append("In Letter | ");
buf.append("Check Details | ");
buf.append(" ")
buf.append("")
...be written as...
buf.append("
Check Number |
Payment Date |
Check Amount |
Payment Type |
Status |
In Letter |
Check Details |
")
TIA.
----------
Randal Rust
Covansys Corporation
Columbus, OH
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From juha.suni at ilmiantajat.fi Tue Feb 1 07:59:27 2005
From: juha.suni at ilmiantajat.fi (Juha Suni)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:59:27 +0200
Subject: [thelist] RE: [OT] blaster worm punishment
References: <20050131161411.35813.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <043601c50866$3ea0f730$3300a8c0@tavutykki>
Steven Streight wrote:
> For those who don't like any mention of "terrorists",
> thinking it merely a Republican buzzword: The juiciest
> target for terrorists is the internet and networked
> systems of anybody who doesn't agree with them.
Quoting Bruce Schneier (www.schneier.com), Founder and CTO of Counterpane
Internet Security Inc, author of the popular Crypto-Gram Newsletter:
"We know what terrorism is. It's someone blowing himself up in a crowded
restaurant, or flying an airplane into a skyscraper. It's not infecting
computers with viruses, forcing air traffic controllers to route planes
manually, or shutting down a pager network for a day. That causes annoyance
and irritation, not terror.
This is a difficult message for some, because these days anyone who causes
widespread damage is being given the label "terrorist.""
This is a bit out of context, so I suggest you read his full article at
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0306.html
To show a graphical progress bar showing the progress while a time-consuming
script (mass-emailer of a newsletter, for example) is running, you can use
the flush()-function to push more data to the browser while the script is
running. This data being elements for small pieces of the progress
bar, you can rather easily have a universal solution for all heavy scripts:
(Please note: on some occasions, the webserver, proxy or the client browser
can buffer data no matter what you do, so this will not work 100% for
everyone at every situation)
ob_end_flush(); // This should be called at start
// Load all data and process it ready for looping
// Do some preliminary calculations, such as:
$totalloops = 38;
$percent_per_loop = 100 / $totalloops;
$prev_percent = 0;
// print html/css for the part above the progress bar
// as well as possible background of the actual progress bar
// in such a way that the images for the progress bar (coming next)
// align themselves nicely
// (This example fits 100 images next to each other, each representing
// 1 percent of progress.
// Start looping:
for($i=1;$i<=$totalloops;$i++) {
// do stuff
// echo progress if at least an advance of 1 percent occured since last
loop
$percent_now = round($i * $percent_per_loop);
if($percent_now != $percent_last) {
$difference = $percent_now - $percent_last;
for($j=1;$j<=$difference;$j++) {
echo ' ';
}
$percent_last = $percent_now;
flush(); // Push the new data to the browser;
}
}
// In the end print necessary code to the end of the html.
From rob.smith at THERMON.com Tue Feb 1 08:04:28 2005
From: rob.smith at THERMON.com (Rob Smith)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:04:28 -0600
Subject: [thelist] What makes a good e-commerce website?
Message-ID: <0CEC8258A6E4D611BE5400306E1CC92703E7D0C5@smtmb.tmc.local>
>I'd like to compile a list of features that make for a more user
>friendly online shopping experience, so that we can all benefit by
>incorporating them into our own e-commerce applications.
We recently discussed this in one of my Masters classes. We came up with:
* Not having to register yourself before you select your items
* Having a shopping cart that actually remembers your selections given the
first bullet in mind.
* Not having a complicated form
* When you're browsing categories of items, when you click Add, you place
one (1) item into your cart. However, if you're on the item detail page you
can add X number of items to your cart.
* If you show quantities available, decrement that number as people are
putting things in their cart. However, if the customer does not proceed to
checkout, the system releases the item and restores the quantity in a short
period of time; usually 10-20 minutes.
* Provide the ability to accept and remember credit card information based
upon the user.
... pretty much what Amazon.com does. Actually, I'm in the process of
building a shopping cart system at home and I'm incorporating these features
and others as they come up.
Rob
From jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com Tue Feb 1 08:09:20 2005
From: jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com (Jay Blanchard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:09:20 -0600
Subject: [thelist] JSP Help
Message-ID:
[snip]
I don't know JSP, but can't this block...
buf.append("")
buf.append("")
buf.append("")
buf.append("")
buf.append("Check Number | ");
buf.append("Payment Date | ");
buf.append("Check Amount | ");
buf.append("Payment Type | ");
buf.append("Status | ");
buf.append("In Letter | ");
buf.append("Check Details | ");
buf.append(" ")
buf.append("")
...be written as...
buf.append("
Check Number |
Payment Date |
Check Amount |
Payment Type |
Status |
In Letter |
Check Details |
")
[/snip]
Have you tried it?
From jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com Tue Feb 1 08:13:44 2005
From: jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com (Jay Blanchard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:13:44 -0600
Subject: [thelist] Podcasting
Message-ID:
[snip]
I have a couple niche market that could sites that may be interested in
Podcasting.
Has anyone on the list seen any good business case type articles on
Podcasting?
[/snip]
Google podcasting business returns several articles, this looks
informative....
http://www.business2.com/b2/web/articles/0,17863,781801,00.html
From RRust at COVANSYS.com Tue Feb 1 08:48:50 2005
From: RRust at COVANSYS.com (RUST Randal)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:48:50 -0500
Subject: [thelist] JSP Help
Message-ID: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DCA9@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
Jay Blanchard wrote:
> Have you tried it?
Good question. But I actually can't. The team is just sending me the
pages to modify, and this particular one uses JSP to create the table. I
make the mods and send them back for release into the environment.
----------
Randal Rust
Covansys Corporation
Columbus, OH
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From fuzzylizard at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 08:49:19 2005
From: fuzzylizard at gmail.com (Chris Johnston)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:49:19 -0500
Subject: [thelist] JSP Help
In-Reply-To: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DC6D@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
References: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DC6D@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
Message-ID:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:00:02 -0500, RUST Randal wrote:
> I don't know JSP, but can't this block...
>
> buf.append("")
> buf.append("")
> buf.append("")
> buf.append("")
> buf.append("Check Number | ");
> buf.append("Payment Date | ");
> buf.append("Check Amount | ");
> buf.append("Payment Type | ");
> buf.append("Status | ");
> buf.append("In Letter | ");
> buf.append("Check Details | ");
> buf.append(" ")
> buf.append("")
>
> ...be written as...
>
> buf.append("
>
>
>
>
> Check Number |
> Payment Date |
> Check Amount |
> Payment Type |
> Status |
> In Letter |
> Check Details |
>
>
> ")
>
Yes, although I am not sure how the added white space may translate to
the final html page.
--
chris johnston
www.fuzzylizard.com
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals and
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination, we
learned to talk."
Pink Floyd
From byates at emich.edu Tue Feb 1 08:49:45 2005
From: byates at emich.edu (Ben Yates)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:49:45 -0500
Subject: [thelist] wordpress and smtp
In-Reply-To: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DC6D@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
References: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DC6D@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
Message-ID: <41FF9709.2000406@emich.edu>
Wordpress (blogging utility) has a plugin that puts an "email this
post" link next to each post. It requires an SMTP server, though, and
the host doesn't provide one (neither does my ISP). Are services like
smtp.com any good? They're 10 bucks a month -- more than half as much
as the hosting plan itself -- and that's for 50 relays a day
(conciavably we could get slashdotted or boingboinged or something, and
go over the limit). Any other options?
From dean.mah at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 09:07:22 2005
From: dean.mah at gmail.com (Dean Mah)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:07:22 -0700
Subject: [thelist] RE: contacting Evolt admins
In-Reply-To: <20050201075439.74548.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20050201075439.74548.qmail@web53503.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 23:54:39 -0800 (PST), Steven Streight
wrote:
> How do I contact the Evolt Admins?
You can e-mail content at lists.evolt.org or use the contact form on the
evolt.org site. The "official" list owner (dmah at shaw.ca) has also
been known to respond directly to issues if brought to his attention.
Also, please note that adding a tip to the end of your post does not
excuse posting off-topic posts or continuing to post off-topic.
Please use thechat list for all issues not directly related to Web
development.
Thanks,
Dean
From steve at plankdesign.com Tue Feb 1 09:17:28 2005
From: steve at plankdesign.com (Steve Bissonnette)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:17:28 -0500
Subject: [thelist] Multi-sheet Excel file from with PHP ?
Message-ID:
Anyone know if it?s possible to create a multi-sheet Excel file from with
PHP ?
(This is PHP on a barebones Unix server ? so using COM object?s isn?t
possible)
Looked into,
http://www.web-aware.com/biff/
But it doesn?t do multiple sheets yet.
I also found ..
http://paggard.com/projects/xls.generator/
But it costs 100$ US
Would prefer not to pay for a solution but will If I have too !
Thanks for any leads ..
Steve
--
steve bissonnette
steve at plankdesign.com
PLANK. A multi-faceted-media company.
http://www.plankdesign.com
v. 514.875.0003 f. 514.875.7611
From jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com Tue Feb 1 09:28:22 2005
From: jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com (Jay Blanchard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:28:22 -0600
Subject: [thelist] Multi-sheet Excel file from with PHP ?
Message-ID:
[snip]
Anyone know if it?s possible to create a multi-sheet Excel file from with
PHP ?
(This is PHP on a barebones Unix server ? so using COM object?s isn?t
possible)
Looked into,
http://www.web-aware.com/biff/
But it doesn?t do multiple sheets yet.
I also found ..
http://paggard.com/projects/xls.generator/
But it costs 100$ US
Would prefer not to pay for a solution but will If I have too !
Thanks for any leads ..
[/snip]
docs http://search.cpan.org/src/JMCNAMARA/Spreadsheet-WriteExcel-0.37/WriteExcel/doc/WriteExcel.html
more info http://www.php-editors.com/pear_manual/p_package.fileformats.spreadsheet-excel-writer.intro.html
From Brian at hondaswap.com Tue Feb 1 09:34:50 2005
From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:34:50 -0500
Subject: [thelist] Multi-sheet Excel file from with PHP ?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <41FFA19A.3060105@hondaswap.com>
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/php-apps-excel-worksheet-server
http://www.google.com/custom?domains=www.phpclasses.org&q=excel&sa=Search&sitesearch=www.phpclasses.org&client=pub-2951707118576741&forid=1&channel=5742870948&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23663399%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23222222%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AA3C5CC%3BLBGC%3AA3C5CC%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A256%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Ffiles.phpclasses.org%2Fgraphics%2Fgooglesearch.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.phpclasses.org%2Fsearch.html%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en
you may have to register (free) for the 2nd link.
Steve Bissonnette wrote:
> Anyone know if it?s possible to create a multi-sheet Excel file from with
> PHP ?
> (This is PHP on a barebones Unix server ? so using COM object?s isn?t
> possible)
From ox4dboy at comcast.net Tue Feb 1 09:38:28 2005
From: ox4dboy at comcast.net (Jono)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:38:28 -0500
Subject: [thelist] Video playback.
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <51912C22-7467-11D9-9158-000A95A59E8A@comcast.net>
Simply create a new html page, with your HUGE movie in it, and then
save it. Now link that page with the links in your nav frame. That is
the bare bones explanation. I do not use frames...EVER, so I am not
sure about the exact frame coding, but I know it is pretty simple.
Essentially each frame is its own html page. As fro gettig the vide to
play, it depends on the file type.
Copy and Paste:
javascript:term=prompt('Search%20thelist%20Archives:');if(term!
=null){location='http://www.google.com/search?
as_q='+term+'&as_sitesearch=archivist.incutio.com&safe=on&submit=Go';}
into your browser, and do a search.
On Jan 31, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Barry Dowling wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm after a little guidance. I'm putting together a DVD presentation
> using Dreamweaver. I have a page that has two frames. One menu frame
> and the
> other a content frame. When a link in the menu frame is clicked, I
> want the
> video file to playback automatically the full size of the content
> frame. The
> content frame size is 750px x 690px. What is the best way to accomplish
> this?
From hassan at webtuitive.com Tue Feb 1 09:45:43 2005
From: hassan at webtuitive.com (Hassan Schroeder)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:45:43 -0800
Subject: [thelist] JSP Help
In-Reply-To:
References: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DC6D@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
Message-ID: <41FFA427.5040508@webtuitive.com>
Chris Johnston wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:00:02 -0500, RUST Randal wrote:
>
>>I don't know JSP, but can't this block...
> Yes, although I am not sure how the added white space may translate to
> the final html page.
Maybe this is compiler-specific, but I didn't think that would work,
and sure enough, it doesn't for me (Tomcat 5.5.4).
Exception:
An error occurred at line: 19 in the jsp file: /buf.jsp
Generated servlet error:
String literal is not properly closed by a double-quote
But who cares? Anyone putting markup into Java code like that, or
for that matter putting a construct like that into JSP...
Words fail :-)
--
Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- hassan at webtuitive.com
Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com
dream. code.
From ftarzwell at fayec.com Tue Feb 1 09:56:40 2005
From: ftarzwell at fayec.com (Flavia Tarzwell (FayeC))
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 10:56:40 -0500
Subject: [thelist] Researching other markets
Message-ID: <41FFA6B8.4020201@fayec.com>
I have been asked to create and maintain a full site with CMS features
and all but the catch is that it is for a company in another country....
They want an estimate for the site and the maintenance and I don't want
to scare them off if the reasonable market price here (US/Canada) is way
more than what they are used to paying there.....
Of course that if the fair market price there is way superior I can just
stick to my price here and be competitive there (although I am sure the
local developers won't like that low priced competition)....
What is the procedure to get the market price for a different country
without breaking any of the laws regarding the non-discussion of
pricing, etc....
And for those who have been in this situation....what did you do??
Thanks again in advance,
FayeC
From RRust at COVANSYS.com Tue Feb 1 10:15:52 2005
From: RRust at COVANSYS.com (RUST Randal)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:15:52 -0500
Subject: [thelist] JSP Help
Message-ID: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DD18@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
> But who cares? Anyone putting markup into Java code like
> that, or for that matter putting a construct like that into JSP...
Just for my own edification, how should it be done then?
----------
Randal Rust
Covansys Corporation
Columbus, OH
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From dan.mccullough at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 10:50:13 2005
From: dan.mccullough at gmail.com (Dan McCullough)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:50:13 -0500
Subject: [thelist] apache rewrite? I guess
Message-ID:
I need to make sure on the URLs that in certain directories that / is
replaced by /index.jsp.
thoughts?
From ashiel at sportsinteraction.com Tue Feb 1 10:59:55 2005
From: ashiel at sportsinteraction.com (Drew Shiel)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:59:55 +0000
Subject: [thelist] RE: common key to good sites
In-Reply-To: <1106991587.41fb59e3a9ab4@webmail.soton.ac.uk>
References: <20050129085755.64525.qmail@web53510.mail.yahoo.com>
<20050129085755.64525.qmail@web53510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20050201165825.03412ec0@mail.sportsinteraction.com>
At 09:39 29/01/2005, D.B.Smith at soton.ac.uk wrote:
>It's usually pretty easy to recognise a site that has been put together
>without any thought, and I think you'll find that good web sites have
>forethought in spades. People don't plan to fail, they just fail to plan.
It does depend on what you mean by forethought. Slashdot and Livejournal
are both hugely successful, and had very little in the way of planning,
intention of success - no matter how you measure it, or intention to make
money.
Drew.
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From hassan at webtuitive.com Tue Feb 1 11:04:26 2005
From: hassan at webtuitive.com (Hassan Schroeder)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:04:26 -0800
Subject: [thelist] JSP Help
In-Reply-To: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DD18@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
References: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DD18@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
Message-ID: <41FFB69A.4010609@webtuitive.com>
RUST Randal wrote:
> Just for my own edification, how should it be done then?
Separation of data, presentation and logic (the MVC pattern) would
say just put that in *as HTML*. Your example had *no* variable data
within it at all, which makes it even worse :-)
Why have, for instance, this:
<%
StringBuffer buf = new StringBuffer();
buf.append("");
buf.append("");
buf.append("");
buf.append("Check Number | ");
buf.append("Payment Date | ");
buf.append("Check Amount | ");
buf.append("Payment Type | ");
buf.append("Status | ");
buf.append("In Letter | ");
buf.append("Check Details | ");
buf.append(" ");
buf.append("");
buf.append(" ");
out.println(buf.toString());
%>
to simply create
Check Number | .... when you can do it
directly? (and use the validation, syntax highlighting, etc. of
your preferred tool set, as well)
The whole *point* of JSP is to remove the need for things like that
first example...
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From Brian at hondaswap.com Tue Feb 1 11:18:11 2005
From: Brian at hondaswap.com (Brian Cummiskey)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:18:11 -0500
Subject: [thelist] RE: common key to good sites
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20050201165825.03412ec0@mail.sportsinteraction.com>
References: <20050129085755.64525.qmail@web53510.mail.yahoo.com>
<20050129085755.64525.qmail@web53510.mail.yahoo.com>
<5.2.1.1.0.20050201165825.03412ec0@mail.sportsinteraction.com>
Message-ID: <41FFB9D3.7070906@hondaswap.com>
Drew Shiel wrote:
> It does depend on what you mean by forethought. Slashdot and
> Livejournal are both hugely successful, and had very little in the way
> of planning, intention of success - no matter how you measure it, or
> intention to make money.
The same goes for my site too. I started as a network54 forum. i now
have a dedicated server, 35,000 members, and gobs of traffic. I never
'planned' on it taking off. And i think that is key-
To develop along with the growth, and to develop FOR the growth.
From court3nay at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:22:39 2005
From: court3nay at gmail.com (Courtenay)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 04:22:39 +1100
Subject: [thelist] apache rewrite? I guess
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <4b430c8f05020109227a7681aa@mail.gmail.com>
I think you're probably looking for DirectoryIndex
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html
"Several URLs may be given, in which case the server will return the
first one that it finds."
So you'd put DirectoryIndex index.jsp index.htm index.html
.. or whatever
and if index.jsp exists, it will be returned rather than the html (or php, etc)
> I need to make sure on the URLs that in certain directories that / is
> replaced by /index.jsp.
>
> thoughts?
> --
From RRust at COVANSYS.com Tue Feb 1 11:26:12 2005
From: RRust at COVANSYS.com (RUST Randal)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:26:12 -0500
Subject: [thelist] JSP Help
Message-ID: <1A729C6059E7CD4CA1DFE3985E6004210894DD89@fth-ex02.CVNS.corp.covansys.com>
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
> Separation of data, presentation and logic (the MVC pattern)
> would say just put that in *as HTML*. Your example had *no*
> variable data within it at all, which makes it even worse :-)
> The whole *point* of JSP is to remove the need for things
> like that first example...
Thanks, Hassan. I would have done this as you suggested. In fact, I do
it all the time in PHP. I'm not sure what the thinking was behind this
particular JSP page.
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From thelist at summit7solutions.com Tue Feb 1 11:28:17 2005
From: thelist at summit7solutions.com (Jeff Wilhelm)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:28:17 -0500
Subject: [thelist] VOIP / Project Question (UPDATE)
Message-ID:
Just wanted to let you all know that this project is complete, and ready to
deploy to Kosovo!
A few pictures here:
http://www.jeffwilhelm.com/?p=pictures&loadyear=2005&page=1
Thanks again for the help!
Jeff
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From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
Wilhelm Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 11:23 AM To:
thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: [thelist] VOIP /
Project Question (UPDATE)
> Thank you all again for your help. I think I've got it
> now!
>
> I've spent a lot of time researching the various pieces
> of this project, hoping to find some way to accomplish
> all of the goals. I've looked into 30 different VoIP
> packages, hundreds of telephones, and at least 100
> different software packges. I've had about 12 different
> ideas, many of which meet all but one of the
> requirements. A few hours ago I decided that it was
> impossible to do this cheaply using off the shelf
> software (auto-dial from imported CSV), and VoIP. So I
> wrote my own software.
>
> I don't think attachments are allowed, but basically it
> was done in Access using VBA. It shows the fields on the
> left, and a large Phone icon on the right. Hitting the
> large Phone icon will cause the phone to automatically
> dial whatever number is displayed out the modem. There
> will be a regular old $10 analog phone next to each
> laptop, which can be used just as a normal phone would
> be, except that the program does all the dialing. The
> arrows at the bottom allow the caller to increment
> forward and backward through the records. The program can
> also import any CSV file to be used as a source for this
> information.
>
> The only thing we don't know is the speed of the
> broadband that is available in Kosovo. We need to
> estimate that each phone will require about 100kb/s of
> upstream and downstream traffic. If there are four phones
> being used, there should be at least 400kb/s upstream and
> downstream. Two connections may be required if the
> broadband is too slow.
>
> The basic network infastructure will be like this:
>
> > ISP | -> | Cable Modem | -> | Router with 4-Port Switch
> > |
>
> And then for each phone / laptop combination we'd set it
> up like this:
>
> -> | Vonage ATA WAN Port |
> | Vonage ATA LAN Port | -> Laptop LAN Port
> | Vonage ATA PHONE Port | -> Phone Jack Splitter ->
> Laptop
Modem Jack -> Any
> Analog Phone
>
> This will enable the laptop and phone to be on the same
> phone line, which is why the laptop can do the
> auto-dialing, and the phone can be used as a normal
> phone. All calls will be completed using VoIP through
> Vonage. They have assured me this will work, even
> overseas.
>
> Thanks again!
> Jeff
From mwarden at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:28:50 2005
From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:28:50 -0500
Subject: [thelist] apache rewrite? I guess
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Actually, you don't need mod_rewrite for this.
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_dir.html#directoryindex
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:50:13 -0500, Dan McCullough
wrote:
> I need to make sure on the URLs that in certain directories that / is
> replaced by /index.jsp.
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From norman.bunn at craftedsolutions.com Tue Feb 1 11:45:18 2005
From: norman.bunn at craftedsolutions.com (Norman Bunn)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:45:18 -0500
Subject: [thelist] Database-less Forum SW
Message-ID: <41FFC02E.4060300@craftedsolutions.com>
Normally I stick with phpBB for forums and use mySQL, but I have a
prospect that has basic hosting with no database available. What are my
best alternatives for a forum that does not use a database? Traffic
should be minimal.
Thanks,
Norman
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From webguync at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 11:50:27 2005
From: webguync at gmail.com (Bruce Gilbert)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:50:27 -0500
Subject: [thelist] Re: .asp pages not previewing on remote server
Message-ID: <463b785d05020109503d01d46a@mail.gmail.com>
thanks for the responses. Yes, the server we are using is windows
2003, so proper configuration is in order.
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From vaspersthegrate at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 11:54:59 2005
From: vaspersthegrate at yahoo.com (Steven Streight)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:54:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [thelist] RE: contact Evolt admins AND blaster worm punishment
[SUMMARY]
Message-ID: <20050201175459.54128.qmail@web53505.mail.yahoo.com>
Okay.
Jason Handby: yes, I agree that Evolt is best when
directly discussing practical aspects of web dev and
web design. I will stick to that, so as not to waste
anyone's time with side issues. Very clear to me now.
Sorry.
Dean Mah: thank you very mucho grande for the contact
info to Evolt Admins. What a relief to have this
answer. IOU one.
Web sites
with lots of ads are prime candidates for implementing
a "Print Version" functionality. This enables users to
print out the information they need as hard copy,
without all the irrelevant commercial material
clutter. Good way to cause "stickiness" of site:
motivates users to return to site due to its info AND
its user-friendliness.
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From lists at semioticpixels.com Tue Feb 1 12:03:20 2005
From: lists at semioticpixels.com (chris hardy)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:03:20 -0800
Subject: [thelist] Researching other markets
In-Reply-To: <41FFA6B8.4020201@fayec.com>
Message-ID: <000301c50888$51d00950$6601a8c0@bluedew>
Faye,
Fair market pricing *where you live* can be closely tied to business
success.
American/Canadian companies don't charge Indian/Chinese/Russian/* rates
because our cost of doing business is higher and we can't survive in the US
at Indian/Chinese/* rates. It's not because we're greedy.
I would not try to compete on price. There is always someone who's cheaper
who provides the same service (or at least claims to).
That said, I would probably look for a website like Salary.com that lists
positions in that country to get a ballpark figure and then I would
determine whether I could afford to do business at a consultant's rate.
hth
-chris
From pixelmech at yahoo.com Tue Feb 1 12:19:22 2005
From: pixelmech at yahoo.com (Tom Dell'Aringa)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:19:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [thelist] PHP shopping cart recommendations?
Message-ID: <20050201181922.71913.qmail@web51407.mail.yahoo.com>
Hey everyone,
I'm tasked with building a cart for a client of mine, and we're using PHP. A custom site is being
built, so something like OSCommerce doesn't really work. I know php ok, but I'm no expert. Can
anyone recommend a good "plug in" cart that wouldn't be too much hair pulling to learn and add in
to our site? Open source or not isn't an issue - although I need to be able to play with it first
so it would at least need demo code.
I don't have much in the way of requirements other than they need to take payments in both US and
Israeli currency.
Please respond off list as well if you can, and TIA.
Tom
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From mwarden at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 12:42:08 2005
From: mwarden at gmail.com (Matt Warden)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:42:08 -0500
Subject: [thelist] apache rewrite? I guess
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Dan,
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:30:03 -0500, Dan McCullough
wrote:
> Yeah unfortunatly thats not what I need. I have DirectoryIndex setup
> however when someone puts in http://domain.com/ instead of
> http://domain.com/index.jsp it bombs because the creator of the
> servlets didnt take the slash with no index.jsp into account. I was
> looking for a quick way rather then pouring over his poorly written
> code.
Ah, I see. Sorry for the misunderstanding. How's something like this
for a band-aid:
RewriteEngine on
RewriteRule ^/$ /index.jsp [L]
Thjanks,
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From mr.sanders at designshift.com Tue Feb 1 12:50:57 2005
From: mr.sanders at designshift.com (Sarah Sweeney)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:50:57 -0400
Subject: [thelist] Form, Style and Internet Exploder
In-Reply-To: <662327341.20050130155157@earthling.net>
References: <662327341.20050130155157@earthling.net>
Message-ID: <41FFCF91.7060003@designshift.com>
> I'm writing an application which I want to style in a 2 column layout.
> No news there.
>
>
>
> Additionally the style of the textbox is modified to be a block level element to
> allow centering the element. And to keep it from fusing with its label I added
> the clear: both. (Clear: left would do the job as well...)
>
> * The problem is that it will slide under the end of the left navigation this way.
>
> This raises a general question: if for some reason you need to apply 'clear'
> anywhere in the content, can it be prevented that the whole page slides down to
> under a navigation block?
>
>
I was, coincidentally, going to send a very similar question when I saw
this one come through. I was very surprised that no replies came, even
just someone saying simply "can't be done". I'm guessing that having
elements floated within the second column of a two-column layout could
be pretty common, if it's possible. Does anyone know of a way to have a
clearing element within the second column without the rest of the
content in the second column falling below the first column?
I can set up a demo of what I mean, if necessary.
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From dan at danromanchik.com Tue Feb 1 13:11:53 2005
From: dan at danromanchik.com (Dan Romanchik)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:11:53 -0500
Subject: [thelist] PHP shopping cart recommendations?
References: <20050201181922.71913.qmail@web51407.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <024a01c50891$e44367b0$6501a8c0@D9J77B01>
I don't see why you can't still use OSCommerce or ZenCart. I'm adding an
online catalog to an existing website right now. I plan on giving the cart
it's own subdirectory and making it look just like the existing site. Should
work just fine.
Dan
p.s. Up to this point, I would have wholeheartedly endorsed ZenCart for this
kind of project. Unfortunately, I have something weird happening in an
existing installation (my ISP moved my site to another server, and the
credit card processing quit working) and the support forum has been no help
at all. A couple people tried helping, but once it got beyond their
capabilities, they just gave up and no one with any smarts about ZC
internals has stepped up to help.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Dell'Aringa"
To: "thelist"
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:19 PM
Subject: [thelist] PHP shopping cart recommendations?
> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm tasked with building a cart for a client of mine, and we're using PHP.
A custom site is being
> built, so something like OSCommerce doesn't really work. I know php ok,
but I'm no expert. Can
> anyone recommend a good "plug in" cart that wouldn't be too much hair
pulling to learn and add in
> to our site? Open source or not isn't an issue - although I need to be
able to play with it first
> so it would at least need demo code.
>
> I don't have much in the way of requirements other than they need to take
payments in both US and
> Israeli currency.
>
> Please respond off list as well if you can, and TIA.
>
> Tom
>
> =====
>
> http://www.pixelmech.com/
>
> It's got a cop motor: a 440 cubic inch plant. It's got cop tires, cop
suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so
it'll run good on regular gas. What do you say, is this the new Bluesmobile,
or what?
>
> --
>
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From spambait at onpointsolutions.com Tue Feb 1 13:16:29 2005
From: spambait at onpointsolutions.com (Bob Haroche)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:16:29 -0800
Subject: [thelist] Database-less Forum SW
References: <41FFC02E.4060300@craftedsolutions.com>
Message-ID: <006a01c50892$89130660$a7fea8c0@Laptop>
> Normally I stick with phpBB for forums and use mySQL, but I have a
> prospect that has basic hosting with no database available. What are my
> best alternatives for a forum that does not use a database? Traffic
> should be minimal.
I've used dcforum, which has a version that requires only perl and runs on
apache and iis.
http://www.dcscripts.com/dcforum.shtml
I use it here: http://www.ncan.org/CGI-BIN/dcforum/dcboard.cgi
Has lots of nice admin features.
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From thelist at si-designs.co.uk Tue Feb 1 13:49:38 2005
From: thelist at si-designs.co.uk (Simon Perry)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:49:38 +0000
Subject: [thelist] Form, Style and Internet Exploder
In-Reply-To: <41FFCF91.7060003@designshift.com>
References: <662327341.20050130155157@earthling.net>
<41FFCF91.7060003@designshift.com>
Message-ID: <41FFDD52.3060103@si-designs.co.uk>
Sarah Sweeney wrote:
>>
>>
>> Additionally the style of the textbox is modified to be a block level
>> element to
>> allow centering the element. And to keep it from fusing with its
>> label I added
>> the clear: both. (Clear: left would do the job as well...)
>>
>> * The problem is that it will slide under the end of the left
>> navigation this way.
>>
>> This raises a general question: if for some reason you need to apply
>> 'clear'
>> anywhere in the content, can it be prevented that the whole page
>> slides down to
>> under a navigation block?
>>
>>
>
>
> I was, coincidentally, going to send a very similar question when I
> saw this one come through. I was very surprised that no replies came,
> even just someone saying simply "can't be done". I'm guessing that
> having elements floated within the second column of a two-column
> layout could be pretty common, if it's possible. Does anyone know of a
> way to have a clearing element within the second column without the
> rest of the content in the second column falling below the first column?
>
> I can set up a demo of what I mean, if necessary.
>
Hi,
This sounds like issues with the IE box model and width rather than a
problem with floats and clear: elements. A demo page with a minimal test
case, concisely explained, with separate links to the CSS will prompt a
good response.
That is where the OP lost out.
The text rambles and is hard to follow.
The example link given has lots of layouts, which one are they on about?
The link provided is not the one used in the screen shot provided?
We get no clear idea of what the page should look like, does it render
correctly in any browser? If not then a mock up graphic mock up would be
useful.
Often the process of stripping a problem down to its minimal
constituents and explaining what you want to achieve in a clear concise
manner unlocks the answer anyway.
Simon
KISS
Or keep It Simple Stupid
When posting your question to the list keep it as simple as possible.
The problem may be fresh in your mind but it's unlikely to be so for others, even if they have faced the problem and fixed it in the past.
If you have several problems break them down and post them separately don't confuse issues.
Make sure that you explain yourself as clearly as you can in your best English.
Choose the most relevant subject line you can come up with.
From rob.smith at THERMON.com Tue Feb 1 14:14:28 2005
From: rob.smith at THERMON.com (Rob Smith)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:14:28 -0600
Subject: [thelist] PHP - Numeric Session ID's
Message-ID: <0CEC8258A6E4D611BE5400306E1CC92703E7D0CB@smtmb.tmc.local>
When you do (in ASP) response.write session.sessionID, you might get
861722675, which is perfect for assigning integer temporary customer id
int(4). However when you do echo session_id;, you might get
a39423b3243c3342e324db3343f45a23, 32 alphanumeric characters. All of a
sudden this doesn't work so well for the same data type. Your customer id at
this point becomes varchar(32).
So, temporarily I've done this:
if ($_SESSION["cid"] == "") {
$_SESSION["cid"] = rand()%999999999999999;
}
Sorry. I'm just used to working with customer is in the numeric form. Is
there really anything wrong with using the alphanumeric version on steroids?
Rob Smith
From cheryla at labx.com Tue Feb 1 14:25:46 2005
From: cheryla at labx.com (Cheryl Ash)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:25:46 -0500
Subject: [thelist] Html question on coldfusion
Message-ID: <858F9BD79E563F48ABA441785A8DE5C89BE8E9@main.geocalm.local>
I know a little CF, Hope this helps.
#Descricao#
#Descricao#
|
#Concelho# |
Cheryl Ash
-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Rui Madeira
Sent: January 31, 2005 10:58 AM
To: The List
Subject: [thelist] Html question on coldfusion
Hello to everyone rom Portugal
#Descricao# |
#Concelho# |
This is my script. What I need is that when the return in #Descri??o# is "something" it wouldn?t be transformed into a link
Can anybody help me?
Thank you in advanced
Rui Madeira
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From jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com Tue Feb 1 14:36:05 2005
From: jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com (Jay Blanchard)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:36:05 -0600
Subject: [thelist] PHP - Numeric Session ID's
Message-ID:
[snip]
Sorry. I'm just used to working with customer is in the numeric form. Is
there really anything wrong with using the alphanumeric version on
steroids?
[/snip]
I think a more thorough reading of the PHP session docs will help
you....
http://www.php.net/session
From jonathan at boehm-ritter.com Tue Feb 1 15:09:03 2005
From: jonathan at boehm-ritter.com (Jonathan Dillon)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:09:03 -0800
Subject: [thelist] PHP shopping cart recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <024a01c50891$e44367b0$6501a8c0@D9J77B01>
Message-ID: <20050201211340.6E910508009@mx1.nexiderm.com>
Dan -
> p.s. Up to this point, I would have wholeheartedly endorsed ZenCart for
this kind of project. Unfortunately, I have something weird happening in an
existing installation
Why don't you share what's up? I've done a lot of work with Zen Cart, as
have a lot of people on the list...
Jonathan
From dan.mccullough at gmail.com Tue Feb 1 15:19:33 2005
From: dan.mccullough at gmail.com (Dan McCullough)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:19:33 -0500
Subject: [thelist] PHP shopping cart recommendations?
In-Reply-To: <20050201211340.6E910508009@mx1.nexiderm.com>
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Ahh ya beat me to the punch :)
I'm sure there are a couple of guys here who can point you were to look.
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:09:03 -0800, Jonathan Dillon
wrote:
> Dan -
>
> > p.s. Up to this point, I would have wholeheartedly endorsed ZenCart for
> this kind of project. Unfortunately, I have something weird happening in an
> existing installation
>
> Why don't you share what's up? I've done a lot of work with Zen Cart, as
> have a lot of people on the list...
>
> Jonathan
>
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From chris at logorocks.com Tue Feb 1 15:20:04 2005
From: chris at logorocks.com (Chris Kavanagh)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:20:04 +0000
Subject: [thelist] Submit a form and shut the window
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Dear List,
I have a form in a little window, and it's supposed to update in the
main window. I guess I can do that using JavaScript: the form action
is the main page with a TARGET of the main window.
But that will leave the little window floating around. Is there any
way I can get the little b**tard to commit suicide once its work is
done?
Thanks!
CK.
From lists at onlinetools.org Tue Feb 1 16:08:21 2005
From: lists at onlinetools.org (Christian Heilmann)
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:08:21 +0000
Subject: [thelist] Submit a form and shut the window
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Chris Kavanagh wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> I have a form in a little window, and it's supposed to update in the
> main window. I guess I can do that using JavaScript: the form action
> is the main page with a TARGET of the main window.
>
> But that will leave the little window floating around. Is there any
> way I can get the little b**tard to commit suicide once its work is done?
>
> Thanks!
> CK.
>
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