[thelist] Tip o'the day (x2)

John Handelaar john at userfrenzy.com
Fri Feb 16 08:22:50 CST 2001


> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Daniel J. Cody
> Sent: 16 February 2001 14:01
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Tip o'the day (x2)
> 
> 
> so, now that the ala/wsp crew decide its time for people to upgrade 
> there browsers, its 'all or nothing'?
> 
> i mean, thats great about standards and all, but why shut people out of 
> your sites completely if they don't have a 'standards compliant' 
> browser? what about accesability? what about those who can't - for one 
> reason or another - upgrade their browser?
> 
> their site doesn't even work in lynx.
> 
> yay.
> 
> .djc.

Oi!  I'm not playing advocate here (and it looked
OK in Lynx from where I was standing, btw) - now that
the thread is getting going, I'd like a couple
of answers to a couple of (normally rhetorical)
questions.

I just figured it was an interesting take.  If
MS can dump all support for Win95, and Apple can
tell the 68k users to get lost, at what point
do we decide to pull the plug on IE4 and NN4?

The main reason I don't think that reference
to evolt.org is relevant here is this:  people
did the work on making that site work with
'relic' browsers.  In a commercial context, that
would involve a client dedicating billable hours
to the job.  These days, that almost certainly
involves an ROI in negative numbers.

WSP are arguing that v4 browsers should be thrown
into the 'relic' category.

FWIW, I don't think that Moz is old enough or
robust enough to support that argument yet.

<caveat>There's no excuse on not supporting
'accessibility' platforms, granting that
whole area an exception to the discussion
IMHO</caveat>

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