Algorithms are just a logical process. My guess would be he means that he knows how search engines rate/list their pages. In most cases this is no big secret, even if the engine's methods aren't totally out in the open (like Google). -- Tobyn "trb" Baugher <trb at cartoonviolence.net> http://www.cartoonviolence.net AIM:unlewp ICQ:14281524 EFnet:trb