I'm attempting to put a 1 pixel frame border around a page that is roughly 600X300 In IE it looks great. In netscape it sucks. Here are three various incarnations of the same code: http://www.geocities.com/msdevault/index.html http://www.geocities.com/msdevault/index2.html http://www.geocities.com/msdevault/index3.html Help! Shane Shane.DeVault at centurytel.com