[thelist] Non-Deprecated HTML Presentational Elements (was, C SS Font Sizes)

martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com
Thu Mar 1 14:42:53 CST 2001

Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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Still don't see what's wrong with <em>, as the intent of italicising it in
this context is to show emphasis. And <em> renders as italic by default
in most UAs anyway.

It shows a lot more structure than <i>.


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> "the plural of <em>ox</em> is <em>oxen</em>"
> Shurely.

I'm a little unsure about that.

Yes, <em> should probably make sense to a reader, and it may be the most
pragmatic solution today; but I don't think that it gets the _intent_ across
as we'd like.

We could argue a need for <TELEPHONE>, <SURNAME>, <BRAND> and <PRICE
currency=GBP>.  No-one here seems to be arguing for such a pointy-bracket
heaven (at least not in the last couple of weeks), so HTML remains a method
for conveying only simple structure and klunky metadata.  Still, for that
purpose it's quite adequate.

I don't see any great problem with "the plural of ox is oxen", so the
fallback path from "the plural of <SPAN class=singular>ox</SPAN> is <SPAN
class=plural>oxen</SPAN>" is quite clean.  If we define ".singular,.plural:
{ font-style: italic; }" then everyone might be happy?  (As if...)

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