".jeff" wrote: > how is it any different than > an art site shutting out all non-netscape users? It's different in the same way that if a Soho Club chooses to exclude certain people that's their prerogative, but if Walmart has a door policy, that's another thing altogether. MSN is a whole lot closer to a Walmart of the web than an exclusive club or gallery. I hear where you're coming from, but I honestly don't believe that they're doing this to force users to upgrade to standards compliant browsers. MS also has announced a policy of no longer supporting 3rd party plugins unless they're developed for ActiveX, But I don't recall ever seeing any announcement by the W3C that ActiveX was the standard of the future.