If you don't already know: <tip type="Flash detection"> Good for Flash 4 Player and above. 1) make the first page, with a meta-refresh tag, set for 5 seconds (maybe a bit more), which re-directs to the non-flash page. 2) Make a tiny Flash movie (18x18 pixels) with an action in the first frame to GoToURL("flashversion.html") 3) put the movie into the same page with the meta-refresh tag. Full details at Macromedia: http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/scriptfree_detection.ht m </tip> Matt Matthew Garrett http://www.imagerealm.com