[[Writing this on Mac OS X! Woohoo!] A few issues with this list... until a month or two ago, I wouldn't have known fuckedcompany.com and I don't really care about it. I'm not offended by it; it's an interesting idea, but it just doesn't appeal to me, and I don't see how it affects my ability to produce and maintain online entities. theregister.co.uk: I like this site, but it's just tech news theonion.com: parody? I don't get it :) fastcompany.com: I'd much rather talk to the person and see how well they understand the industry than see what they're subscribed to. However, if they're well read, it wil show. ntk.net: Who? cnet.com: bla, news. etc... w3.org: yes, good thing to know php4.org: why not php.net? books - looks ok, who is Ben Forta? Software: it's not the software they use but how they use it ;) You don't mention any Mac software. What is LinkBot? And the rest... I guess my point is that this list of positive indicators is kinda spotty, and misses a lot. I've found a good heart to heart with a person backed up with a demonstration of their abilities (at the very least, some reference sites) is the best indicator of what they can do. Last, but not least, a person can have a lot of this stuff and still have no clue if they didn't actually USE some of it. Jake Stetser icongarden.com On Tuesday, October 3, 2000, at 07:25 PM, Nick Koleszar wrote: It occurred to me that we can probably get a reasonable idea of an individual's ultimate ability to produce and maintain online "entities" (combination of client- and server-side code/applications and new/old economy business sense) by knowing what tools/resources they use or can atleast demonstrate an understanding of. I nominate the following as being positive indicators (in no particular order): web: theregister.co.uk fuckedcompany.com theonion.com fastcompany.com ntk.net cnet.com irt.org localhost thestandard.com w3.org google.com php4.org davecentral.com zdnet.com internet.com books: anything O'Reilly (anyone who has the complete library in their bathroom probably has a big bathroom and is kewl) most Danny Goodman stuff almost any Linux book Ben Forta software: notepad (but of course) Homesite vi Linkbot TopStyle CSE Validator Pro Linx other: eVolt mailing list ntk mailing list windows command shell ping traceroute fake http headers in telnet session command line ftp SQL anyone who has a dusty old copy of their own printout of HTML 1.0 spec! Any other ideas?