hi bob... "By using Flash (Flash 5, no less) they clearly aren't concerned about accessibility or potential buyers with older machines. They are anticipating that their users will have the latest greatest plugins for the site." they certainly are not. anyone buying a jag - has the latest and greatest of everything... that is assumed and expected of their audience i didn't register, i just canceled it ...i think that is what the option is there for, people who don't want to register. i anticipate more marketing site will be all in flash. maybe old school developers won't like that... but i think that will be the trend. esp. for niche marketing to the upper echelon.... i can see having more info about motor specifics...agreed :) megan np:bjork~scatterheart -----Original Message----- From: Bob Davis [mailto:bobd at lists.evolt.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 6:27 PM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] terrible site from Jaguar on 11/15/00 6:05 PM, Cauley, Megan L at megan.l.cauley at lmco.com wrote: > besides the log-in thing... > i think it is an aesthetically pleasing flash site.. > I didn't say it wasn't pretty - it is. The design is very pleasing to the eye, but the usability sucks. > i think you need to consider their audience when judging the site. > i am not in that audience ... but i can see where they are aiming for. > > megan I think it's merely overuse of a tool. The designer had a hammer, so every problem became a nail. By using Flash (Flash 5, no less) they clearly aren't concerned about accessibility or potential buyers with older machines. They are anticipating that their users will have the latest greatest plugins for the site. There's no reason to have forms built in Flash. That's not what it's for. You can't tab through the fields, you have to click each field twice to get a cursor (once to change focus, once to get a cursor - and a fast double click won't work, at least on my machine/browser [G3 400, MacOS 9.04, IE5 with Flash 5]). After all was said and done, I couldn't even find out information on what the engine options are, what kind of transmission it has available, what the drive type is, what colors are available, or anything that might get me to buy one of these. As a user, I'm pissed that I had to go through all of these hoops to get nothing of any real relevance. All I got was a quicktime movie. Whoo-hoo! As a builder of web sites, I'm astounded at the poor user interface and amazed at the obstacles put in place for users trying to get at the information that will drive a purchasing decision. And, in case you are wondering, no, I am not buying a Jag any time in the near future. I'm not in that tax bracket (yet). I just like cars, and it was a Jaguar that started the passion for me (a blue 1971 XK-E 2+2 coupe, V12...I was only 5, but I can still see it in my mind's eye.) I know someone on this list did some work for car companies - can't remember who though. Anyone? What kinds of things to car companies think about when they are putting sites together? bob -- bob davis bobd at members.evolt.org --------------------------------------- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !