[thelist] IE6 (missing Java)

[Joe Crawford]

Ryan Finley wrote:
> "Classic MS".  Yes, I agree.  Microsoft is very smart, and very ruthless.
> They are definitely the bully on the playground.  But Sun was completely
> shortsighted.  They pissed off the bully, and now the bully came back and
> stomped them.  Sun should have known better than to piss off Microsoft...who
> was voluntarily bundling Java on their operating system.

I think Microsoft doesn't do things "voluntarily" - they do things to
enhance their bottom line. When that benefits the people who use MS
software, it's good. When it hurts the people who use MS software.
that's bad. I think cutting out both plugins and Java from their newer
browsers MS is making further moves to embrace and extend all the web. I
think however you feel about this (pro / con / neutral) - I don't think
this is deniable. Microsoft is attempting to own as much of the
technology web developers depend on as possible. This is in their
interest. I leave it to my fellow web developers whether this is indeed
in *our* interest.

Even though they *care* about developers:
http://www.f---edcompany.com/images/developers.mpeg

When the truth is more like they care about changing our minds and
rolling over and taking whatever they dish out. They count on us being
too busy to care when they make big stupid moves.

The truth is that Microsoft acted in bad faith, both by breaking their
original agreement with Sun, and now, by being disingenuous about their
reasons for not shipping a JVM. The actual reason is that "Microsoft
would like to see Java die as a programming language, and Sun die as a
company."

	- Joe <http://artlung.com/>
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