I know that I will get flamed for this, but in the olden days we used a small frame which was reloaded with a meta refresh tag. This is still an *gasp* option...although [disclaimer] I do not recommend the use of frames anymore. However, I do still see it as appropriate in the proper circumstance. You could also use *can be just as annoying* a small pop-up window that is refreshed the same way. Either of these requires very little to no special scripting and will work over slow connections where Flash, Shockwave, or Java may be a problem. Happy coding! Jay Blanchard Web Engineer Thermon Industries, Inc. 1.800.820.HEAT x327 ___________________________________________________________________________ Visit http://www.visto.com/info, your free web-based communications center. Visto.com. Life on the Dot.