Aha! Now if you'd said that before.... I was basing my suggestions on the fact that this method isn't forward compatible, so it won't work in future releases of most browsers (at least, it will return zero or undefined. Regards Mark Howells Working in a Winter Wonderland http://www.mark.ac > Von: AtdtXav <atdtxav at yahoo.com> > Antworten an: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Datum: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:10:08 -0800 (PST) > An: thelist at lists.evolt.org > Betreff: [thelist] Got it!(was: can't find image position unless set with > CSS?) > > So this code only has to apply for Internet Explorer, so long as > it doesn't break in Netscape.