[thelist] Hand Coding (was Dreamweaver Codewriting)

Tom Dell'Aringa pixelmech at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 12 13:20:01 CDT 2002


Sebastian, I gotta say you sound just like me some years ago, because I was making the same
arguments. I'm not saying you have to abandon MM completely or never use it, and I'm not saying
there are not times when you maybe should use it.

But, until you go out into the "unknown" as it were and walk a mile in a hand-coder's shoes, you
aren't speaking from a clear viewpoint. You can't "see" from the hand code side, and since you
don't have that experience, your opinions on one vs. the other are somewhat invalid.

I only say this because I in fact did walk a few miles in your shoes. Its your life, and career so
do what you want, but I think all we are saying is it will be better for YOU personally if you
learn to hand code. You'll be more employable, worth more, you will actually be a programmer (not
a application operator) and you will have more knowledge. These are indisputable facts.

Its easy to take offense at these comments - so please don't. Nobody is saying your work isn't
valid either, because it is.

</soapbox>

Tom


--- Kostal Design|Sebastian Kostal <info at kostaldesign.de> wrote:
> > It's saying it to prospective clients that counts. The reason for writing
> > your own JS functions is not to achieve a sense of pride. It's to cut down
> > on bloated code and page loading times, which in turn can *lead to* a sense
> > of pride.
>
> In the end it probabely comes down to traffic. If you can really write good
> JavaScript functions that save your client 20% traffic this is a good
> achievement and worth the development time if you have massive traffic.
> Other than that it is just not worth the money. If you have written your own
> functions already and don't need to develop them that's good, of course you
> are going to use them. In my case no one would have paid me the extra
> effort. This is not only my unique situation, but will apply to many other
> people's situations. It has to pay for your clients and make sense for them
> to ask for a custom programmed function.
>
>
> >> I sense a little bit too much idealism in your opinion.
> >
> > That's a bad thing? It's the *ideal* for a reason... aiming high is better
> > than missing low.
>
> In my opinion idealism makes people loose track of the whole picture and
> waste resources which could have been spent better somewhere else. If you
> want an ideal solution you are going to chase after it for the rest of your
> life. Idealism can make one fanatic und less objective. There is always
> something you can make better, it's just the question if it's worth doing
> it.
>
> And let's not talk in terms political about idealism, because this just not
> belongs here (Fashism and Kommunism are both examples of idealistic
> principles with their influences on world history).
>
> Speaking of which ‹ aren't we supposed to be working?
>
> I'll keep your arguments in mind.
>
>
> Sebastian
>
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