Oh source's of wisdom and knowledge :) I *had* a script bookmarked which allowed the confuddling of PNG Alpha Layers in IE. However, my bookmark list did not survive the quite recent time when my hard drive tried to eat itself. A half on hour on google has not brought home the bacon .. so I turn to the enlightened list :) -- Mark W Limburg mlimburg at users.sourceforge.net Developer, Geeklog http://geeklog.sourceforge.net/