these should both work: <table align="center" valign="middle"> . . . table { text-align : center; vertical-align : center; } . . . > Is there a way to center a fixed sized table both horizontally an > vertically on a page? jonathon isaac swiderski 135 west lorain street http://www.oberlin.edu/~jswiders/vol_index.htm ocmr 2678 mailto:jonathon.swiderski at oberlin.edu oberlin oh 44074 "anyone can be great, because anyone can serve" - martin luther king, jr