At 17:25 15.03.02 +0100, Paul wrote: >Would someone take a look it at (http://www.americanmusclecars.nl). Paul, I tried this, which might be closer to what you're trying to achieve: <frameset cols="250,*" framespacing="0" frameborder="0"> <frame src="http://www.americanmusclecars.nl/menu.html" name="menu" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" noresize name="menu" scrolling="NO"> <frameset rows="120,*"> <frame src="http://www.americanmusclecars.nl/logo.html" name="logo" marginwidth="0" marginheight="5" noresize name="logo" scrolling="NO"> <frame src="http://www.americanmusclecars.nl/cars.html" name="cars" marginwidth="0" marginheight="5" noresize name="logo" scrolling="AUTO"> </frameset> Also, to make your cars.html page more liquid, you might (as a starter - not tested beyond IE5.5/Win) do something like this: <style type="text/css" media="screen"><!--/*--><![CDATA[/*><!--*/ /*.text {margin-left:240px;} .text2 {margin-left:100px;} you can delete these*/ #container { text-align:center; border:0 none; /*probably necessary for NN4.x*/ } /*]]>*/--></style> This assumes a <div id="container"> that encloses all of your page's contents. -- Henning Poerschke http://webmediaconception.com +49-700-WMCONCEPT mailto:hp at webmediaconception.com