<snip> I only log the front page. </snip> And therin lies the problem with these surveys, they take a very large figure and use it to support all sorts of other non-related data. Although I have a Flash plug in, I rarely use it. When I hit a page that I am unfamiliar with, I say do not run ActiveX controls, and presto! - no Flash. On others, I skip the intro, once is usually too much. Some sites are not accessible without ActiveX controls and Flash, but I am not at this desk to be entertained; I have a nice big TV, stereo, and Surround Sound for that. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Finley To: 'thelist at lists.evolt.org' Sent: May 07, 2001 10:57 PM Subject: RE: [thelist] flash detection << >RE: Player Penetration - here are logs from the past week for a site that >detects player version: > >233: 2.78%: May/ 7/01 16:46: / >215: 0.19%: May/ 7/01 16:46: /detect_3.swf >206: 0.11%: May/ 7/01 16:46: /detect_4.swf > >206/233 = 88.5% percent of visitors definitely had Flash 4 or greater. >215/233 = 92% percent of visitors definitely had Flash 3 or greater. Um can you say "Self-selecting"? If this is a site which won't really work very well if you don't have flash then it's hardly surprising. Simplistic stats are fun, aren't they? Cheers Martin >> Well, on SurveyMonkey.com, where there is NO flash, I use Superstats.com for tracking my visitors. I only log the front page. Superstats.com reports: 89.7% of visitors support Flash. Condescending statements are fun, aren't they? :) Cheers Ryan --------------------------------------- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !