Jim, > I'm trying to remove an ugly white border in a frameset > without using > border="0" as this causes the w3 org validator to fail <frame frameborder="0"> (See http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/frames.html#h-16.2.2) > I may be using the wrong dtd > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" > "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd"> No, that's fine. James Aylard