[thelist] Table question

[Robert Morse]

I am trying to redesign a site that has a  complex table structure.
I am trying to simplify it a little and am experimenting with various issues.
I am having some mental blocks in trying to solve what I thought was a simple
problem.

On this protopage: http://www.humguide.com/testguide/index.html

I can't seem to get the inner table moved all the way to the top to match
the 2 pixel  cellpadding from the outer table that appears around the rest
of the inner table.

I also can't seem to figure out why the top row of the inner table with the
logo in it does not span the entire table but leaves a large margin 
on the right.

I am playing with these layouts in Dreamweaver and when I get them right I will
convert them into a php driven pages. In Dreamweaver (4.0, Mac) these table
anomalies don't show up. But once previewed in the browser they do.