If some one has IE 4.x and 5.0 could you check http://billb.his.com/mg_web.htm I have put in JS and tested for older versions of IE with the code: if(document.all){ var ms4Tag=document.all["menuBar"]; for(var i=0;i<ms4Tag.length;i++){ ms4Tag.style.cursor="hand"; } } and I would like to make sure it works. Thanks B