Simon, > You can also download from Microsoft a thing for IE4/5+ that does similar > sounding work. I find it most useful for getting the URLs of movie clips > that usually don't show up properly in the "View Source" window... er.. > maybe i shouldn't admit that? Anyway, it shows the entire IE DOM of the > page. very handy. The mozilla one is probably better in the sense of ... > Sadly, a quick search of the MS site reveals that the plug in is difficult > to find.. i couldn't find it since they moved everything 'round, so this > really isn't that useful a message. Oops. Here ya go (IE 5+, not IE 4): http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/previous/webaccess/webdevaccess.asp and a few other IE-oriented freebies: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/previous/webaccess/ James Aylard