[thelist] RE: Fireworks MX as well

Edward Apostol ed at edapostol.com
Tue Apr 30 12:23:01 CDT 2002


Fireworks MX is out as well, and there is a lot of web integration
functionalities in it that will might make Adobe cry...


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Instructor, Developer - E-Commerce, Wireless and New Media
Ryerson University
Toronto, ON Canada
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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: CFMX (Seth Bienek)
   2. Re: Baseline version for Netscape 6 (sasha)
   3. Downtime this morn.. (Daniel J. Cody)
   4. Setting Window Attributes (Jim Williamson)
   5. IE6 question, involving IFRAME (Raymond Camden)
   6. Ack, last post (Raymond Camden)
   7. RE: Setting Window Attributes (Paul Backhouse)
   8. RE: Setting Window Attributes (Jay Blanchard)
   9. Re: [ASP] slow server. What possible causes? (Karen J. Bowen)
  10. RE: [ASP] slow server. What possible causes? (Scott Dexter)
  11. RE: [ASP] slow server. What possible causes? (David at softv.net)
  12. Re: [ASP] slow server. What possible causes? (Nicole P)
  13. Re: Document.write Issue (Keith)
  14. color correction (Techwatcher)
  15. cheapest no mysql, more lawyer problems (Techwatcher)
  16. RE: Setting Window Attributes (Feingold Josh S)
  17. Virus/Trojan what next... (Liam Delahunty)
  18. RE: Setting Window Attributes (Rob Smith)
  19. Need Reliable Host! (Kevin)
  20. Mac/PC gamma setting differences (Kate Jenkins)
  21. RE: Setting Window Attributes (Liam Delahunty)
  22. Re: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes (sasha)
  23. Re: Need Reliable Host! (NanHarbisonSmith at aol.com)
  24. Re: Mac/PC gamma setting differences (David Kutcher)
  25. Re: Need Reliable Host! (Josh Nolan)
  26. Re: Setting Window Attributes (Keith)
  27. customlog thing from last night (John Handelaar)
  28. Woops     was RE: [thelist] customlog thing from last night (John
Handelaar)
  29. RE: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes (Liam Delahunty)

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Message: 1
From: "Seth Bienek" <seth at sethbienek.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] CFMX
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:36:57 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org


I got ahold of the new version of Dreamweaver (DMX? reminds me of that
song - 'Up in heeaaah!') yesterday, and I have to say I am pretty
pleased with it so far, though it's too soon to tell much..  I will say,
that for it's install size, it seems to load and run very quick.

Those with a fast connection (or time to spare ;) can download the final
preview release version here: www.macromedia.com/go/dmxdl/

You can also pick up the preview release of ColdFusion MX (Server,
english only, windows only) at the same URL.

I'd love to hear what some of you think about them after using `em a
bit.

Be forewarned, DMX is a 62mb download, and CFMX is 77.5mb.

Seth


> -----Original Message-----
> It has a lot of impressive new features too, like slick web services
> integration. You will want to check out the press release.
>
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2002/coldfusion_mx_announc
e.ht
ml
>
> And I have written up a summary some of the new Features here:
> http://www.cfdev.com/mx/



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Message: 2
From: sasha <sasha at bittersweet2.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:51:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [thelist] Baseline version for Netscape 6
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Why should a designer who wants to test on various
browsers (which may or may not all be 100% standards
compliant -- afterall, which browser is?) want the most compliant
version just because it is the most compliant? That doesn't make a whole
lot of sense if said designer wants to make sure their design looks good
on most browsers.

If you've got the disk space, I see no reason why you
can't just install several different versions of NS 6.
It isn't like IE where you can only choose one.  I
personally have NS 6.0 (the amazing crashing browser)
because I only use it for checking web sites, not as my
default browser.  Pick a couple (maybe 6.0 & 6.2, or
whatever).  Maybe you don't have to pick at all if you
can get your co-workers to check your sites with
whatever browsers they have installed.

I personally would think 6.0 would be the baseline
version to go off of, since it is the earliest version
in the series.  Later versions would mostly be tweaks
and crash fixes.  But, if you know which one is the most
buggy, that should be the one you pick :-).

Christy "sasha" Siepker
http://www.bittersweet2.com

4/30/2002 12:37:13 AM, "Daniel J. Cody"
<djc at members.evolt.org> wrote:

>Clive -
>
>The prob with pre6.2 releases is that they were based
on very old
>versions(by todays standards) of mozilla. 6.1 for
example was based on
>moz 0.9.2 and 6.0 milestone18 of the mozilla browser..
>
>thousands of bugs that probably impact a great number
of things you'd
>want to test have been fixed in the meantime. i'd
recommend NS 6.2.2
>which is based on the 0.9.9(i think) release of
mozilla, which is a very
>good browser in the standards dept.
>
>hth! :)
>
>.djc.
>
>Clive R Sweeney wrote:
>> I've been using Netscape 6.21 for some time now and
depend on it to
>> fairly represent NN6 in my website testing. Today I
found that some of
>> my coworkers are testing with earlier versions of
NN6. It's my
>> understanding that the early versions are too buggy
to depend on, but
>> I'd like to hear other opinions on what would be the
best choice as a
>> single baseline Netscape 6 browser.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:46:24 -0500
From: "Daniel J. Cody" <djc at members.evolt.org>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org, theforum at lists.evolt.org,
thesite at lists.evolt.org,
   themembers at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] Downtime this morn..
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hey folks -

As some of you may have noticed, all of the evolt.org sites where down
between about 7:45am - 9:15am CST this morn. Everything is back up now..

There was a power outage/brownout/flux/surge/something this morn here in
downtown Milwaukee which somehow tricked the power managment software on
all of our servers(except our oracle box oddly enough) into thinking
they should power down before power was lost all together for a clean
shutdown.. I'm still looking into why the UPS system sent that message
to them.

If that weren't bad enough, the power problem also fried the main router
here where evolt is hosted. Thankfully, we do have a backup router for
just such an emergency, but it did take about 45 minutes to put it in
place of the failed router.  About a half hour ago, everything was in
place and back up and running. Any emails sent durning that time should
be delivered, so no need to resend them.. members.evolt.org accounts are
also back up, as are the rest of the evolt.org services.

Very sorry about any inconviences the problems may have caused! If
anyone has questions or anything, feel free to contact me as usual :)

And now, I think it's time I start shopping for a new UPS system..

.djc.


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Message: 4
From: "Jim Williamson" <lakeridge_jim at hotmail.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:55:37 -0400
Subject: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hi all,

I have a requirement to develop a training program using html.  One of
the requirements is that the courseware run in a browser window with
only the toolbar showing.  Question, how do I code my page so that when
you access my webpage that it automatically opens with only the toolbar
showing.  I've looked at window.open in Javascript, but that seems to be
used only for opening a new window.  I need each page to open with only
the toolbar showing.  Is this possible?

TIA

Jim Williamson
Interactive Training Devloper

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Message: 5
From: "Raymond Camden" <jedimaster at macromedia.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:11:11 -0400
Subject: [thelist] IE6 question, involving IFRAME
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

I had some code that would populate an iframe with a string using JS.
This worked fine in the earlier version of IE, but is now breaking. Can
anyone help?

Iframe code: (note, this is within a TD, if that matters) <iframe src=""
name="emailList" id="emailList" width="100%" height="100%"
marginwidth="0" marginheight="0"></iframe>

JS code:

	function displayList(host) {
		var str = "";
		for(var i = 0; i < HostData[host].length; i++) {
			str+=HostData[host][i]+"<br>";
		}
		emailList.document.open();
		emailList.document.write("<LINK REL='STYLESHEET'
TYPE='text/css' HREF='style.css'><P>"+str+"</P>");
		emailList.document.close();
	}

I've confirmed that str has proper data in it.
=======================================================================
Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia

Email    : jedimaster at macromedia.com
Yahoo IM : morpheus

"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Pete Freitag
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:02 PM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: RE: [thelist] CFMX
>
>
> Yes it is!
>
> It has a lot of impressive new features too, like slick web services
> integration. You will want to check out the press release.
> http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2002/coldfusion_
mx_announce.ht
ml

And I have written up a summary some of the new Features here:
http://www.cfdev.com/mx/

_____________________________________________
Pete Freitag (pfreitag at cfdev.com)
CTO, CFDEV.COM
ColdFusion Developer Resources
http://www.cfdev.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
[mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of cdj
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:49 PM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] CFMX


So is CFMX an upgraded version of CF 5 or is it the infamous CF Neo,
i.e. the rebuilt java version, that has been talked about for the last
year or so?

--
/chris

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ICQ: 157753590
<www.fuzzylizard.com>



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Message: 6
From: "Raymond Camden" <jedimaster at macromedia.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:12:07 -0400
Subject: [thelist] Ack, last post
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

I'm lazy, so I normally just reply to an old post and delete the old
content instead of just typing in the address. That's why my last post
contained text from Pete F's email. Sorry!

=======================================================================
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Yahoo IM : morpheus

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Message: 7
From: "Paul Backhouse" <paul.backhouse at 2cs.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:59:40 +0100
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
function popup(page) {
OpenWin =
this.open(page,'ThisWindow','width=608,height=348,toolbar=no,menubar=no,
loca
tion=no,scrollbars=no,resize=no,status=no');
}
popup('home.asp')
self.close();
//-->
</script>

this will however leave a window open in the background

cheers

paul
-----Original Message-----

Hi all,

I have a requirement to develop a training program using html.  One of
the requirements is that the courseware run in a browser window with
only the toolbar showing.  Question, how do I code my page so that when
you access my webpage that it automatically opens with only the toolbar
showing.  I've looked at window.open in Javascript, but that seems to be
used only for opening a new window.  I need each page to open with only
the toolbar showing.  Is this possible?

TIA

Jim Williamson
Interactive Training Devloper


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Message: 8
From: "Jay Blanchard" <jay.blanchard at niicommunications.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:04:14 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

[snip]
I have a requirement to develop a training program using html.  One of
the requirements is that the courseware run in a browser window with
only the toolbar showing.  Question, how do I code my page so that when
you access my webpage that it automatically opens with only the toolbar
showing.  I've looked at window.open in Javascript, but that seems to be
used only for opening a new window.  I need each page to open with only
the toolbar showing.  Is this possible? [/snip]

Have you considered HTA's? (HTML Applications)

[watch wraps]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/hta/o
verv
iew/htaoverview.asp http://www.jansfreeware.com/articles/ie5hta.html
http://www.webreference.com/js/column39/
http://www.vbwm.com/articles/2002/abarfield/hta01/

or seacrh Google http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=hta+applications

[/watch wraps]

HTH!

Jay



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 01:11:24 +1000
From: "Karen J. Bowen" <karen at miinx.com.au>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: Re: [thelist] [ASP] slow server. What possible causes?
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Nicole P wrote:
> And yes, Karen, I free everything that I set now, at least I think so.

> Some may still be lurking though. Would that create a performance
> degradation over a few hours?
>
> The system reacts very well after a reboot, and starts slowing down
> after an hour or so, and eventually reaches a point that it is
> unusable.

Nicole, if you've got/can get John Kauffman's "Beginning ASP Databases"
(Wrox), check out Chapter 17 - "Performance Testing & Performance
Improvements", which goes over 'performance issues related to ADO,
particularly in regards to Internet ASP applications'.

I hadn't (yet) read this chapter, so just have been going through it in
relation to your question, and it's very informative.  The objects you
are using (Connection, Recordset, etc) are of course all part of ADO.

Some interesting and possibly relevant tidbits:

** "Processor Bottlenecks" are defined as when the CPU usage of your
system is very high but the network card usage is well below capacity.
ADO is a processor-intensive technology & in general dual processors are
recommended for servers running ADO web applications.

** "Processor Throttling" (IIS 5 only) can be used when running multiple
web sites on one computer to prevent a site from "hogging" the processor
& hence slowing/preventing access to other sites.  (But it doesn't go
any further into this here.  I'd expect you could enable it via the IIS
console, although I haven't tried it.)

** "Connection Pooling" (turned on in IIS4 & IIS5 by default) enables an
app to share db connections.  The author follows this with: "Explicitly
destroying the connection in your code is also excellent practice.  This
saves resources by destroying the connection immediately, rather than
waiting for the connection to time out. [...] While explicitly closing
and destroying the connection consumes resources as well, I believe this
process improves performance overall on the server, by freeing up
resources quickly."

** NT Servers have the "Performance Monitor" (find it under Admin.
Tools) which allows you to monitor activity & performance of any number
of objects on the system, plus generate logs and alerts.

** "Indexing" is one _sure_ way to speed up performance.  Index all
fields in the database that will be used in WHERE clauses of SQL
statements.

** Do NOT store ADO objects in Sessions.


A few other possibly relevant articles:
http://www.webdevelopersjournal.com/articles/asp_performance.html
http://www.developersdex.com/asp/default.asp?p=728
http://www.pstruh.cz/tips/listpg_0.htm
http://www.aspin.com/home/tutorial/performa
http://www.15seconds.com/Issue/000608.htm
http://www.iisfaq.com/MemoryLeaks/


Hope this helps.  At the very least, *I've* learned an awful lot! :)

Good luck,
Karen------------
Miinx Design & Development
e :: karen at miinx.com.au
p :: 03 9534 2659
w :: www.miinx.com.au


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Message: 10
Subject: RE: [thelist] [ASP] slow server. What possible causes?
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:11:40 -0500
From: "Scott Dexter" <sgd at ti3.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Are you placing recordsets or db connections in Session variables?

sgd

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicole P [mailto:nicole at parrot.ca]
>
> Thanks Dam for the links, but I couldnt find anything where
> performance degrades over time.
>

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Message: 11
From: David at softv.net
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: RE: [thelist] [ASP] slow server. What possible causes?
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:31:59 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

>>the server slows
>>down to a crawl, and only a reboot can fix it. It degrades slowly over

>>the course of a few hours, until it becomes unusable.

Hi Nicole,

Are you using any session variables or application variables? More
importantly, are you storing any objects in sessions of app vars, such
as a database connection? Are there other websites running on the same
server that may not be optimized?

Dave




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Message: 12
From: "Nicole P" <nicole at parrot.ca>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] [ASP] slow server. What possible causes?
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:17:54 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Nope. Only thing in the session variable is the user ID.

I open and close connections once per page (and yes, I close as many
connections as I open...)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Dexter" <sgd at ti3.com>


> Are you placing recordsets or db connections in Session variables?

> > Thanks Dam for the links, but I couldnt find anything where
> > performance degrades over time.



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:33:03 -0600
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Keith <cache at dowebscentral.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Document.write Issue
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org


>I am trying to write one of my cookies in the body of my document.  For

>The code that searches for the existance of the cookie exists in the
><head> of the page. If the cookie exists, the code in the <head> calls
>a function which I have placed in the body of the page:

If you are writing the contents of the cookie to the body, then test for
the cookie and capture it's contents in the body, not the head. The
cookie capture needs to be in the same script block as the
document.write statement. Just think of the cookie capture as part of
the document.write sequence. You cannot call a function in the body
until after the body has already rendured the code you are calling,
which is too late for doing the document.write in that spot on the page.

<script>
cookies=document.cookie.split(";")
for(i=0;i<cookies.length;++i){
   pair=cookies.split("=")
     if(pair[0].indexOf("myCookieName")!=-1){
       document.write(pair[1])
     }
}
</script>



keith

cache at dowebscentral.com


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Message: 14
From: "Techwatcher" <techwatcher at accesswriters.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
CC: david_kutcher at hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:16:15 -0400
Subject: [thelist] color correction
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

One thing your designer and/or you may have been too bleary-eyed to
remember: Many monitors now offer color-correction (at the hardwear
level), but that's new. In the older days, software correction was
included for PhotoShop & PageMaker as part of their high-end color-
print-preparation package. It's entirely possible the machine on which
you're viewing the different-looking jpg's is using this software within
PhotoShop, which package of course is not part of the code-bloat of the
browser. (-8

Cheers --
Carol Stein
techwatcher at accesswriters.com

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Message: 15
From: "Techwatcher" <techwatcher at accesswriters.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
CC: NanHarbisonSmith at aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:07:18 -0400
Subject: [thelist] cheapest no mysql, more lawyer problems
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I would be really interested in this webhost, except it appears that
the
> cheapest hosting plan does NOT include MySQL. Is this right? Thanks,
> Nan

Cheapest plan no MySQL, I think that's right. I have the next higher
plan, although I'm not planning on using the included online db.
(Personally, I think anyone who stores valuable proprietary data online
must be crazy. But that's me... I store it off-line.)

Cheers --
Carol
techwatcher at onebox.com

Lawyer problems: yeah, threatening to go to court anyway just to recover
for the money they spent on paying lawyers to prepare a case the lawyers
knew couldn't be won is standard procedure. In fact, one REALLY BIG
company practically won its near-monopoly that way, as you may know...
(-8 The problem is, judges used to be lawyers, and if you go in without
one, you lose regardless of law OR evidence. Also, if you live in NYC,
they have NO regard for truth, so take in evidence of EVERY SINGLE
STATEMENT you plan to assert (i.e., it's your domain, you asked listing
companies to alter the listing, etc.).


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Message: 16
From: Feingold Josh S <Josh.S.Feingold at irs.gov>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:01:11 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not
understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Unless you can tweak all of your users browsers, the only solution I
know is that the link that starts the courseware will need to be a
javascript window.open link.  From there you would keep all of your open
pages in that window (or others that are spawned with other window.open
links).

However, I don't know what I don't know.

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Williamson [mailto:lakeridge_jim at hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:56 AM
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Subject: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes


Hi all,

I have a requirement to develop a training program using html.  One of
the requirements is that the courseware run in a browser window with
only the toolbar showing.  Question, how do I code my page so that when
you access my webpage that it automatically opens with only the toolbar
showing.  I've looked at window.open in Javascript, but that seems to be
used only for opening a new window.  I need each page to open with only
the toolbar showing.  Is this possible?

TIA

Jim Williamson
Interactive Training Devloper

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Message: 17
From: "Liam Delahunty" <ldelahunty at britstream.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:56:59 +0100
Subject: [thelist] Virus/Trojan what next...
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Despite running Inoculate it on this work computer and updating the
virus records daily I just ran a scan and discovered:

Scanning file(s)...
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\qxpyhs.ohs - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.  Deleted.
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\dadw.qwc - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.  Deleted.
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\xnjumlse.xdr - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.
Deleted. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\kowtvp.gvs - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.
Deleted. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\eccrqf.vbd - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.
Deleted. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\qbwbdhkv.vus - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.
Deleted. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\lndaywb.bgj - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.
Deleted. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\xpqxh.aos - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.
Deleted. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\rcvv.dpf - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.
Deleted. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\fejumts.pgf - Win32.SubSeven.22.plug trojan.
Deleted.

The scan is still in progress so there may be more...

Anyway, this is a Back Orifice type trojan. I do run Zone Alarm and
reject all requests to access the internet by programmes and stop
outside computers getting in. So, what action do I take next, am I safe
from snooping because of the firewall? Or do I have to change things
like my password-safe key, and  do I need to change my PGP private keys?

Kind regards,
Liam


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Message: 18
From: Rob Smith <rob.smith at thermon.com>
To: "'thelist at lists.evolt.org'" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:38:22 -0500
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

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Jay

Attributes available in window.open in Javascript:

toolbar (hidden)

	Windows			Mac
IE	  yes				yes
NS	  yes				yes

menubar (hidden)

	Windows			Mac
IE	  yes				no (always displays)
NS	  yes				no (always displays)

status bar (hidden)

	Windows			Mac
IE	  yes				yes
NS	  yes				yes

location bar (hidden)

	Windows			Mac
IE	  yes				yes
NS	  yes				yes

scroll bars (hidden)

	Windows			Mac
IE	  yes				yes
NS	  yes				yes

working example of usage with javascript displaying only toolbar (back,
forward etc.)

<html>
<head><title>Window Popup</title>
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
function openwindow() {
var NewWindow;
NewWindow=window.open("","","titlebar=no,menubar=no,toolbar=yes,scrollba
rs=n
o,resizable=yes");
}
</script>
</head>
<body>
<form>
   <input type="button" name="button" value="Pop up HTML Application"
onClick="openwindow()"> </form> </body> </html>

hth,

rob

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Message: 19
From: "Kevin" <lists at irubin.com>
To: "Thelist" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:44:25 -0700
Subject: [thelist] Need Reliable Host!
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Hello,

I would like some recommendations on a RELIABLE hosting company. I will
need MySQL DB, CGI/Perl and about 15 email accounts.

Looking for a plan in the price range of $15-20 per month.

Any comments will be apprciated.

-Kevin
lists at irubin.com


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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:44:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Kate Jenkins <kate at bluemarble.net>
To: The List <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: [thelist] Mac/PC gamma setting differences
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org


<tip type="color display differences between PC and Mac" author="kate
jenkins">

Some web color differences between PC and Mac are the result of
differing gamma settings. Macs by default have gamma correction built in
while PCs do not. This causes images (especially photograpic images)
which look good on a Macintosh monitor to appear too dark on a PC.

A shareware "gamma toggle" utility is available for Macintosh web
developers. It allows for cycling between standard PC and Mac gamma
settings for an instant platform comparison before deployment of the
image. http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=1796&db=mac

</tip>



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Message: 21
From: "Liam Delahunty" <ldelahunty at britstream.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:50:26 +0100
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Jim Williamson wrote:

I have a requirement to develop a training program using html.  One of
the requirements is that the courseware run in a browser window with
only the toolbar showing.  Question, how do I code my page so that when
you access my webpage that it automatically opens with only the toolbar
showing.  I've looked at window.open in Javascript, but that seems to be
used only for opening a new window.  I need each page to open with only
the toolbar showing.  Is this possible?



Hi Jim,

Just dump what you need into this form
http://www.liamdelahunty.com/tips/javascript_open_new_window_form.php
and it'll output the code you need.

kr,
Liam



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Message: 22
From: sasha <sasha at bittersweet2.com>
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:55:48 -0400
Subject: Re: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

Ugh, I wish more people would start using pop-up windows
that degrade gracefully.  I get tired of having to allow pop-ups in
Opera just to view important content.

Christy "sasha" Siepker
http://www.bittersweet2.com

4/30/2002 11:50:26 AM, "Liam Delahunty" <ldelahunty at britstream.com>
wrote:

>Jim Williamson wrote:
>
>I have a requirement to develop a training program
using html.  One of the
>requirements is that the courseware run in a browser
window with only the
>toolbar showing.  Question, how do I code my page so
that when you access my
>webpage that it automatically opens with only the
toolbar showing.  I've
>looked at window.open in Javascript, but that seems to
be used only for
>opening a new window.  I need each page to open with
only the toolbar
>showing.  Is this possible?
>
>
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>Just dump what you need into this form
>http://www.liamdelahunty.com/tips/javascript_open_new_w
indow_form.php
>and it'll output the code you need.
>
>kr,
>Liam
>
>
>--
>For unsubscribe and other options, including
>the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org
>Workers of the Web, evolt !
>




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Message: 23
From: NanHarbisonSmith at aol.com
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:06:46 EDT
Subject: Re: [thelist] Need Reliable Host!
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

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Kevin,
If you are looking for one in the US, I have been very happy with
behosting.com, they have everything you mentioned in your list of
requirements. They always get back to me very promptly when I have a
question. I host about 10 of my client websites there. The cost for what
you want is about $12.50 a month. Nan

In a message dated 4/30/2002 11:39:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lists at irubin.com writes:


> Hello,
>
> I would like some recommendations on a RELIABLE hosting company. I
> will need MySQL DB, CGI/Perl and about 15 email accounts.
>
> Looking for a plan in the price range of $15-20 per month.
>
> Any comments will be apprciated.
>
> -Kevin
> lists at irubin.com
>





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Message: 24
From: "David Kutcher" <david_kutcher at hotmail.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Mac/PC gamma setting differences
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:09:55 -0400
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

In addition to my queries yesterday about Mac/PC color stuff as well as
Mac Photoshop/IE color differences, I'd like to post the email my
designer sent me today after doing some research.

-----------
from John Turner (working on a Mac),
turns out, you really cant control what the user will see. at least not
until gamma information is stored on each image you create. what was
going on was i was in photoshop which was set to 2.2 gamma. but my
monitor was set to 1.8. so when i left photoshop and viewed IE i saw a
fainter image.

the trick is to keep photoshop as is, as well as my monitor at 2.2.
Then, in photoshop there is actually the option to view what your
working on will look like on different platforms. i found that if i work
with the previous mentioned settings i can get a pretty good idea of
what it will look like on a mac when switch my "view" in photoshop. this
is who i will toggle back and forth.

bottom line: you cant have it both ways. either know what people will be
using when on your site, or find a happy medium.


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Message: 25
From: "Josh Nolan" <jnolan at electronicanow.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Need Reliable Host!
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:23:31 -0700
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

the host I have right now is great..

I got a deal for $20 a month

1000 MB of space
unlimited email address
PHP, CGI, mySQL..........
12 gb bandwidth a month
the list goes on...

www.ochosting.com

great for people that live in the California area

-josh
----- Original Message -----
From: <NanHarbisonSmith at aol.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [thelist] Need Reliable Host!


> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Kevin,
> If you are looking for one in the US, I have been very happy with
> behosting.com, they have everything you mentioned in your list of
> requirements. They always get back to me very promptly when I have a
question.
> I host about 10 of my client websites there. The cost for what you
> want is about $12.50 a month. Nan
>
> In a message dated 4/30/2002 11:39:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> lists at irubin.com writes:
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like some recommendations on a RELIABLE hosting company. I
> > will
need
> > MySQL DB, CGI/Perl and about 15 email accounts.
> >
> > Looking for a plan in the price range of $15-20 per month.
> >
> > Any comments will be apprciated.
> >
> > -Kevin
> > lists at irubin.com
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> For unsubscribe and other options, including
> the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org

> Workers of the Web, evolt !
>
>
>



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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:38:13 -0600
To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
From: Keith <cache at dowebscentral.com>
Subject: Re: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

At 08:55 AM Tuesday 4/30/02, Jim wrote:

>I have a requirement to develop a training program using html.  One of
>the requirements is that the courseware run in a browser window with
>only the toolbar showing.  Question, how do I code my page so that when

>you access my webpage that it automatically opens with only the toolbar

>showing.  I've looked at window.open in Javascript, but that seems to
>be used only for opening a new window.  I need each page to open with
>only the toolbar showing.  Is this possible?

Last I looked at security specs, you do not have the right or the
ability to alter which attributes are displayed in the user's original
browser. Those settings are the prerogative of the user, not the
website.  You can specify the attributes only on a new window opened by
javascript because the user has explicitly chosen to do that and can
undo their choice by closing the new window. If you were allowed to
configure the original browser, there would be no way for the user to
undo your choices and they would have to close their browser and reopen
to continue on to another website with the browser of their choice.

FWIW, you probably want the statusbar also showing so the user can see
that a click in your courseware is retrieving something from the server.


keith

cache at dowebscentral.com


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Message: 27
From: "John Handelaar" <genghis at members.evolt.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:41:52 +0100
Subject: [thelist] customlog thing from last night
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org


#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
my $line;
open(FILE, ">>test.log");
$line = <STDIN>;
print FILE $line;
close FILE;

This one closes the pipe at the end of each line
of input, meaning you get a new process wach time
a write event happens, instead of trying to leave
the log open - which (this is a guess) causes
the second write to attempt opening a new
process, see a locked logfile and abort.

Kudos to simon at userfrenzy.com for assistance,
if it works :-)

Bear in mind that on a heavy server this could slow
down your Apache badly, cos it's closing and opening
the file each and every time it sees a \n ...

genghis

------------------------------------------
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T +44 20 7209 4117       M +44 7930 681789
F +44 870 169 7657   E john at userfrenzy.com
------------------------------------------

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org
> [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Morbus Iff
> Sent: 24 April 2002 01:13
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] Apache Web-Serving with OS X, Part #5 Available
>
>
> Hey all. My sixth Apache / OS X / O'Reilly article is now available.
>
>  "Following the first five Apache Web-Serving with Mac OS X [1]
> articles  Kevin Hemenway (aka Morbus Iff) returns with a "put your
> legs up" sixth  tutorial [2]. This time he walks you through the
> various Apache modules  that come with your Mac OS X installation and
> shows you what they can do."
>
> [1] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/ct/49
> [2] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/mac/2002/04/23/apache_six.html
>
> --
> Morbus Iff ( were you a community theatre satan? )
> Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/
> Tech: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 - articles and weblog
> icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
> --
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> the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org

> Workers of the Web, evolt !
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Message: 28
From: "John Handelaar" <genghis at members.evolt.org>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: Woops     was RE: [thelist] customlog thing from last night
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:51:48 +0100
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org


Bugger.

That was supposed to go somewhere else entirely.
Apologies.

<tip>
There's a security hole in Listar, the list manager
software which works very well with Postfix.

Patches, and a name change for the software, are
at http://www.ecartis.org - where doubtless they
won't take kidly to criticisms of their very
stupid new name.
</tip>

------------------------------------------
John Handelaar

T +44 20 7209 4117       M +44 7930 681789
F +44 870 169 7657   E john at userfrenzy.com
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Message: 29
From: "Liam Delahunty" <ldelahunty at britstream.com>
To: <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Subject: RE: RE: [thelist] Setting Window Attributes
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:02:01 +0100
Reply-To: thelist at lists.evolt.org

sasha wrote:
>Ugh, I wish more people would start using pop-up windows
>that degrade gracefully.  I get tired of having to allow pop-ups in
>Opera just to view important content.

Hi,

Is it possible to write a pop-up that would degrade gracefully that
would do what Jim wanted (a browser window with only the toolbar
showing.) ?

In Opera just set windows to open behind. At load pop-ups such as from
http://www.thehungersite.com/ open in the background, where as new
pop-ups from a link open in foreground.

Personally I rarely open new windows using the JavaScript technique
except where it provides additional information to the site's reader
when I don't want them to have to move from a page, such as a pop-up for
"help", or as a currency converter. In those cases a pop-up is wholly
justified. I would seldom recommend taking away a users "furniture" of
familiar icons and tool-bars to view a site the way many designers
insist upon, but in some specific circumstances it is a good solution.

Kind regards,
Liam Delahunty



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