[thelist] MSN locks out non IE browsers

[me]

    This move has nothing to do with compatibility issues.
    I write code all day and have never felt the need to block
    anything. But then, I am not a multi-gazillion dollar
    corporation bent on buying the earth. Perhaps there is a
    browser that might display my sites a little weird, but i feel
    no need to block them. This move is solely intended to cause
    at least some users to switch to exploder.

>>The simplest thing to do is design for their own browser.
    MS doesn't do anything because it is the simplest thing to do.
    MS has enough money to do absolutely anything MS wants to do.
    And thats exactly what they do.  rock on ms. bill is cool.
    ok. enough sucking up. back to work.

me.


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: profjj <thelist at cbizz.net>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [thelist] MSN locks out non IE browsers
>
>
> > Mr. Forsberg,
> >
> > This was for jeff, however ~~>
> > :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~>>
> > :From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> > :[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Forsberg
> > :Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 4:14 PM
> > :To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> > :Subject: RE: [thelist] MSN locks out non IE browsers
> > :
> > :Hi Jeff
> > :
> > :>and if they choose to guarantee that browsers that'll make their site
> look
> > :>"fucked up" can't see the site at all, that's their right.
> > :
> > :Guy walks into a menswear store -- "I want to try on those shoes" --
> > :"I'm sorry sir, those are Patrick Cox shoes, and you're wearing red
> > :socks. I'm afraid I can't let you do that."
> > :
> > :Sure the shoes would look wrong on red socks, but a punter's a
> > :punter. The punter is there because they're interested in some
> > :Microsoft product, or Microsoft-related product / service. It doesn't
> > :make good business sense to turn people away, IMHO.
> > :
> > :>pop quiz:  what software vendor makes the most software for the mac?
> > :
> > :Before or after Microsoft bought a very large number of Apple shares?
> > :And, being picky, is it 'the most software' or 'the largest Mac
> > :development team outside Apple itself.' Either way, the logic of this
> > :is clear to me -- the logic behind, and supposed benefits of,
> > :actively blocking users escapes me entirely.
> > :
> > :>  ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> > :>  > True, but there are better ways of letting me know than
> > :>>  completely blocking me out.
> > :>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> > :>
> > :>not if they want to prevent the site from being displayed in a messed
up
> > :>manner.  how would you do it?
> > :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~>>
> >
> > :<~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~>:
> > :The site's db backed? The developers are using templates? Errrrr:
> > :provide an alternate template that doesn't look like shite for
> > :non-compliant browsers? Just like the rest of us would if we couldn't
> > :be bothered coding it to look ok in the preferred template. :)
> > :<~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~> <~>:
> >
> > Firstly, designing to accomodate other sites ~ no designer loves that,
and
> > in ms's case, what's the point, when they have other things to take care
> of.
> > The simplest thing to do is design for their own browser.
> >
> > Not to be abrupt, but if I don't want a certain browser/s to view my
site,
> > then that's my choice.(It's my site - the same way that at the end of
the
> > day what i say goes).  The main reason that the ability exists means
that
> > hey, it's there to be used when necessary (I not killing anyone by using
> > it), if they wanna use my site, adhere to my rules.
> >
> > My point, - if you're going to a party, and the dress code is
/*formal*/ -
> > you turn up in shorts, slippers, and a vest.  Will you get upset when
you
> > are not admitted?
> >
> > Same here, the site is MS's website, they want you to view it with
certain
> > browser/s, that's their choice.  If nobody likes that they have options,
> buy
> > msn and call the shots, or just don't go there.  Do you have to lose by
> not
> > going to msn.com?
> >
> > tx,
> >
> > [[:profjj:]]
> > file://* http://cbizz.net *//
> >
> > :~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~<~>~~~~~~~~~~>>
> > :Andrew Forsberg
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