[thelist] Apache / NT Auth -- How To?
Joe LaChapell
lacjoe at wsinc.com
Tue Jan 15 13:47:35 CST 2002
Hey gang!
Could someone point me in the right direction about where to find some
instructions on configuring Apache (on Linux of course :D) to authenticate
against my company's NT Domain Controller.
I am pretty sure that I need to use mod_auth_smb, but not real sure. :) Not
real sure on what files to configure either.
Thanks in advance,
-joe
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1. RE: finding ip addresses (kris burford [midtempo])
2. RE: finding ip addresses (Jon Haworth)
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DvSI/SICoR)
4. Re: finding ip addresses (Anne Thorniley)
5. RE: finding ip addresses (kris burford [midtempo])
6. RE: finding ip addresses (DESCHAMPS =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?=
DvSI/SICoR)
7. RE: finding ip addresses (jeff.michna at wahchang.com)
8. RE: MySQL through MS Access? (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
9. M$ SQL Server problems (Norman Beresford)
10. RE: ASP/open source/static/dynamic sites pro's and con's
(martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
11. Evening the balance (Michael Pemberton)
12. Re: Robots.txt, the robots meta tag,
and copyright referencesneeded. (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
13. RE: finding ip addresses (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
14. Re: Country List needed (Damian Maclennan)
15. RE: finding ip addresses (martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com)
16. Re: M$ SQL Server problems (Damian Maclennan)
17. RE: M$ SQL Server problems (Norman Beresford)
18. Re: Strange Link bar behavior (Andrew Clover)
19. RE: finding ip addresses (kris burford [midtempo])
20. javascript trick sought (Cayley Vos)
21. Re: javascript trick sought (Peter-Paul Koch)
22. RE: javascript trick sought (Steve Cook)
23. RE: Country List needed (John Handelaar)
24. Re: live audio webcast (John Handelaar)
25. Re: javascript trick sought (Joshua Olson)
26. RE: ASP/open source/static/dymanic sites pro's and con's (kris burford
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27. impact of username/login in forum (Was RE: [thelist] finding ip
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28. RE: javascript trick sought (Chris Price)
29. HTTP/1.1 302 Found (Frank)
30. Design check (Lachlan Cannon)
31. RE: Country List needed (Marc Seyon)
32. Re: Testing ASP and CGI (Perl) on a Mac (arlen.p.walker at jci.com)
33. RE: Design check (Gerenday, Perry (P.))
34. Re: M$ SQL Server problems (Joel Lieberman)
35. [OT] buffalo beervolt (aardvark)
36. RE: HTTP/1.1 302 Found (Luther, Ron)
37. Searching for Visual HTML Editor for Novices (John Kipling Lewis)
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Message: 1
From: "kris burford [midtempo]" <kris at midtempo.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:07:10 -0000
charset="iso-8859-1"
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okay, have (finally) worked out where the message text files are being kept
and have found the ip address (read: one *badly* set up forum).
foolish question for today - how do i then identify the user from an ip
address... i've been to a whois service, found that the ip address refers to
a large isp (bt internet), but beyond that, i'm stuck...
kris
> hi all,
>
> a new client of mine has just rung me. they're currently
> running web bbs
> forum software (which i've no and have started getting
> malicious posts (all
> seemingly from one source).
>
> is there a simple means of finding out the ip address of the culprit?
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Message: 2
Reply-To: <jon at laughing-buddha.net>
From: "Jon Haworth" <evolt at laughing-buddha.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:24:24 -0000
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> foolish question for today - how do i then identify the user from an ip
> address... i've been to a whois service, found that the ip address refers
to
> a large isp (bt internet), but beyond that, i'm stuck...
BT Internet use dynamic IPs for most of their customers - they charge
£11.75 (ICBW but it's probably around $15 US) per month for a static IP,
it's not a standard part of the service. I don't know anyone with a BT
Internet static IP, but I do know a few people who use DDNS for hosting
servers on their DSL lines - in my limited experience, no-one is happy
paying that much for a static IP when they're being drained so much for DSL
:-)
Chances are you will need to get in touch with abuse at btinternet.com and let
them know about it - they'll be able to get the user's number from their
logs, but I don't know if they'll release it to you without some sort of
court order/warrant. If they're received repeated abuse reports about that
user they might get the LARTs out, but they're a pretty naff ISP so I
wouldn't expect too much...
You could block the IP from your BBS, but as I said it's probably dynamic,
so that might not do the trick. You may end up blocking a range of IPs,
which will piss off any other users of your site who have IPs in the same
block :-(
Cheers
Jon
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Reply-To: "DESCHAMPS =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?= DvSI/SICoR"
<stephane.deschamps at francetelecom.com>
From: "DESCHAMPS =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?= DvSI/SICoR"
<stephane.deschamps at francetelecom.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:24:27 +0100
charset="iso-8859-1"
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> okay, have (finally) worked out where the message text files
> are being kept
> and have found the ip address (read: one *badly* set up forum).
>
> foolish question for today - how do i then identify the user
> from an ip
> address... i've been to a whois service, found that the ip
> address refers to
> a large isp (bt internet), but beyond that, i'm stuck...
Write to their "abuse" email address enclosing excerpts of the log, maybe?
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:26:20 +0000
From: Anne Thorniley <anne at beerintheevening.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:07:10AM -0000, kris burford [midtempo] wrote:
>
> foolish question for today - how do i then identify the user from an ip
> address... i've been to a whois service, found that the ip address refers
to
> a large isp (bt internet), but beyond that, i'm stuck...
>
I'm sorry to say that your chances arne't very good at all. When people use
BT Internet they get assigned a random IP address every time they connect,
and they also get disconnected at least every 2 hours, so unless the user
has
identified him/herself in other posts at very similar times to the malicious
ones, I doubt you'll be able to find out who they are. BT themselves /may/
have a record of who connects using what IP address, but even if they could
be bothered to search through their records to find out for you (which is
unlikely), I'm fairly sure it would be against the law for them to give out
information like that.
Good luck,
Anne
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From: "kris burford [midtempo]" <kris at midtempo.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:36:57 -0000
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bother. thought this might be the case. i'll have a wander through the
legitimate posts to see whether they've been foolish...
thanks and a small tip...
<tip>
apple have created a quick reference font gallery with "screen shots of a
Latin sentence taken from four browser/platform combinations: IE 5/Mac,
Navigator 4.7/Mac, IE 5.5/PC, and Navigator 4.7/PC".
quite useful when you start looking at designing sites with precise layout
requirements...
http://developer.apple.com/internet/fonts/fonts_gallery.html
</tip>
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[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Anne Thorniley
Sent: 15 January 2002 11:26
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 11:07:10AM -0000, kris burford [midtempo] wrote:
>
> foolish question for today - how do i then identify the user from an ip
> address... i've been to a whois service, found that the ip address refers
to
> a large isp (bt internet), but beyond that, i'm stuck...
>
I'm sorry to say that your chances arne't very good at all. When people use
BT Internet they get assigned a random IP address every time they connect,
and they also get disconnected at least every 2 hours, so unless the user
has
identified him/herself in other posts at very similar times to the malicious
ones, I doubt you'll be able to find out who they are. BT themselves /may/
have a record of who connects using what IP address, but even if they could
be bothered to search through their records to find out for you (which is
unlikely), I'm fairly sure it would be against the law for them to give out
information like that.
Good luck,
Anne
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<stephane.deschamps at francetelecom.com>
From: "DESCHAMPS =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane?= DvSI/SICoR"
<stephane.deschamps at francetelecom.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:40:11 +0100
charset="us-ascii"
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> I'm sorry to say that your chances arne't very good at all.
> When people use
> BT Internet they get assigned a random IP address every time
> they connect,
> and they also get disconnected at least every 2 hours, so
> unless the user has
> identified him/herself in other posts at very similar times
> to the malicious
> ones, I doubt you'll be able to find out who they are. BT
> themselves /may/
> have a record of who connects using what IP address, but even
> if they could
> be bothered to search through their records to find out for
> you (which is
> unlikely), I'm fairly sure it would be against the law for
> them to give out
> information like that.
We've had this kind of problem with my company (a former job) and we
contacted the abuse address and said "please do what's necessary for the
abuse to stop". They contacted the client (so confidentiality was still met)
and warned him tha tthis was the last time this behaviour was tolerated.
Actually it was for a more serious "offense" (dropping files and using our
server as an unofficial FTP repository).
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Message: 7
From: Jeff.Michna at wahchang.com
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 03:33:05 -0800
charset="iso-8859-1"
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Not much with out a court order. I would read the ISP's policy on such
things and find out if it violates any rules. If so, as people have mention
your only recourse is to submit to the ISP to have him booted.
But, one thing you can do is see if you can gather any information of the
computer. Once I had a user that was scanning my computer once a week or
so. I got sick of it and started to look at his computer. The funny thing
is that he had a web server running on his computer with his personal
webpage, including his resume... I sent him a nice little e-mail and never
had any problems with him again. This is unlikely to be the case, but does
not hurt to look.
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From: kris burford [midtempo] [mailto:kris at midtempo.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:07 AM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
okay, have (finally) worked out where the message text files are being kept
and have found the ip address (read: one *badly* set up forum).
foolish question for today - how do i then identify the user from an ip
address... i've been to a whois service, found that the ip address refers to
a large isp (bt internet), but beyond that, i'm stuck...
kris
> hi all,
>
> a new client of mine has just rung me. they're currently
> running web bbs
> forum software (which i've no and have started getting
> malicious posts (all
> seemingly from one source).
>
> is there a simple means of finding out the ip address of the culprit?
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From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:45:32 +0000
Subject: RE: [thelist] MySQL through MS Access?
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Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
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They want to alter the logical design on a production db?
Sounds a bit iffy to me.
What's the business need for such radical surgery?
Martin
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Subject: RE: [thelist] MySQL through MS Access?
got a client that's using access. want to
create/alter/drop tables or columns. right now the only way i know to do
that is in an offline copy and then try to ftp it overtop the live one --
yuck.
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From: "Norman Beresford" <n.beresford at anansi.co.uk>
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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:57:26 -0000
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Subject: [thelist] M$ SQL Server problems
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Hi all
Hoping someone on the list can help me with a problem I've got with a SQL
Server machine atm.
The problem I've got is that an assigned user can create tables, but then
has no permissions on those tables. The user is a member of all the
pre-defined database roles, including db_owner. I've tried setting the
permissions on the tables whilst logged in as administrator on the machine,
but those permission changes aren't "sticking" once applied.
Has anyone got any ideas?
Norman
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From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:59:52 +0000
Subject: RE: [thelist] ASP/open source/static/dynamic sites pro's and con's
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
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Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
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To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] ASP/open source/static/dynamic sites pro's and
con's
> From: "Tony Crockford" <tonyc at boldfish.co.uk>
[...]
>> I can't see why they need to, since the information will not be
>> changing once created in the database, just growing as they add to it.
>well, that may be true today, but if you build a system well, that
>little fact just might change...
Because requirements inevitably change, and you need to provide
enough flexibility to enable that. It's entirely likely that some degree
of run-time functionality (like delivering subtley different templates to
different user agents to maximise compatibility) will appear at some
point.
>that and what happens when they want a quick site-wide change?
>open 6*9*6000 pages and do a massive search and replace? what
>if they want a layout tweak? or they want to edit a few entries
>because they found spelling errors? plan for the most extreme
>case and scale back from there...
Although an SSI solution would support most of these use-cases.
> So far I have:
>
> Pro's of my system:
>
> The static site should be faster,
>- the static site *may* be faster, but with a good server and a good
>db, that might only be a matter of milliseconds...
...although that may depend on the level of traffic you're getting.
But as part of 'a good server', if you have server caching (RAM
based if at all possible), you shouldn't have many issues anyway.
Cheers
Martin
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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:19:07 +1100
From: Michael Pemberton <mpember at phreaker.net>
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Subject: [thelist] Evening the balance
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I know that I am probably still in debt, so here's a quick tip I came
across today:
<tip author="Michael Pemberton" type="SPAM Protection">
If you are sick of recieving spam and not being able to work out who
sent it to you, there are a number of services that will allow you to
generate an address that allows you to track who sent it to you. These
require some configuration and requires you to remove the adresses
yourself once you find them to be sending spam.
http://www.spamgourmet.com is different. It is designed to be used like
a phone card. Once you have received a set number of email through an
address, the account self-destructs. After setting up the account, you
simply need to include you username and the number of email you want to
allow (max: 20) as part of the username of the email address. You can
then attach a string to describe the purpose of the email address.
You don't need to go back to their website each time you need a new
email address, just follow their guide for the syntax of your address
and your away.
The service, even with advanced features, is free.
</tip>
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From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:16:49 +0000
Subject: Re: [thelist] Robots.txt, the robots meta tag,
and copyright referencesneeded.
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
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Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
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To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] Robots.txt, the robots meta tag, and copyright
referencesneeded.
>i just wanted to add that when you show "technical" people that they are
>wrong, they will resent it, and the relationship will continue to suffer
Which needs care to not interpret as "agree with everything they say".
Actually, this is true of most people, not just technical ones. Marketing
folks can be just as stubborn, and don't get me started on lawyers.
>so this is more a question of politics, which really means the fine art of
>getting people to do what you want and have them think it was their idea
in
>the first place 'o)
Of course... although it sounds like it's a bit late for that.
>>2. If we don't have a robots.txt disallowing all access, we are giving
>>people a legal right to take our information.
>ask them nicely why search engines should be prevented from indexing other
>pages within your web site besides the front page
Or alternatively, ask them (nicely) what they're basing their legal advice
on. (hmmm - legally qualified techical people? Not impossible)
IOW if they're making change requests, then they should be the ones to
justify their position, rather than being the default which you have to
find
evidence to refute.
It's a 'show me the money' question.
>if the idea is that the technical people only want just the front page
>listed in search engines (maybe they think all site visitors have to start
>at the front page?),
A bigger question - why are the technical people deciding what is and
isn't indexed. Isn't that a question for the business? Sounds like a
marketing
issue to me.
Cheers
Martin
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From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:21:15 +0000
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
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Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
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To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
>> a new client of mine has just rung me. they're currently
>> running web bbs
>> forum software (which i've no and have started getting
>> malicious posts (all
>> seemingly from one source).
>
>> is there a simple means of finding out the ip address of the culprit?
>What's the language used for the forum?
>You can always log the remote address each time a message is posted...
And, more importantly, *tell* the users that you're doing it.
http://www.dnai.com/~mackey/thesis/panopticon.html
Which is why you don't need to have all speed camera boxes containing
working
cameras - they're just as effective at reducing speed without having to take
action
every single time someone drives through above the limit.
Cheers
Martin
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Message: 14
From: "Damian Maclennan" <damian_mac at hotmail.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] Country List needed
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:26:35
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi
This may be a little fine grained for you, but it's in a nice format to
import.
http://www.improvise.com.au/include/countries.xml
Damian
>From: Paul Cowan <paul at wishlist.com.au>
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: [thelist] Country List needed
>Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:47:35 +1100
>
>Hi evolterinos,
>
>I have need for a country code list, broken down by region, for the
>purposes
>of calculating delivery costs. We are trying to divide countries down into
>regions -- we are using ISO-3166 as the basis of the table, but it would be
>nice to have a ready-made source of data for what goes where rather than
>doing it manually.
>
>We're after something moderately fine-grained... say if the world was
>divided into regions something like:
> - North America
> - Central America/Caribbean
> - South America
> - Oceania/Pacific
> - North & West Asia
> - South-East Asia
> - Middle East
> - Africa
> - Europe
>... etc., that would be super. We're NOT after something like the
>ever-helpful Australian postal service can give us, which is broken into:
> - Asia
> - America
> - UK
> - Rest of world
>(more or less)
>
>Just thought someone might have a list lying around which I could import
>into our database and save me an hour or so with an atlas!
>
>Of course, even better would be a source for such a list on the web, which
>is updated to reflect changes to ISO-3166 (or some similar list of world
>states). Perhaps that's a little optimistic though.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Not sure how OT this is, so just in case:
>
><tip type="Keyboard" author="Paul Cowan">
>Got a Windows-type keyboard (the ones with the extra little keys down near
>your alt keys)? Take a second to learn the shortcuts those keys can give
>you. If you're a keyboard junkie like me, they can save you a lot of
>mouse-using time -- for example, Windows-E = explorer; Windows-F = find
>files; Windows-D = show desktop, and again to restore; Windows-R = run, and
>so on.
></tip>
>
>Paul Cowan
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Message: 15
From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:31:13 +0000
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
-------------------- Start of message text --------------------
Hi Kris
Is there any scope for requiring registration/membership to post, with a
working email address being mandatory.
Then
a) you have a bit of accountability to contact the user and complain
b) It's easier for other members of the community to police it
c) You can revoke memberships which don't follow your ToS
It won't prevent abuse entirely, but it will cut it down as it's a lot of
hassle to reregister with a new email address just to be abusive on
a bbs.
Social engineering usually works better than pure technical solution.
Cheers
Martin
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
okay, have (finally) worked out where the message text files are being kept
and have found the ip address (read: one *badly* set up forum).
foolish question for today - how do i then identify the user from an ip
address... i've been to a whois service, found that the ip address refers
to
a large isp (bt internet), but beyond that, i'm stuck...
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Message: 16
From: "Damian Maclennan" <damian_mac at hotmail.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] M$ SQL Server problems
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:36:38
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi
When you say "all pre-defined" roles, do you mean db_denydatareader and
db_denydatawriter as well ?
They _may_ take precedencce over some of the others.
Damian
>From: "Norman Beresford" <n.beresford at anansi.co.uk>
>Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
>Subject: [thelist] M$ SQL Server problems
>Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:57:26 -0000
>
>Hi all
>
>Hoping someone on the list can help me with a problem I've got with a SQL
>Server machine atm.
>
>The problem I've got is that an assigned user can create tables, but then
>has no permissions on those tables. The user is a member of all the
>pre-defined database roles, including db_owner. I've tried setting the
>permissions on the tables whilst logged in as administrator on the machine,
>but those permission changes aren't "sticking" once applied.
>
>Has anyone got any ideas?
>
>Norman
>
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Message: 17
From: "Norman Beresford" <n.beresford at anansi.co.uk>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] M$ SQL Server problems
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:42:48 -0000
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Hi Damian
Cheers, that looks spot on the money!
Norman
> When you say "all pre-defined" roles, do you mean db_denydatareader and
> db_denydatawriter as well ?
>
> They _may_ take precedencce over some of the others.
>
> Damian
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:51:00 +0000
From: Andrew Clover <and at doxdesk.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] Strange Link bar behavior
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Joel Konkle-Parker <jjk3 at msstate.edu> wrote:
> Whenever I click on any of the external (blue, central, in the white box)
> links on my site, or use any of the search forms, it activates my IE6
Links
> bar, which I usually have disabled. [...]
> Why is it doing this, and is there a way to fix it?
This is just how window.open() works. Netscape and IE give you the
"default browser features" if you don't specify the features string,
even if the user has changed their browser features from the default.
Opera even gives you no window furniture at all if you don't specify
them! Only Mozilla works in the sensible way you'd expect. For this
reason, most authors specify all window features explicitly, which can
be a bit annoying if your own preferences are different.
Using a 'target="_blank"' attribute works better for simple 'open in
new window' links. If you are authoring to [X]HTML Strict where there
is no target attribute, a somewhat cheeky workaround is:
<a href="foo.html" onclick="this.target='_blank';">
...or my favoured solution of giving up and letting the using decide
whether they want to open in a new window or not. :-)
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Message: 19
From: "kris burford [midtempo]" <kris at midtempo.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:00:41 -0000
charset="us-ascii"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
hi martin
part of my job for this client is to restructure their site and, in
particular, their community set-up. whilst i've a lot of experience in
*talking* about how community sites should be structured, i've not a great
deal of hands on structural experience (i spent two years at my last
employers screaming for community features and telling them how it would
dramatically improve their sites, all to no avail...).
my current client is using web bbs for their existing web forum software
(http://awsd.com/scripts/webbbs/) but are getting sufficient traffic for
this system to be *very* slow (all files saved as text and written into html
on the fly). i was looking at moving them over to phorum (www.phorum.org) as
it seems to be faster and easier to configure to fit the rest of the site
design (plus it utilises php/mysql as per the rest of the restructuring).
anyway, i'd like to think that including registration/login functionality
wouldn't impact on the use of the forum, but i've an idea that it will.
does anyone have any experience with moving from a very open bbs to
something that is significantly more structured? what were the implications?
suggestions???
thanks
kris
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Sent: 15 January 2002 12:31
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers
-------------------- Start of message text --------------------
Hi Kris
Is there any scope for requiring registration/membership to post, with a
working email address being mandatory.
Then
a) you have a bit of accountability to contact the user and complain
b) It's easier for other members of the community to police it
c) You can revoke memberships which don't follow your ToS
It won't prevent abuse entirely, but it will cut it down as it's a lot of
hassle to reregister with a new email address just to be abusive on
a bbs.
Social engineering usually works better than pure technical solution.
Cheers
Martin
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] finding ip addresses
okay, have (finally) worked out where the message text files are being kept
and have found the ip address (read: one *badly* set up forum).
foolish question for today - how do i then identify the user from an ip
address... i've been to a whois service, found that the ip address refers
to
a large isp (bt internet), but beyond that, i'm stuck...
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 05:12:50 -0800
From: Cayley Vos <cvos at netpaths.net>
Organization: NetPaths.net
To: evolt tech help <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: [thelist] javascript trick sought
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I would like to have a nice little javascript effect: on the following
page clicking on the link "help" (located below right of Mt. Rainier) is
a popup window.
http://www.ascenddvd.com/rainier.php
in this window is a link called "direct link" upon clicking this I
would like the small popup window to close and said link to open in the
parent window (the one that spawned this link)
who could be so kind to tell me this :)
--
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360.714.8395 office
360.223.7799 cell
http://NetPaths.net/portfolio
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Message: 21
From: "Peter-Paul Koch" <gassinaumasis at hotmail.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] javascript trick sought
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:17:05 +0000
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>in this window is a link called "direct link" upon clicking this I
>would like the small popup window to close and said link to open in the
>parent window (the one that spawned this link)
In the popup:
opener.location.href = 'thepage.html';
window.close()
ppk
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Message: 22
From: Steve Cook <steve.cook at evitbe.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] javascript trick sought
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:20:44 +0100
charset="windows-1252"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
This should do the trick:
javascript:opener.location.href='http://link.location.here/index.html';self.
close()
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cayley Vos [mailto:cvos at netpaths.net]
> Sent: den 15 januari 2002 14:13
> To: evolt tech help
> Subject: [thelist] javascript trick sought
>
<SNIP>
>
> in this window is a link called "direct link" upon clicking this I
> would like the small popup window to close and said link to
> open in the
> parent window (the one that spawned this link)
>
> who could be so kind to tell me this :)
> --
>
>
> Cayley Vos, Principal
>
> 360.714.8395 office
> 360.223.7799 cell
>
> http://NetPaths.net/portfolio
> ____________________________________________
> web site design | programming | search engine marketing
>
>
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Message: 23
Subject: RE: [thelist] Country List needed
From: John Handelaar <genghis at members.evolt.org>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: 15 Jan 2002 13:21:34 +0000
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 00:24, Paul Cowan wrote:
>
> Adam Brin wrote:
> > The International Standards Organization (ISO) publishes
> > an official
> > country list, you can buy it off their website, or just find a copy
> > somewhere like here:
> >
> > http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/codlstp1/
>
> Thanks Adam, but I have the ISO 3166 list of countries... I need something
> mapping those to world regions, like Middle East, Africa, Central America,
> etc.
You might find that a little difficult in practice.
Turkey, anyone?
------------------------------------------
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T +44 20 8933 1494 M +44 7930 681789
F +44 870 169 7657 E john at userfrenzy.com
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Message: 24
Subject: Re: [thelist] live audio webcast
From: John Handelaar <genghis at members.evolt.org>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: 15 Jan 2002 13:26:36 +0000
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
On Tue, 2002-01-15 at 03:32, spinhead wrote:
> What would it take (hardware and software) to do a live webcast, audio
only
> (but it would have to be 'good quality' which we'll leave subjective for
> now) ?
>
> joel
Joel
Quite a lot of variables there (music/speech?, audience client?)
For example, Radio Avalon at the 2000 Glastonbury Festival was
broadcast from a Windows Media server in London and fed from
a 5-year-old Dell Latitude laptop plugged into a portable
FM radio. Signal sent over a phone line - stayed in place for
8 days in the Tesco carrier bag I placed it in to protect it
from the dirt.
Mail me off-list and I'll brain-dump it on ya - this is one of
the 'things I do'.
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Message: 25
From: "Joshua Olson" <joshua at alphashop.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] javascript trick sought
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:24:35 -0500
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Cayley,
I do not have time right now to fabricate the overall code, but the concept
is this:
- Ensure that the function to open the popup in the parent window also
records a copy of the window object in a variable and a copy of the called
url into a variable.
- Create a function in the parent window to close the aforementioned window
and change the location of the current (parent) window to the saved url.
- In the popup window, call the parent window's (aka opener) function as
described above.
HTH,
-joshua
----- Original Message -----
From: Cayley Vos <cvos at netpaths.net>
Subject: [thelist] javascript trick sought
> in this window is a link called "direct link" upon clicking this I
> would like the small popup window to close and said link to open in the
> parent window (the one that spawned this link)
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Message: 26
From: "kris burford [midtempo]" <kris at midtempo.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] ASP/open source/static/dymanic sites pro's and con's
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:36:50 -0000
charset="us-ascii"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>> anyone know of any compelling reasons why a local government office
>> should not use ASP? has Microsoft any cunning plans to control it, now
>> or in the near future?
>
>If they do we would not know until they did.... For all of his powers
>Superman could never guess Lex Luther's next move... Microsoft
>probably does have plans to control everything, they just haven't
>debugged the program that does it yet...
what?? microsoft are actually waiting until a program is debugged *before*
releasing??? : )
kris
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Message: 27
From: "Alliax" <damiencola at wanadoo.fr>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: impact of username/login in forum (Was RE: [thelist] finding ip
addresses)
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:53:15 +0100
charset="Windows-1252"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
my current client is using web bbs for their existing web forum software
(http://awsd.com/scripts/webbbs/) but are getting sufficient traffic for
this system to be *very* slow (all files saved as text and written into html
on the fly). i was looking at moving them over to phorum (www.phorum.org) as
it seems to be faster and easier to configure to fit the rest of the site
design (plus it utilises php/mysql as per the rest of the restructuring).
anyway, i'd like to think that including registration/login functionality
wouldn't impact on the use of the forum, but i've an idea that it will.
does anyone have any experience with moving from a very open bbs to
something that is significantly more structured? what were the implications?
suggestions???
--
I have experience in the opposite, from a login scheme to an open bbs,
participation has increased, no abuse so far (2 months) and despite the
login/registration being optional a few people have created a login/profile
for displaying information about them.
Since I use Phorum 3.3.1a I can assure you you don't have to force the login
in order for user to post, this is up to you the administrator to
close/semiclose/open particular forums.
Cheers
Cordialement,
__ Alliax ~CV : http://LingoParadise.com/cv.php
Un site pour Toulon : http://www.ToulonParadise.com
Un site pour Renaud : http://www.rfaucilhon.com
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Message: 28
From: Chris Price <chris.price at stl.org>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] javascript trick sought
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 13:55:19 -0000
charset="iso-8859-1"
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I have a book called 'Javascript for the world wide web' ISBN:0201354632.
which I think has the information you are looking for
There is a companion web site where you can find the scripts
http://www.chalcedony.com/javascript3e/
You will need the section "Working with browser windows" and its all about
parent & child windows
--
Chris
> ----------
> From: Cayley Vos
> Reply To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 13:12 PM
> To: evolt tech help
> Subject: [thelist] javascript trick sought
>
> I would like to have a nice little javascript effect: on the following
> page clicking on the link "help" (located below right of Mt. Rainier) is
> a popup window.
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Message: 29
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:45:19 -0500
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Frank <framar at interlog.com>
Subject: [thelist] HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I've got a form, using POST that when submitted, causes an HTTP 302
(Found). It presents me with a link to the same document that I
thought I was using.
RFC 2616 <http://www.w3c.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html> tells me
"The requested resource resides temporarily under a
different URI. Since the redirection might be altered on
occasion, the client SHOULD continue to use the Request-URI
for future requests. Thsresponse is only cacheable if
indicated by Cache-Control or Expires header field."
I'm using Apache 1.3.22 (Win32).
Can someone suggest what in practice might be causing this to occur?
Thanks.
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Message: 30
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 06:50:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Lachlan Cannon <tiedefenderdelta6 at yahoo.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] Design check
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I've finally managed to debug the design (that I was asking
help for a while ago).
http://members.evolt.org/luminosity/test/compose.html
So far, I've tested it on (win98) IE 5.5, IE 6 (it stuffs
up in IE, enlargening the divs instead of scrolling, but
that's fine), Netscape 6.0 and 6.1 (works as it should),
and Opera 5.0 and 6.0 (stuffs up, keeping the div the right
size, and flowing the content out of it instead of
scrolling - the worst stuff up of the lot, really
especially when screen space gets small at 640 x 480 and
opera hogs most of it for chrome), and to a lesser extent
(but still quite useable, except when the text box
disappears at 640 x 480 (?!) in NS 4.78.
If people could test it in other browsers / OSes and get
back to me, that would be great.
TIA!
Lach
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Message: 31
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:50:10 -0400
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Marc Seyon <seyon at delime.com>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Country List needed
<20EAFBF49A8B5141807AFDCB5ED9DB71CFD764 at coen.wishlist.com.au>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
At 1/15/2002 01:21 PM, John Handelaar typed:
> > > http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/codlstp1/
> >
> > Thanks Adam, but I have the ISO 3166 list of countries... I need
something
> > mapping those to world regions, like Middle East, Africa, Central
America,
> > etc.
>
>You might find that a little difficult in practice.
>
>Turkey, anyone?
John,
Turkey - Europe! They play in the European Champions League... oh, wait...
so does Russia and we all know they're considered to be in Asia
Maybe it's Asia then... Or probably "Middle East", whatever that means.
Have had lots of physical geography discussions over the years, and they're
all inconclusive.
However, Paul did say the list is to use with shipping costs. So Paul, I'm
thinking you can approach this two ways:
1. Try to Be The Classifier - Determine the shipping costs for, say Turkey,
and based on whether those costs are more similar to Asian/European/Middle
Eastern costs, put them in that category. Risk - people look in a category
they associate with someplace, don't see the country they want, think you
don't ship there
2. Cover Your Bases - USA & Canada. North America. No problem. Mexico -
North? Central? Put them in both places. Eliminates above risk.
So it seems your best bet would actually be to create that breakdown
yourself. It isn't difficult. There aren't even 250 countries in the world.
For anyone with an atlas, or the CIA World Factbook -
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/indexgeo.html - and a bit of
common sense and geographical knowledge, it wouldn't even take 15 minutes
to do.
You've already spent the better part of a day, at least, hoping to find the
answer online.
The other thing I'm not too sure about. Are you looking for the breakdown,
to then calculate shipping costs? Or have you already contacted the
shipping people you will be using and found out their costs to ship to
country X or country Y?
good luck.
-marc
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Message: 32
Subject: Re: [thelist] Testing ASP and CGI (Perl) on a Mac
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Arlen.P.Walker at jci.com
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:50:45 -0600
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
OSX runs apache and perl quite nicely. Both are included in the standard
install. It's set up by default for cgi scripts to go in
Library/Webserver/CGI-Executables (and includes the rewrite rules to make
/cgi-bin refer to this directory) but you can, of course, configure apache
any way you want.
apache::asp module only allows asp scripting in perl. I'm not sure if
there's a VBScript module out there that can be added to it. MS is really
anal about letting VB show up on any platform except Windows.
Have fun,
Arlen
Chief Managing Director In Charge, Department of Redundancy Department
DNRC 224
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Message: 33
From: "Gerenday, Perry (P.)" <pgerenda at visteon.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Design check
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:16:48 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan Cannon [mailto:tiedefenderdelta6 at yahoo.com]
> I've finally managed to debug the design (that I was asking
> help for a while ago).
>
> http://members.evolt.org/luminosity/test/compose.html
>
> So far, I've tested it on (win98) IE 5.5,
<truncated />
Hi Lachlan,
I tried to look at your site with (win98) IE 5.0 but all I can see is the
Luminosity title, the rest of the page is blank. Don't know what's up.
Sorry.
Perry Gerenday
www.virtually-artistic.com
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Message: 34
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:26:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Joel Lieberman <joel_lieberman at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] M$ SQL Server problems
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Norman -
You need to be careful about selecting "all"
privileges from the various lists because whilst you
can give a user the ability to create a table, you can
at the same time deny his privileges to read anything
from it!
I suggest that you create the user account at the
instance level, then at the database user level, give
permissions for db_ddladmin, db_datareader and
db_datawriter. This will enable the user to create
tables, procedures, etc., and read and write to them
whilst not having the higher privileges of DBO.
Cheers -
Joel Lieberman
--- Norman Beresford <n.beresford at anansi.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Hoping someone on the list can help me with a
> problem I've got with a SQL
> Server machine atm.
>
> The problem I've got is that an assigned user can
> create tables, but then
> has no permissions on those tables. The user is a
> member of all the
> pre-defined database roles, including db_owner.
> I've tried setting the
> permissions on the tables whilst logged in as
> administrator on the machine,
> but those permission changes aren't "sticking" once
> applied.
>
> Has anyone got any ideas?
>
> Norman
>
>
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Message: 35
From: "aardvark" <roselli at earthlink.net>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:36:58 -0500
Subject: [thelist] [OT] buffalo beervolt
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
http://www.evolt.org/article/buffalo/27/18958/
Friday, January 18, around 6pm. Bring all the evolters you know,
and some you don't. We'll be meeting at the Pearl Street Grill &
Brewery on (you guessed it) Pearl Street.
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Message: 36
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Subject: RE: [thelist] HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:00:02 -0600
From: "Luther, Ron" <Ron.Luther at compaq.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
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Hi Frank,
I'm not an Apache guy ... but I didn't see anyone else jump on this.
It kinda smells like a configuration issue. Could there may be
something in your htaccess file that is redirecting requests to the
directory you're trying to post to?
Hopefully a small clue,
RonL.
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From: Frank [mailto:framar at interlog.com]
Subject: [thelist] HTTP/1.1 302 Found
I've got a form, using POST that when submitted, causes an HTTP 302
(Found). It presents me with a link to the same document that I
thought I was using.
RFC 2616 <http://www.w3c.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html> tells
me
"The requested resource resides temporarily under a
different URI. Since the redirection might be altered on
occasion, the client SHOULD continue to use the Request-URI
for future requests. Thsresponse is only cacheable if
indicated by Cache-Control or Expires header field."
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Message: 37
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:03:35 -0500 (EST)
From: John Kipling Lewis <jklewis at umich.edu>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: [thelist] Searching for Visual HTML Editor for Novices
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I'm attempting to find a simple editor for webpages. This editor would
not actually change the structure of the page. It would, in fact, leave
each and every tag in it's place. It would, however, allow for the
editing of the text on the page without the need of knowing any HTML. It
would also need to be visual, so that people who do not understand HTML
would be able to use it.
I am the lone Web Developer here, and I would sorely like to fend off some
of the editing of text to others, but the editors they use tend to change
the formating (both in the code and the visual layout). I'm desperate for
a simple visual editor that doesn't change the code.
Any leads would be appreacited.
John K. Lewis
PS (I'm new to the list, so Hi!)
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Message: 38
From: ".jeff" <jeff at members.evolt.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] MySQL through MS Access?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:20:08 -0800
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martin,
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> From: martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com
>
> They want to alter the logical design on a production
> db?
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no, we're strictly in the development phase and *i* want/need to alter the
logical design of the database.
.jeff
http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/
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Message: 39
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:17:38 -0800
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Judah McAuley <judah at wiredotter.com>
Subject: [thelist] Form CSS styles
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
I'm looking for examples of nice form styling using CSS.
I've looked at glish, bluerobot, and alistapart but most CSS examples and
tutorials appear to focus on columns, boxes and text styling, which is
great, but I'm looking to make my forms more visually appealing. The
default formatting for forms (try saying that 5 times fast) is pretty ugly,
especially the buttons. I know that I could replace the buttons with
images, but I prefer having buttons where possible since then I get
name/value pairs passed.
So I'm looking for good code to steal ;-)
Anyone have any examples that they'd like to share?
Thanks,
Judah
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Message: 40
Reply-To: "Bob Haroche" <bharoche at usa.net>
From: "Bob Haroche" <bharoche at usa.net>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Searching for Visual HTML Editor for Novices
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:22:33 -0800
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Hi John,
I can't think of an editor that doesn't change tags, but there are a number
of cgi scripts out there that let non-designers change the content on
specified pages in certain areas you specify. One which I like is Fast Page
at www.iexp.com. It costs around $80. There are others that are free, but
when I went searching a few months ago, this seemed the most versatile.
Another option might be a weblog type set up? Grey matter looks good:
http://www.noahgrey.com/greysoft/
HTH.
Regards,
Bob Haroche
O n P o i n t S o l u t i o n s
http://www.OnPointSolutions.com
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