The HWG FAQ applies to HWG. They don't allow discussion of pricing on their forums - pure an simple. Last I checked, this was not an HWG list. CDitty put into words: >This has been discussed on the Html Writers Guild. Here is a link to >their FAQ on the subject. Didn't read it all since I am not a for hire >programmer, but figured some of you might find it interesting. > >http://www.hwg.org/resources/faqs/priceFAQ.html > >Enjoy > >Chris Judith Taylor ICQ: 67460562 Freelance ColdFusion Developer Freinds don't let friends code before coffee.