[thelist] Update on missing table cell background problem

Joe Crawford jcrawford at avencom.com
Tue Jan 30 21:48:32 CST 2001

That's the damndest thing I've seen in a while. I see the bug on
surfacademy.org - here at work I'm on WindowsNT. And in netscape,

I don't think it's a Jpeg versus GIF issue - check this copy of one of
your tables with 4 different iterations (images pulled from your site
using a <base href>):

Which shows that given 2 gifs (one yours, one the yahoo logo) one shows
up as a bg, one doesn't. Very odd.

This makes me think maybe there's something odd about your GIF? Though
what I don't know, since if I view it directly in netscape I can see it.

Odd. Odd. Odd. 


Charles Johnson wrote:
> Some of you may have seen the discussion about the problem I'm having at:
> http://www.surfacademy.org
> where *some* people running Netscape 4.x under *some* versions of Windows
> can't see the table cell backgrounds I've set up. It's no problem for
> Netscape Mac, and no problem for some Windows users. The ones who see the
> problem seem to be using either W2K or NT. I haven't been able to reproduce
> the problem myself on Mac or PC, but I don't have easy access to a W2K or NT
> system.
> Well, with Manuelita Beck's help, I discovered that if I make the background
> image a JPEG rather than a GIF, Netscape displays it just fine! At first I
> thought my long winter of netscape discontent was over...but...
> The image has a lot of solid white, and alternating one-pixel stripes of 2
> different web-safe blue colors. I'm sure you know what the JPEG format does
> with an image like that. Gotta save it at 90% quality or better to get rid
> of the artifacting, but no setting will stabilize the colors. The white
> comes out as #FCFCFC with blotches of #FEFEFE. Not good. It really needs to
> be a GIF. So I'm back to square one.
> Has anyone ever heard of something like this? Or have you used GIFs as table
> cell backgrounds in Netscape W2K and had it work? If so I'd love to hear
> from you. I'd love to hear from anyone with a suggestion, no matter how
> wacky. I've already tried lots of wacky stuff myself to fix it. Hell,
> Netscape is a wacky browser. (I'm getting a little wacky myself.)
> And a million thanks to everyone who's tried to help already...

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