I'd confirm this. The bottom just fell out of the web area here in Australia about a year and a half ago. As an example, I belong to the ColdFusion User Group here. A year and a half ago I couldn't find a programmer to work with me on a job and wound up going interstate to get one. Now they all throw their business cards at me and beg for work. Contractors started at Australian $50 per hour (that was for newbie's - good one's were more like $80) - now they are working for $15 per hour - if they can get it. The Group used to be swamped with job offers - there has not been one job offer to the group in three months. I have been told that system administration is still doing well and I have had friends in specialist areas or who are just damn good and not that expensive that haven't felt the crunch - but that's it. Yeah, and graphics and front end is worse - just don't think programmers are okay! Derry Talvainn Artema Interactive Design The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C Clarke -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Karen Bowen Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2001 4:23 PM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: [thelist] OT: Working Abroad > Is there truly a shortage of IT professionals there (and in > Australia), as I've heard there is? Not sure about NZ, but Australia's IT job market is definitely not great at the moment, and has been floundering for at least a year. Currently there is an over-abundance of web designers and front-end developers and a shortage of job postings for these areas. There are a few more offerings for those with more advanced programming skills, especially if you're a VB or Delphi pro, but there are still a helluva lot of people looking. HTH Karen --------------- www.miinx.com.au www.monkey.com.au www.d-genre.com --------------------------------------- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !