>> I've wanted to learn ColdFusion for some time but have been turned off >> by the lack of free availability of the tools/server for >> noncommercial/educational use. I don't want to spend a boatload of money >> on the server only to find out I don't like it. ASP I can get for free, >Why not try the eval? That gives you 30 days to play with the product, and >not that I would advocate this, but if you need more time, you can always >set your clock back, or uninstall and reinstall. Anyway, the point is, you >_can_ test CF for free. (And there will be some more news on that for CF5, >but I don't know if I can talk much about it yet :) Actually, if you want to learn ColdFusion and have either a windows system or a Linux system running RedHat then you can download Allaire's free ColdFusion Express server. It is a bit stripped down but it provides a great platform for learning. ColdFusion is the EASIEST language by far to learn simply because it is tag based instead of a true programming language. However, it is still very powerful. I would definitely recommend learning ColdFusion first and then maybe going on to PHP once you have a handle on basic programming. Chris <www.completeimaging.com/chris> "In a Hurricane even Turkeys can fly"