Chris, Two points. 1) What do you you have against using cookies? Yes, some people turn them off, but then again almost every major shopping site that I can think of uses them. 2) Users should not need to login before adding items to their cart. They only need to do so before checking out. Casey -----Original Message----- From: Chris Blessing [mailto:webguy at mail.rit.edu] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:55 AM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: [thelist] Backend of a shopping cart system... Actually I have one issue remaining here... with the array-based system, there's no need for the user to login to our site before creating their shopping cart, since the cart is specific to that user by way of a session var. If I move to the db system, I suppose I could use the session ID as a sort of unique key, but how would I persist (if the user closes their browser and then comes back) that without using cookies? Chris Blessing webguy at mail.rit.edu http://www.330i.net -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !