Madhu, We have, or are in the process of, converted our e-commerce site into Cold Fusion. I can't give specifics, but it is definitely over $100,000. We are very interested in Java, but have found that Allaire's path mirrors our internal push for Java. AS one of the main internal proponents of Allaire products, I can say that I truly believe CF is a valid enterprise platform. Hope that helps, Chris Evans Webmaster, Victoria's Secret Catalog http://www.VictoriasSecret.com cevans at vscat.com -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Madhu Menon Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 7:59 AM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: [thelist] ColdFusion development Hi all. I've been a member of Evolt for a while, and I notice that there are a lot of ColdFusion developers on the list. I'm just wondering if any of you guys can help me out. I'm looking for some kind of data about the use of ColdFusion in high-end web development projects in USA. By high-end, I'm talking about $100,000+ type of projects. Is CF now accepted as a "proper" enterprise level web development platform? If my questions sound a little offensive, please... I really don't know much about CF and its popularity in America. Here in India, computer training institutes / universities have largely concentrated on Microsoft/Java platforms and CF has a very small following. Since my company provides software services to clients around the world (especially USA), I suggested that we should also build our CF development skills, and my boss asked me to gather some data on it. Hence this mail. Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I'll even throw in a tip :) <tip type="good design" author="Madhu Menon"> When you try and highlight everything on a page (web or print), you effectively end up highlighting nothing. Pick one or two things to highlight, and let them stand out. Otherwise, there will be informational and visual chaos. Far too many portals get caught in organisational politics, where each section head wants his/her content highlighted on the main page (see MSN). The result is usually too many bold headings, too many shaded boxes, and too many colours. Pick any well-known portal and see if anything jumps out at you. Chances are that you'll drown in masses of text, boxes, and pictures. McDonald's advertises its burgers, sells its fries along with them, and makes money on the cokes. But do you catch them ever advertising their fries or coke? :) </tip> Regards, Madhu <<< * >>> Madhu Menon Head - User Experience Trisoft Systems Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.trisoft.net Personal: http://madman.weblogs.com --------------------------------------- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !