Simon What I think you're asking for is the ability to conditionally load other ASP or HTML pages. ASP includes (which I believe are actually handled by IIS before ASP gets hold of the page) include the file whether or not it is included in the flow or your script execution. This can result in extremely large pages for the ASP processor to work through. About the only solution I know is one I used recently - but it only works in Jscript as far as I know (does VBScript have an equivalent to eval() ? ): Var fso=Server.CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject"); Var st=fso.OpenTextFile(yourpage.html); Eval(st.ReadAll()); st.close(); This allows you to conditionally load other html/asp pages, and also specify the filenames of said pages. The only weird side effects of this approach are: 1) When including an ASP page, the page must not start and end with the usual <% and %> that you are accustomed to. 2) When including a static HTML page, you'll have to prefix the HTML page with %> and <% (alternatively, you could detect the extension of the file being loaded and replace the above eval with eval("%>"+st.ReadAll()+"<%") for HTML pages only...) Cheers Jon -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Simon Hibbard Sent: 09 May 2002 10:29 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: [thelist] frames without <frames> Hi, I have a page in which the content is DB generated and want to load in pages dependent on certain conditions using ASP. The problem is i do not want to use frames and I cannot simply read the files as they are not on the server, and I cannot 'include' the files (html and doc) as the URL to the files need to be dynamic. Isnt is a shame you cant <!--#include"<%=some_file%>--> Should I use IFrames, which i have played with and seemed inconsistent when used in a table cell, or is there a better way of achieving the same effect. thanks, Simon. -- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !