[thelist] Removing scroll bars

aardvark roselli at earthlink.net
Tue Feb 19 09:32:00 CST 2002


> From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
[...]
> better to go to the webmonkey article "sizing up the browsers" and
> grab the screen dimensions for the lowest common denominator

a very good start...

> since you say it's an internet explorer intranet, you would probably
> be wise to take into consideration the microsoft office toolbar too

even better...

> once you have your minimum screen dimensions, build a page and tweak
> it (remove content) until the scrollbars go away
>
> that's your maximum size
>
> if you do implement scroll="no" and for some reason (e.g. a user with
> poor eyesight and larger fonts) the page exceeds the window size, you
> will have created a much bigger usability problem than having content
> below the fold

this is *extremely* important... having worked on a gov't intranet, i
know there are users with large fonts, large
buttons/scrollbars/icons, *all* toolbars at full height, the MS Office
toolbar, and at 640x480 -- all on one machine...

another thing you might benefit from is some research into your
users' settings...

you can gather, for the most part, the upper and lower bounds of
what users have for screen resolutions *and* window sizes... of
course, that can change as soon as you end this research, but it's
a good start... since it's an intranet with IE browsers, you're in good
shape to expect results... an article to get you started:

Real-World Browser Size Stats, Part I
http://evolt.org/article/rating/17/2295/

once you have those numbers (part 2 shows sample results), you
should then poll as many users as possible, especially those who
work in the office that deals with ADA stuff and accessibility... they
generally have good examples of less generic set-ups...

now build a test machine using the most extreme browser settings
from your walk around their offices, as well as the smallest window
size and resolution combination...

*that* is your real-world lowest-common denominator...

...and ostensibly your maximum page size...




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