[thelist] Re: Why code for standards

Bev Corwin bev at enso-company.com
Wed Feb 6 09:15:01 CST 2002


I will certainly contribute to the efforts, support evolters,  and "spread
the word" to outside others who may, also, be interested, if everyone is in
agreement,  I'm ok with the concept.

Creating a mission statement is a good idea.  I always feel better about
getting involved in something when there is a clearly laid out "mission" and
democratically established goals, etc.

There exists a wide gap (ocean) between a variety of identifiable groups and
these various standards orgs.  Perhaps we could  identify the groups we want
this particular effort to serve,  try to identify them as our "clients" /
"users" / "members",  and then try to asses what their greatest needs are.
This could help in our efforts to establish and identify a more productive
mission.   Perhaps webstandards.org could serve as a resource to help users
navigate the waters between practical standards user groups,  the standards
orgs,  their current status, and their development processes.   Linking to
groups like WaSP would be useful, too, and practical.

Bev

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Haenel" <bill at webmarketingworx.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: [thelist] Re: Why code for standards


> > How different would this be to http://www.webstandards.org/ ?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Martin
>
>
> Well, so far, in its infancy, it is different in the sense that I wasn't
> thinking so much of an 'activist' group as an contributory group. To my
> knowledge, WaSP currently holds no membership in any of the standards
groups
> we've been discussing, or at least not so they've published that I can
see.
>
> It seems WaSP's intention has always been to have influence on the
> public/user/browser level, not on the establishment/development/directive
> level. They get involved by encouraging adherence to standards, but we
would
> get involved on the end of determining what those standards would say, and
> how they might be implemented. We actually would have involvement with the
> W3C, ISO, etc.
>
> WaSP says they're currently taking "a gentle leave of absence". According
to
> their site, they've accomplished a great deal of what they set out to, and
> so are apparently able to take a break. Where their mission is concerned,
> that's appropriate. If you're involved in the standards development
process,
> the job is really never done.
>
> Sounds like a mission statement would be in order. Oh, Jeez - what have I
> done. As this is intended to be a group thing, not a me thing, I would
defer
> in part to my peers who may be interested in participating. So I put it to
> the future members: If a group of evolters (and others) were to form a
group
> such as the one discussed here, what should it hope to accomplish, and how
> would it differ from other similar organizations already in existence?
>
> Anyway, I think it needs to be done. It only stands to reason that one of
> the greatest groups of designers and developers on the planet should have
> some collective input in the determination of what rules we'll have to
> follow and how, right? We certainly all do spend a lot of time discussing
> and complaining about the issue here, so must be there's some concern we
> should be addressing, right? "Don't just stand there complaining, do
> something".
>
> BH
>
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