Using Opera 6/PC -- wow, does this site look bad! I cannot read the blue text links on black background on this page: http://www.tilling.com.au/new/Tilling/blueprint/blueprintFrameset.htm partly because of the colour and partly because of the miniscule size of the text -- looks about 6 point. Incidentally, I have my fonts set to large ... At 800 x 600, I can't use some of 'em anyway, because they're off the bottom of the screen, and there's no scrollbar on that frame. Pretty darn depressing to think this was done by professionals ... Veronica Yuill email: veronicay at archetype-it.com Archetype Information Technology Ltd http://www.archetype-it.com/english/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dynamic websites for fast-moving businesses