I think the whole point behind <br /> ...and any other XHTML tag that ends with a space and slash... is that it is supposed to render consistently on all browsers. I'd be curious to know what, if any, platforms have problems with these tags. Erika >ie4.5/Mac renders <br /> correctly, certainly when you have an xHTML >DTD. Have a look at http://www.easyweb.co.uk/ for examples. > >Cheers >Martin erika at seastorm.com