Have you considered using the background image property in CSS for you navigation menus with a default matching background color for any browsers that don't meet the guide lines. Creates a very impressive mouseover nav system with no download over head, and is incredibly easy to put together. http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/articles/webrev/199902.html Kevin > Message: 22 > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:10:12 -0600 > To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > From: Jason Morehead <jmorehead at digitalims.com> > Subject: Re: [thelist] Popup Menu sans GIF > Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org > > >Hello evolters! Is there a way to create navigation with hierarchical popup > >menus that DOESN'T require the use of images? I would like to make this > >using only HTML text and JavaScript if necessary, plus CSS to retain style > >control. > > this is probably what you're looking for... > > http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/hiermenus/ > > jason > -- > digital ims - developer > http://www.DigitalIMS.com > (402) 437-0137