>um... what sites? then i could test it, but so far, i haven't noticed Here's one: http://www.ezl.com/~waggener/TOV/past/index.html (it's part of my personal site with a DHTML menu script- thanks to Thomas Brattli for the script) Opera Software has not yet implemented the DOM into the Opera browser. I can only assume they are waiting for the W3C to complete the "official" specification.