[thelist] request to UNSUBSCRIBE failed

katherine kbjork at attbi.com
Mon Apr 15 15:24:17 CDT 2002


I am trying, and have tried for several days to UNSUBSCRIBE from this
list, using the website, and have also written to the admin but have
received no response. I will continue to post this message with each
list that comes in until my request has been honored.

To others on the list, it has been my pleasure, pardon me for the
intrusion and if you have a connection to the list moderator please let
them know my dilemma.

Thanks!

Katherine

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>    1. Re: HTML Email (michael ensor)
>    2. Re: _target= opening new window parameters? newbie chimes in.
> (Daniel Medley)
>    3. Re: _target= opening new window parameters? newbie chimes in.
> (aardvark)
>    4. Re: hiding CSS (aardvark)
>    5. RE: NS4 and nested tables GRRR! (Olly)
>    6. RE: HTML Email (Paul Backhouse)
>    7. Re: _target= opening new window parameters? newbie chimes in.
> (Daniel Medley)
>    8. vertical text css? (Scarlett Julian (ED))
>    9. Re: hiding CSS (rudy)
>   10. Re: vertical text css? (rudy)
>   11. Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css? (kristina)
>   12. RE: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css? (Scarlett Julian (ED))
>   13. Re: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css? (rudy)
>   14. Re: vertical text css? (Richard Bennett)
>   15. RE: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css? (Schoolcraft, Jeffrey)
>   16. replace text link with image php (Andrew Maynes)
>   17. Re: mac & localhost (Daniel J. Cody)
>   18. RE: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css? (Scarlett Julian (ED))
>   19. RE: replace text link with image php (J. Scott Johnson)
>   20. SSI not working on MacIE5 browsers (William Kolean)
>   21. RE: replace text link with image php (Andrew Maynes)
>   22. Re: Flash Player 6 breaks swfs made on flash 5? (Erik Mattheis)
>   23. RE: replace text link with image php (Ben Phillips)
>   24. Re: hiding CSS (Erik Mattheis)
>   25. dedicated server in the us (Ben Phillips)
>   26. RE: replace text link with image php (Andrew Maynes)
>   27. RE: dedicated server in the us (J. Scott Johnson)
>   28. RE: replace text link with image php (Ben Phillips)
>   29. RE: replace text link with image php (Ben Phillips)
>   30. RE: Date and Time issue Worldwide (Rob Smith)
>   31. RE: dedicated server in the us (Casey Crookston)
>   32. Interesting Problem with ASP (Rob Smith)
>   33. RE: Interesting Problem with ASP (Scott Dexter)
>   34. RE: dedicated server in the us (Ben Phillips)
>   35. RE: Interesting Problem with ASP (Rob Smith)
>   36. Re: dedicated server in the us (David Kutcher)
>   37. RE: replace text link with image php (Andrew Maynes)
>   38. RE: dedicated server in the us (Chris Mason)
>   39. RE: dedicated server in the us (J. Scott Johnson)
>   40. Re: Interesting Problem with ASP (Joshua Olson)
>   41. RE: Interesting Problem with ASP (Eric Engelmann)
>   42. RE: digital handshake on website (was: dedicated server in the
> us) (Ben Phillips)
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> Message: 1
> From: "michael ensor" <edc at wnc.quik.co.nz>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] HTML Email
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 23:40:58 +1200
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
> yes well apart from my little rant,
>
> some clients will tell the sender that they have got an html format, and
> display the text  message.
>
> Some will also include the "code" that comes with the html email
> depending on how you set your ' client ' this may be good or bad.
>
> Sorry this is way off the original question, but I am sure someone way
> better qualified than I am can explain MIME and headers, packets, and
> mail
> clients!!! [ well I only do it when I absolutely have to!]
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Backhouse" <paul.backhouse at 2cs.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [thelist] HTML Email
>
>
>> So essentially if your email client doesn't support HTML then you get
>> nothing in the email - if there is normal text in it then the client
>> will
>> show this?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> If you want to send a mail to me i'm using mutt on a Unix machine.
>>
>> Usually when I get sent messages from Outlook they get send in plain
>> text
> &
>> HTML format and the client just chooses the plain text one.
>>
>> You'd have to make sure it was doing that as trying ot read heavy HTML
>> document is annoying.
>>
>> - Kevin
>>
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> Message: 2
> From: "Daniel Medley" <dm at lgcy.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] _target= opening new window parameters? newbie
> chimes in.
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:54:11 -0700
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>
>
>> <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
>> function HughWindow() {
>> newWindow =
>>
> window.open("../info.html","WinName","toolbar=no,location=no,scrollbars=yes,
>> width=400,height=500");
>> }
>> </script>
>>
>> and then you'd call that thusly (which ensures those without JS enabled
> will
>> still see the page view just a new window, but at least they'll see
>> it):
>>
>> <a href="../info.html" target="_blank"
>> onClick="javascript:HughWindow();return false;">
>>
> I've noticed that when I use a script similar to the one above, it does
> indeed open up a new browser window in a JS disabled browser, however it
> seems that the new window (nn 4.7) does not render the styles of the
> linked
> style sheet. Is there a way around this?
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel.
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> From: "aardvark" <roselli at earthlink.net>
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:08:46 -0400
> Subject: Re: [thelist] _target= opening new window parameters? newbie
> chimes in.
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> From: "Daniel Medley" <dm at lgcy.com>
> [...]
>>> <script language="javascript" type="text/javascript">
>>> function HughWindow() {
>>> newWindow =
> [...]
>> I've noticed that
>> when I use a script similar to the one above, it does indeed open up a
>> new browser window in a JS disabled browser, however it seems that the
>> new window (nn 4.7) does not render the styles of the linked style
>> sheet. Is there a way around this?
>
> in NN4.x, disabling JS also disables CSS... there are some posts on this
> recently, but in short, NN4.x was in development when the CSS spec was
> settled, and NN4.x had already begun developing JSSS (JS powered CSS,
> effectively) in its browser... instead of rebuilding it, they just
> slapped an
> interpreter to convert CSS to JSSS within the browser...
>
> so killing JS in NN4.x kills CSS...
>
>
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> Message: 4
> From: "aardvark" <roselli at earthlink.net>
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 08:13:15 -0400
> Subject: Re: [thelist] hiding CSS
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> From: Erik Mattheis <gozz at gozz.com>
> [...]
>> I think the misinterpretation might be that I'm thinking of styles
>> like:
>>
>> position: fixed -> between the platforms and browser brands that
>> support" it, there is a huge difference in how it changes the
>> interpretation of left,top,right,bottom
>>
>> and
>>
>> many styles when applied to certain form elements -> render
>> completely different in IE Mac and IE Win and NN 6
>>
>> In these examples, there's no @import fix.
>
> yes, given that, i see where you are coming from... however, i don't
> rely on
> that kind of stuff working exactly the same between browsers, so i'm not
> automatically cutting out browsers just because of that stuff...
>
>>>> So what's wrong with not showing them styles? Certainly you're
>>>> not advocating a site that requires CSS ...  that would be unlike
>>>> you!
>>>
>>> what's wrong with not showing them styles is that there's no reason
>>> *not* to...
>>
>> Certainly there is: If the browser attempts to render the style but
>> gets it screwed up in a manner that's not acceptable, you might want
>> to hide the style - or better (drumroll...) use JavaScript to serve
>> that browser a stylesheet that works (*rimshot*).
>
> in the case of styles that are buggy, sure, but what about type and
> colors?
> what about developers who've built CSS that actually *works*? or
> something
> like evolt.org, where the CSS is just style on top of a tabled layout?
>
>>> conversely, if i were to 'disable' CSS, should JS also go with it?
>>> should they be inextricably linked?
>>
>> In some cases, actually, yes ... it might be more compatible to hide
>> CSS altogether for some browsers when doing DHTML ... or at least the
>> style definitions involved in the DHTML.
>
> at that point, the lack of JS would, by its very nature, prevent the
> styles
> defined in the DHTML from working... i'm not talking dynamic here...
>
>>>> a. use a combination of JavaScript and @import
>>>>  b. require JavaScript
>>>>  c. Forget about what you were trying to do
>>>
>>> i'd go with (c) before i even hack the @import syntax, but i try to
>>> be a purist, so that's a given...
>>>
>>> and by (c), i think we both mean try to find another way to do it...
>>> failing that, gut it...
>>
>> Right, we both understand (c) to mean examining another approach, but
>> if there's no other approach, we would seem to disagree:
>>
>> If given the choice between
>>
>> 1. Showing something incredibly bad or unusable to perfectly good
>> browsers like IE 5 Mac and Opera 6 2. Showing no styles to browsers
>> where someone has fiddled with the preferences
>>
>> I'd say, "tough luck" to those without JS.
>
> not quite my approach... i try not to create or use styles that will
> break a
> browser anyway, as opposed to unstyling it all...
>
> as for fiddling with preferences, i consider font size and resolution
> adjustments to also be fiddling with preferences, and my CSS accomodates
> those users...
>
>
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> Message: 5
> From: "Olly" <gnarly at punkass.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] NS4 and nested tables GRRR!
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:21:32 +0100
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
>> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of
>> niklaus.haldimann at xmedia.ch
>> Subject: RE: [thelist] NS4 and nested tables GRRR!
>>
>> try putting a <br clear="all" /> at the end of the containing td
>> element.
>
> That works a treat! Thank you very much. I'm happy now :-)
>
> Olly (learning something new every day)
>
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> Message: 6
> From: "Paul Backhouse" <paul.backhouse at 2cs.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] HTML Email
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:30:32 +0100
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Thanks for everyones help reguarding this matter - I've been able to
> give a
> could response to my mate as he's well happy.
>
> muchos thankos
>
> Paul
>
>
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> Message: 7
> From: "Daniel Medley" <dm at lgcy.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] _target= opening new window parameters? newbie
> chimes in.
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:37:58 -0700
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
>> in NN4.x, disabling JS also disables CSS... there are some posts on
>> this
>> recently, but in short, NN4.x was in development when the CSS spec was
>> settled, and NN4.x had already begun developing JSSS (JS powered CSS,
>> effectively) in its browser... instead of rebuilding it, they just
>> slapped
> an
>> interpreter to convert CSS to JSSS within the browser...
>>
>> so killing JS in NN4.x kills CSS...
>>
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>
> I see, thanks for the info. I'm assuming that this is not an issue with
> the
> newer versions, right?
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> From: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett at sheffield.gov.uk>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:40:52 +0100
> Subject: [thelist] vertical text css?
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> HI all
>
> I have a table in a word doc (oh joy!!) to put on a web site. The table
> is
> 13 cols x 194 rows. My main problem is that the column headings are
> quite
> long and this means the table is very wide and the users will have to
> scroll
> sideways - if at all possible I want to avoid this. In the word doc the
> text
> is laid out vertically to save space and I was wondering if there was
> anyway
> to this in html. I don't want to use images.
>
> any ideas?
> tia
>
> Julian Scarlett
> Web Design & Document Management System Officer
> PPU
> Education Directorate
> Sheffield City Council
>
> julian.scarlett at sheffield.gov.uk
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> Message: 9
> From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] hiding CSS
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:24:21 -0400
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> If given the choice between
>>
>>  1. Showing something incredibly bad or unusable to
>>       perfectly good browsers like IE 5 Mac and Opera 6
>>  2. Showing no styles to browsers where someone has
>>       fiddled with the preferences
>>
>>  I'd say, "tough luck" to those without JS.
>
> hi erik
>
> please, i do not want to argue, and you did a good job of saying IF you
> were given that choice...
>
> ... but that's silly, because those are not the only choices
>
>
> here's another one, and please don't be defensive, it's not aimed at you
>
> if given the choice between developing
>
>     1  styles that work smoothly in all browsers
>     2  styles that require weeks of fiddling around
>
> then i'd rather play with my kids or watch Win Ben Stein's Money
>
>
> rudy
>
>
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> Message: 10
> From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] vertical text css?
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:12:23 -0400
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> I have a table in a word doc (oh joy!!) to put on a web site.
>> The table is 13 cols x 194 rows. My main problem is that the
>> column headings are quite long and this means the table is very wide
>
> hi julian
>
> there are six basic solutions
>
> 1. use images for column headings
>
> you said you didn't wanna
>
> 2. use IE-proprietary syntax
>
> this would work fine on an IE-only intranet, and if you're really
> interested, the best i can do is refer you to http://microsoft.com for
> details
>
> 3. use A, B, C, etc., as column headings, and then place a legend under
> the
> table --
>
>    A= this year's consolidated earnings before tax and unusual items
>    B= last year's net profits after accounting for the president's bonus
>    C= ratio A/B to the price of tea in china
>
> you don't actually have to use A, B, C -- user-recognizable
> abbreviations
> are often sufficient, and may make the full descriptions in the legend
> unnecessary
>
> 4. split it up into several tables
>
> this is my personal favourite -- it places the focus on determining the
> importance of each and every column, and whether 13 of them all at once
> might not be information overload
>
> redesign the UI and everybody's happy, and you won't have any vertical
> text
> neither
>
> 5. damn the users, let 'em scroll
>
> 6. don't convert to html, place the word doc on the web site
>
>
> i included the last two because although they are offensive, they work
>
>
> rudy
> http://rudy.ca/
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:14:11 +0100
> From: kristina <kristina at kfx-design.co.uk>
> Organization: kFx
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css?
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>
> on Monday, April 15, 2002, 3:12:23 PM, rudy wrote:
>
> <>
>>> I have a table in a word doc (oh joy!!) to put on a web site.
>>> The table is 13 cols x 194 rows. My main problem is that the
>>> column headings are quite long and this means the table is very wide
>
>> there are six basic solutions
> <>
>
> + plain <br />?
> a
> <br />b
> <br />c
> <br />d
> <br />e
>
> though I reckon that would be a major PITA!!
>
> --
> hth
> ~kristina
>
>
> kristina at kfx-design.co.uk
> http://kfx-design.co.uk/
> icq: 38340942 (requires authorization)
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> From: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett at sheffield.gov.uk>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css?
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:19:48 +0100
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> + plain <br />?
>> a
>> <br />b
>> <br />c
>> <br />d
>> <br />e
>>
>> though I reckon that would be a major PITA!!
>
> not only a PITA for me to code but a severe PITFA for anyone using a
> screen
> reader to access the page ;-)
>
> J.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kristina [mailto:kristina at kfx-design.co.uk]
>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:14 PM
>> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>> Subject: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css?
>>
>>
>>
>> on Monday, April 15, 2002, 3:12:23 PM, rudy wrote:
>>
>> <>
>>>> I have a table in a word doc (oh joy!!) to put on a web site.
>>>> The table is 13 cols x 194 rows. My main problem is that the
>>>> column headings are quite long and this means the table is
>> very wide
>>
>>> there are six basic solutions
>> <>
>>
>> + plain <br />?
>> a
>> <br />b
>> <br />c
>> <br />d
>> <br />e
>>
>> though I reckon that would be a major PITA!!
>>
>> --
>> hth
>> ~kristina
>>
>>
>> kristina at kfx-design.co.uk
>> http://kfx-design.co.uk/
>> icq: 38340942 (requires authorization)
>>
>>
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> Message: 13
> From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css?
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:22:48 -0400
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> not only a PITA for me to code but a severe PITFA
>> for anyone using a screen reader to access the page ;-)
>
> good point
>
> but then, if you seriously expect visitors using screen readers, you
> definitely have too many columns!!
>
> as a test, have someone read out the headings to you, then start reading
> out the rows, and after a dozen or so rows, have them stop arbitrarily
> on
> some value and ask you which column it belongs to
>
>
> rudy
>
>
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> Message: 14
> From: "Richard Bennett" <richard.bennett at skynet.be>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] vertical text css?
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:30:57 -0500
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Hi,
> <----- Original Message -----
> <From: "rudy" <r937 at interlog.com>
>
> <6. don't convert to html, place the word doc on the web site
>
> Or convert to PDF, many browsers render this in the browser to.
>
> Richard.
>
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>
> Message: 15
> From: "Schoolcraft, Jeffrey" <JSchoolcraft at SytexInc.com>
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css?
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:36:49 -0400
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Here, you might want to check out this:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
> us/dnie55/html
> /verticaltext.asp
>
> (be aware of wrap)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> From: "Andrew Maynes" <andrew at uk-webdeveloper.co.uk>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:42:53 +0100
> Subject: [thelist] replace text link with image php
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> I have a php script that calls links from a csv file is there a way to
> represent
> the text links as images here is the code calling the categories
>
>
> if (!$g) $g = substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10); 			$show++;
>
> 			if ($show != 1) echo " | ";
>
> 			echo "<A href=\"products.php?m=$m&g=". substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10)
> ."\">$s[1]</A>";
>
>
> andrew
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> Message: 17
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 09:42:22 -0500
> From: "Daniel J. Cody" <djc at members.evolt.org>
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: Re: [thelist] mac & localhost
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Gey George -
>
> On OSX, edit the /etc/hosts file and enter something like:
>
> 111.222.111.222 chewbacca
>
> with whatever IP address chewy is. You can also do it from Netinfo it
> looks like, machines -> add although I'm not that familiar with netinfo
> yet..
>
> hth :)
>
> .djc.
> -proud to have answered his first OSX question :)-
>
> George Klingenhoffer wrote:
>> Is there a way for MacOS9x or OSX to recognize the computer name of my
>> web
>> server (which runs WinXP)?  I could use the IP address but it's easier
>> to
>> remember the computer name.
>>
>> Example:
>> http://chewbacca/new.asp
>>
>> Thanks!
>
>
>
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> Message: 18
> From: "Scarlett Julian (ED)" <Julian.Scarlett at sheffield.gov.uk>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css?
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:45:02 +0100
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> I was under the impression that a screen reader will associate column
> headers with data cells as long as you markup the column headers
> correctly
> ie using <th> not <td>. To quote the person (who is a co-author of
> books on
> accessibility)
>
> "Screen reader access to a table is independent of size. If the table is
> properly marked up, the headings will be spoken as one navigates around
> the
> table, so the larger table adds to the sighted user's difficulty more
> than
> it adds to problems for a blind user."
>
> J.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rudy [mailto:r937 at interlog.com]
>> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:23 PM
>> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [thelist] vertical text css?
>>
>>
>>> not only a PITA for me to code but a severe PITFA
>>> for anyone using a screen reader to access the page ;-)
>>
>> good point
>>
>> but then, if you seriously expect visitors using screen readers, you
>> definitely have too many columns!!
>>
>> as a test, have someone read out the headings to you, then
>> start reading
>> out the rows, and after a dozen or so rows, have them stop
>> arbitrarily on
>> some value and ask you which column it belongs to
>>
>>
>> rudy
>>
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> Message: 19
> From: "J. Scott Johnson" <scott at fuzzygroup.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:47:43 -0400
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> I'm not 100% sure I understand but why not include a small GIF between
> the
> anchor tags to indicate its a picture.  Another option is a thumbnail.
>
> Is that what you're asking?
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Maynes
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] replace text link with image php
>
>
> I have a php script that calls links from a csv file is there a way to
> represent
> the text links as images here is the code calling the categories
>
>
> if (!$g) $g = substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10); 			$show++;
>
> 			if ($show != 1) echo " | ";
>
> 			echo "<A href=\"products.php?m=$m&g=". substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10)
> ."\">$s[1]</A>";
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:57:32 -0400
> From: William Kolean <williamkolean at mac.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: [thelist] SSI not working on MacIE5 browsers
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> I've been working on a site that is being hosted on Solaris running
> Netscape
> Enterprise 3.5.1C. It uses a simple server side include to insert news
> headlines in the right-hand column, and works perfectly EXCEPT for Mac
> IE5
> users, who get a [an error occurred while processing this directive]
> message. Sometimes you have to click on a few headlines before you see
> the
> problem. Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this? I did a
> google
> search but all I found were a lot of sites with their own SSI problems.
> According to the server admin, nothing is showing up in the server logs.
>
> The web site is http://advertising.wsj.com/index.shtml This page is
> only for
> testing purposes, so be careful that you don't click a link that takes
> you
> to the non-.shtml page.
>
> I'm on digest mode so if you could CC my personal email address I would
> appreciate it. Thanks.
>
> William Kolean
> williamkolean at mac.com
>
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> Message: 21
> From: "Andrew Maynes" <andrew at uk-webdeveloper.co.uk>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:58:04 +0100
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> no that isn't it.. I have a csv file with this in it
>
> MAIN GROUP;Fresh Vegetables & Fruit Boxes;
>
> GROUP;vegetable Boxes;
>
> GROUP;Green Vegetables;
>
> GROUP;Fruit;
>
> END;
>
> this is the main group.csv
>
> then there are other csv files with info for the group
>
> GROUP;Fresh Vegetables & Fruit Boxes;
> NAME;1;VEGETABLE BOX;
> OPTION1;0;-;-;
> OPTION2;1;-;-;
> PRICE;9.50;
> OFFER;-;
> WEIGHT;-;
> PIC1;-;
> PIC2;-;
> TEXT;Each week the box contains 8-9 types of seasonal vegetables such as
> potatoes, carrots, spinach, broccoli, parsnips, tomatoes, courgettes,
> leeks, red
> pepper, mushrooms, celeriac, swede, chard and many more. Price includes
> delivery.;
> END;
>
>
> the link on the page gets pulled by the php code
>
> if (!$g) $g = substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10); 			$show++;
>
> 			if ($show != 1) echo " | ";
>
> 			echo "<A href=\"products.php?m=$m&g=". substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10)
> ."\">$s[1]</A>";
>
>
> which displays the test as a link what i want to do is call an image
> that
> represents the text?  does this sound possible?
>
> andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of J. Scott Johnson
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 03:48
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
>
>
> I'm not 100% sure I understand but why not include a small GIF between
> the
> anchor tags to indicate its a picture.  Another option is a thumbnail.
>
> Is that what you're asking?
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Maynes
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] replace text link with image php
>
>
> I have a php script that calls links from a csv file is there a way to
> represent
> the text links as images here is the code calling the categories
>
>
> if (!$g) $g = substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10); 			$show++;
>
> 			if ($show != 1) echo " | ";
>
> 			echo "<A href=\"products.php?m=$m&g=". substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10)
> ."\">$s[1]</A>";
>
>
> andrew
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> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:06:08 -0500
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: Erik Mattheis <gozz at gozz.com>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Flash Player 6 breaks swfs made on flash 5?
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> The movie shows up, and some of the simple stuff works but anything
>> that
>> relies on actionscript seems to be non-functional.
>
> Maybe download the MX trial and see if it traces any errors - or
> works when exported as Flash 5 from Flash MX.
>
>> I meant in the browser...ie dyamically loading and unloading different
>> versions of the Flash plugin to view what the Movie looks like thru
>> different plugins...
>
> If it's the plug-in, you can just replace the plug in in the plug-ins
> folder and restart the browser.
>
> For the Active-X control, it's a bit trickier - search for "uninstall
> flash" on Macromedia's site.
>
> However, the player works (with rare exceptions) the same nomatter
> what browser you're running it under - you if you have multiple
> browsers, you also the ability to text multiple plug-ns without
> installing/uninstalling.
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> Message: 23
> From: "Ben Phillips" <ben at inchima.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:05:59 +0100
> Organization: Inchima
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> which displays the test as a link what i want to do is call
>> an image that represents the text?  does this sound possible?
>
> if you know what the text is going to be, then you can prepare the image
> in advance, have it on the server, and then call it like this:
>
> : echo "<A href=\"products.php?m=$m&g=". substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10)
> ."\"><img src=\"$s[1].gif\" alt=\"$s[1]\"></A>";
>
> if the text is 'Carrots', this will show Carrots.gif.
>
> if you don't know what the text is going to be, then you need to
> generate the images on the fly. try ImageMagick:
> <www.imagemagick.org/> or PHP's built in GD functions (if they are
> included in your install):
> <http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.image.php> &
> <http://www.boutell.com/gd/>
>
> benji
> inchima.com
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:18:03 -0500
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> From: Erik Mattheis <gozz at gozz.com>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] hiding CSS
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> At 8:13 AM -0400 4/15/02, aardvark wrote:
>>> In these examples, there's no @import fix.
>>
>> yes, given that, i see where you are coming from... however, i don't
>> rely on
>> that kind of stuff working exactly the same between browsers, so i'm
>> not
>> automatically cutting out browsers just because of that stuff...
>
> Right, right, right ... wacky stuff _doesn't_ work the same between
> browsers - even between browsers that accept every syntax of @import
> known to Man.
>
> So the options becomes not using something because it's implemented
> differently in some browsers (something that we all in this thread
> agree is a bad idea, since we're attempting to fix it with @import),
> or relying on JavaScript.
>
> BTW, relying on JS for some styles does not preclude one from using
> @import for others ... I've not done it ... but I have served a
> stylesheet w/o JS, and on the same page used JS to serve the funky
> stuff ... there's five stylesheets, and any given browser gets no
> more than 2 - only one with JS turned off. Is there anything wrong
> with that?
>
> At 9:24 AM -0400 4/15/02, rudy wrote:
>> please, i do not want to argue, and you did a good job of saying IF you
>> were given that choice...
>>
>> ... but that's silly, because those are not the only choices
>>
>> here's another one, and please don't be defensive, it's not aimed at
>> you
>>
>> if given the choice between developing
>>
>>     1  styles that work smoothly in all browsers
>>     2  styles that require weeks of fiddling around
>>
>> then i'd rather play with my kids or watch Win Ben Stein's Money
>
> And At 8:13 AM -0400 4/15/02, aardvark responded:
>> not quite my approach... i try not to create or use styles that will
>> break a
>> browser anyway, as opposed to unstyling it all...
>
> Right, and I see where you're coming from from your perspective: you
> don't _have to_ fiddle around with styles or use styles that you
> _know_ are never going to work in some browsers. But I do, and I'm
> confident in asserting that many other evolters do too.
>
> So for those of us that get these admittedly wacky projects, we have
> the option of doing some wacky stuff or loosing a client and letting
> them find someone else to do their wacky stuff for them.
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>
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> Message: 25
> From: "Ben Phillips" <ben at inchima.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:27:19 +0100
> Organization: Inchima
> Subject: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> hi all,
>
> this question has probably been asked about a zillion times already on
> thelist, but i have searched the archives and can't find anything recent
> that helps me.
>
> basically, we are a uk company and have so far hosted all our clients
> with uk partners on uk based servers. however, we now have a big us
> client, and need a dedicated server in the us.
>
> so, i'm basically looking for anybody who has good personal experience
> with a hosting company in the us who provides dedicated hosting
> services... as cheap as possible!!
>
> thanks in advance,
> benji.
>
>
>
> --__--__--
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> Message: 26
> From: "Andrew Maynes" <andrew at uk-webdeveloper.co.uk>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:33:53 +0100
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Ben this works like some kind of magic I am so happy except for a
> border around
> the image!
>
> cant believe it was so simple ;D not for me though!
> andrew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Ben Phillips
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 04:06
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
>
>
>> which displays the test as a link what i want to do is call
>> an image that represents the text?  does this sound possible?
>
> if you know what the text is going to be, then you can prepare the image
> in advance, have it on the server, and then call it like this:
>
> : echo "<A href=\"products.php?m=$m&g=". substr (md5 ($s[1]), 0, 10)
> ."\"><img src=\"$s[1].gif\" alt=\"$s[1]\"></A>";
>
> if the text is 'Carrots', this will show Carrots.gif.
>
> if you don't know what the text is going to be, then you need to
> generate the images on the fly. try ImageMagick:
> <www.imagemagick.org/> or PHP's built in GD functions (if they are
> included in your install):
> <http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.image.php> &
> <http://www.boutell.com/gd/>
>
> benji
> inchima.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 27
> From: "J. Scott Johnson" <scott at fuzzygroup.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:33:26 -0400
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> I like www.tierranet.com.  Been a customer for years, good quality, good
> support, php and perl available.
>
> If you need your own box then http://www.rackspace.com/ is good.
> www.rackshack.com is cheaper but I haven't used them (yet).
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Ben Phillips
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:27 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
>
>
> hi all,
>
> this question has probably been asked about a zillion times already on
> thelist, but i have searched the archives and can't find anything recent
> that helps me.
>
> basically, we are a uk company and have so far hosted all our clients
> with uk partners on uk based servers. however, we now have a big us
> client, and need a dedicated server in the us.
>
> so, i'm basically looking for anybody who has good personal experience
> with a hosting company in the us who provides dedicated hosting
> services... as cheap as possible!!
>
> thanks in advance,
> benji.
>
>
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> Message: 28
> From: "Ben Phillips" <ben at inchima.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:35:19 +0100
> Organization: Inchima
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> Ben this works like some kind of magic I am so happy except
>> for a border around the image!
>
> try <img src=\"$s[1].gif\" alt=\"$s[1]\" border="0"> then...
>
> benji
> inchima.com
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 29
> From: "Ben Phillips" <ben at inchima.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:39:27 +0100
> Organization: Inchima
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> try <img src=\"$s[1].gif\" alt=\"$s[1]\" border="0"> then...
>
> sorry. i forgot to escape the quotes...
>
> <img src=\"$s[1].gif\" alt=\"$s[1]\" border=\"0\">
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 30
> From: Rob Smith <rob.smith at thermon.com>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Date and Time issue Worldwide
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:39:02 -0500
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not
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>
> I hate to bring this back up, but here's a new twist to the scheme. I've
> tried most data formats you've suggested. I agree, even though I'm
> American,
> with the DD/MM/YYYY format, Just makes sense. However, I'm using SQL
> Server
> 7 w/Enterprise Manager as my interface with them (if you're familiar).
>
> I entered the date:
>
> 4/15/02 --> 4/15/2002
> 5/8/02 --> 5/8/2002
> 15/4/02 --> 4/15/2002  hmmm...
> 13/8/02 --> 8/13/2002
>
> It appears as we all don't have a choice in the matter. UNLESS there
> is a
> way to configure the date/time settings format there. I've looked for a
> good
> 15 minutes on Microsoft, Google (Elmer fudd :-p), codeanimal and still
> haven't found the answer. Does the following snippet seem familiar:
> <snip>SET DATE FORMAT TO "dd/mm/yyyy" </snip>. I haven't seen the
> documentation in the manuals about this.
>
> Merci,
>
> Rob
>
>
> Howdy,
>
>>> ... as this format is the least misunderstood
>
>> oh?
>>
>> i suppose the 23th follows the 22st?
>
> (groan)  I'm tired, leave me alone  :P
>
>>> If I have to shorten it, then I use  23-Jan-02
>>
>>
>> quick, is 30-Feb-28 valid?
>>
>> don't shorten it
>
> Very true.  30-Feb-28 is the 28th of Feb, 2030 when looked at it with
> Japanese standards.
> ^M^
>
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> Message: 31
> Subject: RE: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:30:42 -0500
> From: "Casey Crookston" <casey.crookston at imibevcore.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> I've been nothing but pleased with www.sirgo.net.  Wonderful service,
> extreemly competative rates...
>
> But I'm curious.  Why do you need to host in the U.S. just because that
> is where the client is?
>
> Casey
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Phillips [mailto:ben at inchima.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:27 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
>
>
> hi all,
>
> this question has probably been asked about a zillion times already on
> thelist, but i have searched the archives and can't find anything recent
> that helps me.
>
> basically, we are a uk company and have so far hosted all our clients
> with uk partners on uk based servers. however, we now have a big us
> client, and need a dedicated server in the us.
>
> so, i'm basically looking for anybody who has good personal experience
> with a hosting company in the us who provides dedicated hosting
> services... as cheap as possible!!
>
> thanks in advance,
> benji.
>
>
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> Message: 32
> From: Rob Smith <rob.smith at thermon.com>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:40:22 -0500
> Subject: [thelist] Interesting Problem with ASP
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
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>
> Hi thelist,
>
> I can't figure this one out. Have any of you ever heard of fields
> pulled in
> from a DB that just do not want to be displayed?
>
> I've quadruple checked spellings, connections, syntax, usage, and
> replaced
> other fields in its place, but to no avail, I cannot get this one
> particular
> field to show up.
>
> This event shows up on only 1 field of 1 table of 1 database. Everything
> else shows up just fine. I've checked permissions of everything for that
> user, and columns too. Nothing is out of the ordinary.
>
> Similar Problems,
>
> Rob
>
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>
> Message: 33
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Interesting Problem with ASP
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:46:15 -0500
> From: "Scott Dexter" <sgd at ti3.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rob Smith [mailto:rob.smith at thermon.com]
>>
>> I can't figure this one out. Have any of you ever heard of
>> fields pulled in from a DB that just do not want to be displayed?
>>
>
> Are you getting an error?
>
> what datatype is the field?
>
> Is there data in the field?
>
> more detail please,
> sgd
>
>
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> Message: 34
> From: "Ben Phillips" <ben at inchima.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:47:41 +0100
> Organization: Inchima
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>
>> I've been nothing but pleased with www.sirgo.net.  Wonderful
>> service, extreemly competative rates...
>>
>> But I'm curious.  Why do you need to host in the U.S. just
>> because that is where the client is?
>>
>> Casey
>
> because they said so. it makes them feel more comfortable apparently.
> *shrug*
>
> we have hosted in the uk for all our other clients, the only difference
> with this client is that they want to have more hands-on control of the
> server/website after launch. this is fine with us as once the job is
> signed off we will have nothing more to do with it unless requested (and
> a new job scope is then created).
>
> so, one of their requirements is hosting in the us.
>
> benji
> inchima.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 35
> From: Rob Smith <rob.smith at thermon.com>
> To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Interesting Problem with ASP
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 10:52:02 -0500
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>
> Are you getting an error?
>
> Nope. The opening query even sorts this field by date.
>
> what datatype is the field?
>
> date/time
>
> Is there data in the field?
>
> Yes.
>
> more detail please,
>
> I've tried misspelling the column name and of course, it throws an
> error.
> There is data in that field. Every other field queried shows up. There
> just
> isn't any data showing up here. This is by far the strangest thing I've
> ever
> seen:
>
> set article = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
> article.ActiveConnection = MM_cms_STRING
> article.Source = "SELECT cf.CMSFeatureTitle, cf.CMSFeatureTeaser,
> cf.CMSFeatureIMGURL, cf.CMSFExpireDate, cf.CMSFeatureBody,
> cf.CMSFPublishDate, cf.CMSUserID, cu.CMSUserID FROM CMSFeature cf CROSS
> JOIN
> CMSUser cu  WHERE cf.CMSFeatureID = '" +
> Replace(article__FID, "'", "''") +
> "' AND cf.CMSUserID = cu.CMSUserID"
> article.Open()
>
> ----
>
> Published :<%=(article.Fields.Item("CMSFPublishDate").Value)%> <~~~
> Don't
> display anything.
>
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> Message: 36
> From: "David Kutcher" <david_kutcher at hotmail.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:51:19 -0400
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>
> Assuming the hosting facility you choose is connected to one of the US
> backbones, connections within the continental US will be faster (and
> sometimes much faster) than if the hosting is done off-continent.
>
> Hops, skips, jumps... they all make a difference in connection speed.
> And,
> when there are *incidents* when the cables between continents get
> accidentally snapped by fishing trawlers (it does happen) and such, you
> can
> be assured that your primary audience (if the company's primary
> audience is
> in the US) still has fast connectivity.
>
> David
> www.confluentforms.com
>
>
>>> But I'm curious.  Why do you need to host in the U.S. just
>>> because that is where the client is?
>
>> because they said so. it makes them feel more comfortable apparently.
>> *shrug*
>
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> Message: 37
> From: "Andrew Maynes" <andrew at uk-webdeveloper.co.uk>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:56:51 +0100
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>
> works like a dream
> cheers
> andrew
>
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> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Ben Phillips
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 04:39
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: [thelist] replace text link with image php
>
>
>> try <img src=\"$s[1].gif\" alt=\"$s[1]\" border="0"> then...
>
> sorry. i forgot to escape the quotes...
>
> <img src=\"$s[1].gif\" alt=\"$s[1]\" border=\"0\">
>
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> Message: 38
> From: "Chris Mason" <masonc at masonc.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:53:32 -0400
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>
> I have had great success with pwebtech.com Pegasus Web. They supply a
> rock
> solid ded. server and and excellent support. In two years I have never
> had a
> problem.
>
> Chris Mason
> masonc at masonc.com
> Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
> Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
> Take a virtual tour of the island
> http://www.anguillaguide.com/ The Anguilla Guide
> Find your perfect rental villa www.mycaribbean.com
> Talk to me in real time:
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Ben Phillips
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:27 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
>
>
> hi all,
>
> this question has probably been asked about a zillion times already on
> thelist, but i have searched the archives and can't find anything recent
> that helps me.
>
> basically, we are a uk company and have so far hosted all our clients
> with uk partners on uk based servers. however, we now have a big us
> client, and need a dedicated server in the us.
>
> so, i'm basically looking for anybody who has good personal experience
> with a hosting company in the us who provides dedicated hosting
> services... as cheap as possible!!
>
> thanks in advance,
> benji.
>
>
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> Message: 39
> From: "J. Scott Johnson" <scott at fuzzygroup.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:07:02 -0400
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> Just a sidenote about my Rackspace experience.  I like them but their
> prices
> are negotiable!  Read:
>
> http://radio.weblogs.com/0103807/2002/04/02.html#a19
>
> for more.  My account manager told me after I stopped using them that
> they
> would cut the price "if I had asked".  I was furious but their product
> is
> good.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Chris Mason
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:54 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
>
>
> I have had great success with pwebtech.com Pegasus Web. They supply a
> rock
> solid ded. server and and excellent support. In two years I have never
> had a
> problem.
>
> Chris Mason
> masonc at masonc.com
> Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies
> Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463
> Take a virtual tour of the island
> http://www.anguillaguide.com/ The Anguilla Guide
> Find your perfect rental villa www.mycaribbean.com
> Talk to me in real time:
> MSN Instant Messenger: masonc92 at hotmail.com
> ICQ 118159388 Yahoo:netconcepts_anguilla
> US Fax and Voicemail: (605)253-1759
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Ben Phillips
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:27 AM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] dedicated server in the us
>
>
> hi all,
>
> this question has probably been asked about a zillion times already on
> thelist, but i have searched the archives and can't find anything recent
> that helps me.
>
> basically, we are a uk company and have so far hosted all our clients
> with uk partners on uk based servers. however, we now have a big us
> client, and need a dedicated server in the us.
>
> so, i'm basically looking for anybody who has good personal experience
> with a hosting company in the us who provides dedicated hosting
> services... as cheap as possible!!
>
> thanks in advance,
> benji.
>
>
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> Message: 40
> From: "Joshua Olson" <joshua at waetech.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: Re: [thelist] Interesting Problem with ASP
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:21:46 -0400
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Smith" <rob.smith at thermon.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 11:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Interesting Problem with ASP
>
>
>> Published :<%=(article.Fields.Item("CMSFPublishDate").Value)%> <~~~
>> Don't
>> display anything.
>
> What happens when you try the following:
>
> Published: <%= article("CMSFPublishDate") %>
>
> -joshua
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 41
> From: "Eric Engelmann" <eric.engelmann at geonetric.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] Interesting Problem with ASP
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 11:15:46 -0500
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
> If the CMSFeatureBody is a memo/ntext field, move it to last in your
> Select
> statement. I seem to recall some sort of bug with the sequence of
> memo/ntext
> fields, they MUST be last in some scenarios to work.
>
>
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> Message: 42
> From: "Ben Phillips" <ben at inchima.com>
> To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
> Subject: RE: [thelist] digital handshake on website (was: dedicated
> server in the us)
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:17:42 +0100
> Organization: Inchima
> Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
>
>> Just a sidenote about my Rackspace experience.  I like them
>> but their prices are negotiable!  Read:
>>
>> http://radio.weblogs.com/0103807/2002/04/02.html#a19
>>
>> for more.  My account manager told me after I stopped using
>> them that they would cut the price "if I had asked".  I was
>> furious but their product is good.
>
> read it - interesting. i would feel pretty screwed in the same
> circumstances...
>
> i was on their site a few minutes ago and was reading the page and got
> hit with a 'digital handshake' from one of their sales representatives -
> ie. they start chatting to you with a little java applet
> <http://www.groopz.com>. i felt a bit 'invaded' at first, but he was
> nice and we chatted about requirements and stuff, and he seemed
> genuinely interested in my client (okay - he was looking for a sale but
> it was cool anyway). so yeah, it was a good experience, and i am now
> getting sent a proposal, so i guess it works!
>
> nice little application for interacting directly with your customers and
> getting sales. it's like walking into a shop and a sales assistant
> coming up to you and asking you if you need any help. if every website
> did it, i think it might get a bit annoying, but it was so unique to me
> that i have to say it worked.
>
> benji
> inchima.com
>
>
>
>
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