amanda, the interesting thing is that everything you have pointed out about the main site is exactly what we wanted you to see: example >The navigation is off-set from the Top instantly you know where the navigation is >my eye keeps getting drawn to the right, yep - thats where the content is essentially you really need to speak to our designer (degrees, ghonours blah blah) - our copy writers (long history of corporate writing for major companies, degrees, honours blah blah) you think along the same line as me - but apparently there a wierd world that writes stuff wierdly and align images in the point of focus (apparently 1/3 up the page roughly) - thats why the pictures settle on the top of the orange bit - i think it looks messy - but im not the guy who sorts that bit out - i have input - but when it comes to that stuff - hell im just the coder - i ain been to university and studied these areas and i haven't got a clue what the main focal line on a page is??? i always thought that depended on what you put on th page - apparently not. cheers for the reply anyway paul -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of A. Erickson Sent: 07 November 2001 17:08 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: [thelist] Site Check > url: http://www.2cs.com/tradebridge I haven't read the other responses yet. I'm on WinME and IE 5.5. First off, I'm not wild about the pop-up and it's not just because it's a pop-up. The typical annoying pop-up usually falls into one of two categories: either its an ad or it is a way for the designer to pen us into a certain size format. In the latter case, the parent page usually has little to no information which is what makes yours so confusing. It's like you're popping up a mini-site of the site underneath. They both have similar navigation and have a similar look and style. It's confusing. I'm going to close the pop-up and ignore it and address the main window. First of all, I think the color scheme is really fun. The design in the background with the squares is really fun to look at. For whatever reason, though, my eye keeps getting drawn to the right. It could be my monitor size which makes that big area of blue on the right look so weighty. Perhaps centering the content would be better? Also, the information hierarchy is just sort of confusing. Where am I supposed to start reading? The nav bar is offset slightly at the top from the rest of the content. It's above the logo which sort of doesn't work in terms of importance of information. What if you did a grid pattern where the logo is top left with the text description to its right. On the next line you have new sites and then the portfolio buttons. Underneath those, perhaps aligned with the bottom of the blue is the nav. Just something to try if you want. And, my last beef on this page is the text at the bottom which is graphic text. It's fuzzy and too hard to read. This kind of text (addresses and phone numbers) is *exactly* the kind of text that people want to copy and paste into their address books, into an email, etc. I don't mean to trash your site, it has a nice look to it but you just need to take the polish further and really analyze how you're laying things out and how clear you're being to your audience. - amanda ___________________________________ amanda at gawow.com + http://gawow.com --------------------------------------- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !