> From: Edwin Martin <e.j.martin at chello.nl> > > This is not really the answer to your question, but maybe you can tell > them about the frames usability horror and how important usability is > and that *none* of the populair sites uses frames. [...] > And (of course) I have to mention our beloved Jakob: > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html surely you meant our beloved aardvark, right? http://evolt.org/article/frames/22/293/index.html