At 04:14 PM 05/06/2001, you wrote: >The question is - being that we are doing a non-liquid, >centered redesign (http://www.mississippi.net/wadenew) for one of the >ISP's, is there a way to center a frame? I've never found a way. I had to do something similar for a framed site recently though, and would up doing this (awful) thing of surrounding the frames of actual content with empty frames of color, to get the designer's desired effect. You can wander though the HTML at http://www.shrlaw.com/ if it helps any. Bill Mason data at data1701d.com Dateline: Starfleet http://www.data1701d.com http://profile.guru.com/billmason