Hi Dave, >I've overcome the problems I was having - I've spent too long gazing at it, >missing obvious things. All sorted now, thanks to those of you who helped me >along. No problem. Hope I could help somehow... >Anyway, I was just wondering why those 'in the know' dislike the use of >SELECT * FROM... I often see its use discouraged, and I was wondering why it >is bad to use it. http://www.adopenstatic.com/faq/selectstarisbad.asp It even has its own web page! :) Cheers Andrew -- Andrew Forsberg --- uberNET - http://uber.net.nz/ the pander - http://thepander.co.nz/