FYI - there is a page now for hot fixes for CF 5.0. You may want to bookmark it and check back often. http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=20371&Method=Full ======================================================================= Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia Email : jedimaster at macromedia.com Yahoo IM : morpheus "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda